Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Honore: No embed reporters allowed in recovery operation.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:46 PM
Original message
Honore: No embed reporters allowed in recovery operation.
C'mon, there must be a way to both have respect for the dead and have a reporter there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
1. Oh, no, surely everybody's hero didn't say such a thing?
Shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. He said it several times during the just-concluded press conf. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Methinks the body count is going to be a might low
betcha there will be a lot of "missing victims" and a lot of "midnight burials".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Exactly ---- they don't do civilian body counts in Iraq, either
What a coincidence.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I agree with him I don't think they should be televised either.
If you have ever seen a body that has been in water for 5-10 days, or even just dead in 90+ heat and humidity, you'll understand why I say that!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. I want to know how many people were killed by BushCo.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Would you want to be informed of a loved one's death by seeing them
pull the body out of the house on CNN?

What you don't have a heart?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. That's not why this is being done
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #12
23. OK so why is it. Since you appear to know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. I'm not the only one who "appears to know"----it's a cover-up
I'm sorry that there really aren't any heroes in this horror except ordinary people like the kid who stole the school bus or the guys from Duke.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #1
24. I'll betcha anything it's not his call
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Yeah, sure, it's always somebody else's fault
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:58 PM
Response to Original message
4. How would you feel seeing your home and them pull a body out
on the news?

I don't know. I think I'd wanna know first before seeing them pull a body out of my house.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. They could still have a pool of reporters with no cameras
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #7
25. I would agree to that as long as they weren't allowed to file stories
after the families were notified.

But you know. I don't think they would hold their stories.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #4
13. Good points both (posts #3 and #4). I think it's a hard call.
I guess I just don't want the nation to forget what a horrific tragedy this is. Having a reporter present doesn't necessarily mean having a camera there. Just an independent witness to the events.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
6. He mentioned a web site with photos of the dead
He wished it would be taken down.

He strikes me as a no-nonsense kind of guy with no love for the press. He's old school military and completely professional.

I like and respect him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:01 PM
Response to Original message
11. And no one stood up and said that they weren't hired to be
embeds but their job was as journalists? The press sets itself up to be ridiculed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
14. For those who want to see pictures of the dead
Then you might want to take a look at this website with pictures of the people we've killed in Iraq. If you can handle these images and if you think the survivors of this disaster can handle pictures like this of their loved ones being broadcast on National TV then fine, but bring a very strong stomach with you first.

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album32

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. I don't want to see pictures, I want witnesses, and their written words
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Dupe post
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 02:09 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. That that is a different matter entirely
and needs to be addressed.

Keep in mind that people are going to notice when they can't find grandma or Uncle Joe or their neighbor who lived next door for 30 years. The truth of how many actually died will be very hard to hide when this all shakes out.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. I totally agree with you. Witnessing is the point, not gruseome
pictures.

------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. then tell the loved ones not to look
but i want every GOP voter to look. i want the Clockwork Orange technique used on them till they vomit.

and then i want them shown footage of victim's pets being shot.

censorship of this type is not acceptable. yet the media will roll over again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. How do you propose that they avoid these images
Never look at TV again while they hang out in shelters with nothing else to do?

Get real.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #20
28. i am real
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:13 PM by maxsolomon
we're talking about incredibly long odds of

#1. a person watching the specific channel at the specific moment that it shows a dead relative's body.
#2. that body being recognizable. the MSM is really really good at editing & censoring everything else, why couldn't a digital blur be put over the faces of the dead, or shoot them from an angle that does not identify?
#3. the person being offended by seeing that relative's body, rather than overcome with grief, or relief at finally knowing. it is not a foregone conclusion that they would be angry.


versus

shoving their hypocrisy back in the face of every uncaring, selfish bush voter who'd rather not be reminded of the consequences of their votes over the last 25 years. just like i want dead iraqis, maimed iraqi children, & dead american soldiers on tv. it will turn the public against the administration, and the GOP. just like it did in vietnam.

the truth hurts. i want it to hurt america. not looking doesn't make it any less true. and not looking & approving makes you culpable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:06 PM
Response to Original message
15. I have to say I am really torn on this one...
On the one hand, I would not want to see my loved one's dead body on television or in the papers so, to me that point is valid.

On the other hand, what's to say this move isn't to try and hide the actual number of dead to help protect bush's butt and my trust factor is below nil at this point.

I did watch the press conference with the Vice Admiral and got a sense of a person, finally, with the skills and leadership to actually do the job on the ground in NO but only time will tell if he is a figurehead or a real can-do guy.

I have no doubt this post is as confusing as I am confused, lol.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:11 PM
Response to Original message
21. What General Honore says goes without question.Why do you think the media
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 02:12 PM by oasis
has been building him up?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:20 PM
Response to Original message
29. HONORORE; JUST ANOTHER CORRUPT BASTARD
sorry for shouting but the designated hero is just another piece of shit
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC