Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Beestis clepid chymeres, that han A part Of ech beest

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:46 PM
Original message
Beestis clepid chymeres, that han A part Of ech beest
Beestis clepid chymeres, that han A part Of ech beest, and suche ben not, no but oonly in opynyoun.

'Bible’ by Wyclif (1382), Prologue, page 31

-------

Hmmm...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. WTF?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
2. Umm, what?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. It's in Old English
And it's from the Bible, or at least a translator's prologue.

Maybe Aion will provide us with a translation if we ask nicely. :)

--p!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. I wouldn't even attempt that
But something is definitely wrong in that 'hwit' house.

Philosophy @ Indiana University...and I am no spring chicken.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
4. is it bad I understood that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Is it bad that I didn't? (eom)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. I think it's grand that you do....if you would just
translate "clepid" for me, I think I have it...or most of it....or some of it.... :) .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Clepid=called/named. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
19. Thanks! (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
14. Waiting for the sky taxi.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/05/03/26_taxi.html

Read the whole piece- it short and informative.

"The last wave of Rapture-mania finally abated in the wake of the Progressive revolutions that followed World War I. They reformed labor laws, curbed the excesses of the corporate classes, and spread a social safety net under the feet of the vulnerable. If we want to save a habitable world for our grandchildren, we need to pull the rug out from under Rapture-mania with a new wave of hope and opportunity. We must demonstrate that there is hope in this world, not just in cloud-cuckoo-land. That making this world a better place can be even more satisfying than contemplating the richly-deserved tortures of the sinning class."

"The Rapture-maniacs have a strong hold on political power and are doing their best to make things more hopeless, rather than less so. They can hear the throbbing engines of the Great Sky Taxi loud in their ears, and they're not about to listen to the feeble voices of the ineffectual liberals who couldn't even hold onto the gains we made in the mid-20th century. "

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
5. Weirdest. Post. Ever.


Care to give us some?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #5
15. Ask the Amish
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Amish don't speak Old English, they speak Low German, lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Brilliant!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
6. The beast is a chimera that
has a head from part of each beast, such as has never been seen, but only imagined.

Okay- is this close?

Revelations?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:54 PM
Response to Original message
8. Yes, but a propos of what?
Loose modern translation: "Beasts called chimeras, that are made up of parts of other beasts; they don't exist, though some believe in them."

Now telle unto us the applycacion thereofe...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. If Bushbots are waiting for end-times
then this is a reference from someone-maybe to get us talking...or to remind us?

Depends on why someone posted this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
9. Beasts called Chimaeras...
that have a part of each beast, and do not exist, but only in imagination.

http://www.unifi.it/unifi/surfchem/solid/bardi/chimera/

The Bible is full of fantasy creatures: unicorns, cockatrices, leviathans, behemoths, etc., plus patchwork monsters inhabiting various deleriums such as Daniel, Ezekiel, and the Revelation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Sounds like one of my RPGs..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
16. thanx for post
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:06 PM
Response to Original message
18. I like your website, aion
the once-imagined beestis is realized,

in D.C. is its head
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:10 PM
Response to Original message
21. Holy smokes, shades of Chaucer!!!!!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:27 PM
Response to Original message
23. Bush's Chimeras (or Chimerae or Khimerai)
Chimeras are shape-shifting creatures in ancient literature. Modern use of the word is limited to biology, the offspring of two different organisms who are able to reproduce, though I think even here it is limited to botany -- mules and hinnies are usually not called chimeras.

But Wycliffe is speaking metaphorically, too, borrowing from the Bible. I'm glad Aion posted this, because it follows my own approach to those who "believe in weird things" -- to not scoff or rush to prove them wrong, but to listen closely and defer final judgement.

"Hmmm, what are those poor wretches really experiencing? What manner of being has ursurped the sovereignty of their thoughts?"

It's an interesting insight into the power of spin. Team Bush could be said to be trying to create its own reality, as if reality was nothing more than a flow of information. So Bush plays God, but his results are beasts like the ancient Greek Khimerae -- fearful, deadly monsters that keep a population terrified, ghosts with no tangible existence per se, but built of the material parts of more mundane dangers.

It leads to the thought that Bush may be playing the part of a necromancer who has deluded himself -- and/or his thralls -- into believing he works in the name of Christ.

Maybe.

--p!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 01:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC