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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:23 PM
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Poll: By what Magnitude will the Busheviks suppress the NO dead count?
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 03:24 PM by tom_paine
We all have seen how the Busheviks operate in the realm of Systematic Lying. We have all seen the tremendous lengths they will go to suppress the Iraq Body Count:

Not even counting Dead Iraqis.

Guys killed in combat reclassified as "accidental deaths" if they died from something other than enemy fire (I remember reading long ago how such an "accidental death" resulted when the driver of a Unarmored Humvee plowed into a brick wall after coming under enemy fire...and how could that POSSIBLY be classified as a "combat death"...I mean the guy drove his car into a wall, right?)

And the amazing statistic that NO ONE has ever died from wounds received in combat AFTER they were EVACced.

I'm sure there are other death suppression methods we haven't caught....and of course it all starts with supressing photos of the bodies so you can make up whatever you want later and no one can contradict it.

Our Busheviks, like the Soviets and Nazis before them, utilize these lying suppression strategies in EVERY THEATER of their operations in the War Against the American people.

So we KNOW, now that the Busheviks "have control" of the media and the bodies, that they will do as they ALWAYS do and have ALWAYS done.

They will lie. They will hide the bodies. The only question is by how much?

Here's the Poll:

The Truthful Death Toll will differ from the Lying Bush Tally by...

NOTE: It is key to remember that the Busheviks may even be more daring in their Soviet Lies, since they have gotten away with so much already without opposition, so they may go for a mere 1,000 dead or they may not risk going so low as 2,000 and opt for 4,000...so adjust your answer accordingly in that event.

Option #1 = less than 25% (Bushes report 2000 dead, real number 2500 dead)
Option #2 = 25-50% (Bushes report 2000 dead, real number about 3000 dead)
Option #3 = 50-100% (Bushes report 2000 dead, real number about 4000 dead)
Option #4 = 100-200% (Bushes report 2000 dead, real number about 6000 dead)
Option #5 = 3 to 5 times (Bushes report 2000 dead, real number about 8000-12000 dead)
Option #6 = Greater than 5 times (Bushes report 2000 dead, real number 13,000+)
Option #7 = The Busheviks will report the truthful and Tragic Death Toll in it's entirety
Option #8 = The Busheviks will actually INFLATE the Truthful Death Toll in order to spread fear and terror amongst their enemies, The American people

Why did I pick 2000 dead? Because I believe that is what the Busheviks will try for. It's one which is the minimum required to sucker the Freepers and the Sheep that it's 'true'. It will also be of sufficient size that it will be difficult to dispute unless you have huge resources to get more than 2000 victims' relatives to dispute it.

It wil also be easy to 'disappear the victims' at least as statistics due to the chaos in NO, now under Bushevik Control and the poverty of most of the victims.

So, what is your answer?

And I will be interested to find out the Final Lying Bushevik Body Count is as close to the lie of 2000 that I've laid out here.

Finally, someone needs to start a website like the "New Orleans Victims Register" so there is at least SOME mechanism for the true magnitude of the death toll as compared to the Lying Bushevik Tally.

Because, as it ALWAYS is in nations like Imperial Amerika, Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union, to disappear the victims is to dishonor them, their families, and all of us.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:27 PM
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1. Option #6
I expect there to be 50,000 or more.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:29 PM
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2. Option #6 understate by 5 times or more......
....many will be in the missing numbers and Bush will make little effort to find out what happened to these people. I expect and official count of 2,500 and missing of perhaps 1,500, while the real number total dead and missing may approach 30,000.

Why does George Bush hate blacks, the poor, elderly who need help and the sick and disabled?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:34 PM
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7. Why did Hitler, Pinochet, Stalin, Marcos, Duvalier and the rest hate them?
It is difficult to peer into the mind of a callous monster.

And regular human beings are always left to ask two questions:

1) Why were Hitler/Stalin/Pinochet/Bush/Marcos/Amin like that?

2) How could these monsters fool so many into believing they were Noble and Godly?

I do not believe these questions can ever be adequately answered. Becuase of this, humanity will continue to submit periodically to the Madness of Monsters like Hitler/Stalin/Pinochet/Bush/Marcos/Amin until our species goes extinct.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:44 PM
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16. GW said "I'll send the troops if you answer to the WH"
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:29 PM
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3. Have to go with # 6. n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:29 PM
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4. Honestly, I Just Don't Know, I DO Know The Propoganda Has Already Started
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 03:32 PM by Beetwasher
Though. They put out a story today that it seems, from anecdotes, that the death toll does NOT appear as catastrophic as first thought. Yeah, right.

I have to imagine that there were many, many instances of entire families being wiped out with no one to even claim they are misssing. It's an opportunity too good for Bushco. to pass up by NOT reporting these dead. I figure they will only report the deaths of those people who reported missing and no more.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:34 PM
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6. I heard there are over 117,000 people unaccounted for.
I wonder how they will account for them.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:33 PM
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5. I was uncertain until they started humping the numbers this morning
Now I think a solid 6.

I HOPE for a 7.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:38 PM
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12. Yeah, and I hope Goering will rise from the grave and confess to all
I think both that and Option #7 are equally possible.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:46 PM
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18. yup, but hope springs eternal... so does ivy...
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:34 PM
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8. #6 n/t
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:35 PM
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9. 5 or 6 is a pretty safe bet
They don't want a bigger # than 9/11
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:36 PM
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10. Forgot to answer my own poll -- Option #6
The Busheviks will "go for broke" as part of their Straussian damage Control.

And they will get away with it...AGAIN.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:37 PM
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11. overlook
He just won't count thousands of bodies washed up into the Gulf, because, afterall he's only counting bodies in LA, MS and AL.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:38 PM
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13. Option #5
I prefer to take a wider margin. Somewhere between 5,000 and 15,000.

I think it'll be 2,000 as well. The reason is to make it slightly less than the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake (+/- 3,000) and the 1953 North Sea (+/- 2,500) flood which were comparable disasters as far as number of people affected/scale. In reality the execution was such that the number of casualties is probably several times higher than those disasters.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:43 PM
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14. Check with the focus group
They probably have focus groups trying to figure aout what number works out best for Jr.'s approval rating. I'd guess they need to keep it under 10,000. Under 3000, makes the issue go away since the expectations are so grim.

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:44 PM
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15. To many people involved to distort number of deaths but, have fun. n/t
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:54 PM
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19. I disagree and with an example from American history
Back in the late 70's (78 or 79 I can't remember the exact yr) a blinding, 3 day long blizzard hit the greater Boston area. The National Guard was used to clear the major highways. Many cars were found on route 128. The news media reported that these were empty by in large. However my brother was then in the Guard and was involved in helping clear a portion of that highway. He told me that his squad found many cars with people inside, dead, trapped when the blizzard struck so quickly. In particular he remembered hitting one with the front-end loader he was operating and when his mates investigated they found a family of four dead inside.

I don't remember what the death toll from that storm was, but to this day I do believe that it was low-balled for what ever reason the power that be decided.

With all the talk about Bush not liking Black People, it would only make sense that they would low ball the numbers if for no other reason than to not confirm this thought.

Option 6
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:56 PM
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20. Yep, and there were too many people involved in the '00, '02 & '04
elections for them to get away with cheating.

There were too many people involved in the failures of 9-11 for them to get away with it.

There are too many unemployed currently for the Bushevik to try and DARE say that Unemployment was 4.9%...as good or better than the Age of Clinton.

There were too many people involved in the Medicare Prescription Drug bamboozle to make it possible for the Busheviks to suppress the costs by $200,000,000.

There are just too many people who lost loved ones in Iraq to suppress the Iraq Casualty Counts.

You're right, if all of these things were exposed as completely and thoroughly as they have been, then there's NO WAY they would DARE to cover this up and get away with it.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:45 PM
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17. They can't
even if they try.

Too many people lost loved ones and they will have to be accounted for.

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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:05 PM
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21. going with #6. I'm sure a lot of flesh is being sucked
through the tubes. A couple of days ago it was reported on CNN by a worker there --that disintegration was taking place. Horrible thought but am sure that is true. Those are big tubes the water is rushing through.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:18 PM
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22. They are now saying its less than 10 thousand dead
A BBc World reporter is saying bodies are having orange tags put on them in the streets but arent being taken away.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:20 PM
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23. Oh, I'll bet it's MUCH less than 10,000 :sarcasm:
As someone mentioned above, I am sure Focus Groups are convening as we speak to determine what the Final tally will be.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:25 PM
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24. Please stop propegating the myth of unreported Iraq deaths...
It has been addressed on this forum too many times to count.

You said:
"And the amazing statistic that NO ONE has ever died from wounds received in combat AFTER they were EVACced."

From www.icasualties.org
http://icasualties.org/oif/Dow.aspx

Fatalities after Leaving Iraq
The following is a list of U.S. Fatalities who have died in hospitals in Germany and The United States. Some have claimed that The Department of Defense does not report these deaths, they are obviously mistaken.
Note: these deaths are included in our overall totals.
Date Name Cause Country of Death
08/28/05 Kolath, Obediah J. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Germany
08/10/05 Benson, Michael A. Hostile - hostile fire - car bomb USA
08/05/05 Ball Jr., Terry W. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
08/04/05 Simon, Chad J. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
07/14/05 Hines Jr., Timothy J. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
06/21/05 Milev, Marin Milev Non-hostile - vehicle accident (drowning) Germany
06/13/05 Mattek Jr., John J. Hostile - hostile fire - explosion USA
06/03/05 Mendoza, Antonio Hostile - hostile fire - explosion USA
05/24/05 Collins, Randy D. Hostile - hostile fire - mortar attack USA
05/22/05 Seesan, Aaron N. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Germany
05/11/05 Schmidt III, John T. Hostile - hostile fire - explosion USA
05/10/05 Bordelon, Michael J. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
05/02/05 Little, Tommy S. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
04/12/05 Dickens, Tyler J. Hostile - hostile fire - RPG attack (?) USA
04/09/05 LaWare, Casey M. Non-hostile - building fire Germany
03/04/05 Garceau, Seth K. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Germany
03/03/05 Jones, Michael D. Non-hostile - illness USA
01/04/05 Washington, Bennie J. Hostile - hostile fire - RPG attack USA
12/29/04 Nelson, Craig L. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
12/09/04 Renehan, Kyle J. Hostile - hostile fire - mortar attack Germany
12/01/04 Pena, Javier Obleas-Prado Hostile - hostile fire Germany
11/27/04 Smith, Michael A. Hostile - hostile fire - sniper USA
11/24/04 Nolte, Nicholas S. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
11/23/04 Edinger, Benjamin C. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
11/20/04 Heredia, Joseph J. Hostile - hostile fire Germany
11/20/04 Welke, Joseph T. Hostile - hostile fire Germany
11/19/04 Downey, Michael A. Hostile - hostile fire - sniper USA
11/07/04 McVey, Otie Joseph Non-hostile - illness USA
10/22/04 Gadsden, Jonathan E. Hostile - hostile fire USA
10/13/04 Baker, Ronald W. Hostile - hostile fire - car bomb Germany
10/03/04 Pettaway Jr., James L. Non-hostile - vehicle accident USA
09/30/04 Nolan, Allen Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
09/28/04 Prewitt, Tyler D. Hostile - hostile fire - RPG attack Germany
09/19/04 Adams, Brandon E. Hostile - hostile fire - grenade USA
08/09/04 Houghton, Andrew R. Hostile - hostile fire - RPG attack USA
08/05/04 McCune, Donald R. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Germany
07/21/04 Engel, Mark E. Hostile - hostile fire USA
07/15/04 Mardis Jr., Paul C. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
07/02/04 Martin, Stephen G. Hostile - hostile fire - car bomb USA
06/03/04 Bolding, Todd J. Hostile - hostile fire Germany
05/18/04 Chaney, William D. Non-hostile - illness Germany
05/08/04 Holmes, James J. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Germany
04/22/04 Dunham, Jason L. Hostile - hostile fire USA
04/20/04 Fox, Bradley C. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Germany
03/20/04 Vega, Michael W. Hostile - vehicle accident USA
03/19/04 Matthews, Clint Richard "Bones" Non-hostile - vehicle accident Germany
03/18/04 Sutphin, Ernest Harold Non-hostile - vehicle accident Germany
01/05/04 Frist, Luke P. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
12/02/03 Young, Ryan C. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack USA
11/20/03 Tyrrell, Scott Matthew Non-hostile - ordnance accident USA
11/08/03 Jimenez, Linda C. Non-hostile - accidental fall USA
11/06/03 Fisher, Paul F. Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack) Germany
10/01/03 Ramos, Tamarra J. Non-hostile - unspecified injury USA
09/16/03 Pinkston, Foster Non-hostile - illness USA
09/07/03 Thompson, Jarrett B. Non-hostile - vehicle accident USA
08/17/03 Ivory, Craig S. Non-hostile - illness - heat related Germany
08/14/03 Kirchhoff, David M. Non-hostile - illness - heatstroke Germany
08/06/03 Colunga, Zeferino E. Non-hostile - illness - acute leukemia Germany
07/12/03 Neusche, Joshua M. Non-hostile - illness - pneumonia? Germany
07/08/03 McKinley, Robert L. Non-hostile - illness - heatstroke Germany
07/04/03 Coons, James Curtis Non-hostile - suicide USA
06/18/03 Latham, William T. Hostile - hostile fire USA
06/01/03 Lambert, Jonathan W. Non-hostile - vehicle accident Germany
04/24/03 Jenkins, Troy David Hostile - hostile fire - bomb Germany

There's a post from LynnTheDem which answers the charge of unreported deaths very well, however, with search function off, I'll have to provide it at another time.

Sid
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