Am I the only one nervous?

A lot of DUers are basking in the good times of Bush and his thugs under the intense scrutiny of democrats, and even the media starting to... well do their job!

But am I the only one who is still a little nervous? Bush's approval rating is solid, and he's done dumber stints before (ie. tax cuts, ie fuzzy numbers, etc) and still seems to be popular! x(

I remember the summer of 2001 how excited I was that Bush was being nicely trashed in the media and people on the street. But we all know what happened in September and how the idiot's approval went through the roof (even though he did jack-$h*t).

Is anyone else still nervous that the idiot will once again make a mockery of everything decent and brush this controversy off like so many others before it.

gw sickens me.

Whether Bush gets away with all of this depends on: 1) whether the media has truly begun to do their duty and do real investigative reporting on the Bush deceit not only about Iraq but in other areas; and 2) whether the Dems unify, provide real leadership, and attack, attack, and attack, just as the Repubs did with Clinton and Lewinsky. If the Dems hang on to this issue/question (Bush's dishonesty and deceit) like a pitt bull, this issue will gain real traction over time. They must have the courage to do it.

Do I think the Dems will do this? Unfortunately, no.

No explanation, no nothing, but out of the blue, the SOTU issue is allowed to disappear. We won't know why, it will just happen. But maybe, may-be this won't be the case, AGAIN! We have to wait and see.

The other thing I worry wbout here, is that some sort of 9/11 will be created, real or imaginary, to totally obscure this thing about the lies.

front, viciously, and mercilessly. Then pile it on. Attack holistically on all fronts.

trotted it out today. I was so proud. It was great. I think they smell blood and I don't see them giving up.

It's all so insane since he stole the election and all of what he's gotten away with to not be afraid that the good guys will lose this time too. 9/11 happened on his watch and yet the prevailing wisdom is that security is his strength. :eyes:

We can only hope and keep fighting. You have to admit just hearing any criticism or the words crisis, controversy and scandal connected the the bushies is sure something to celebrate. If this doesn't take him down well then we are one step closer because those taboos no longer exists.

But am slowly becoming more optomistic. Remember, most polls are only taken every week or so, give this scandal about a month to brew and he will be sub 50%.

These are real lies that cost Americans their lives. It wasn't just 12 words, it was the reason that we needed to attack NOW. Chemical and biological weapons are 1% as dangerous as nuclear weapons.

I think that at least Rice and Cheney are toast! Once they fall the rest go down.

I'm becoming more optimistic. Also, I don't think the Dems are going to let this go. Bush has finally given them something they can exploit and the WH's mishandling of the issue is giving them the confidence to keep on going. I like the way people like Carl Levin are dealing with it. This goes to the heart of the Bush presidency more than Enron or anything else ever has.

The DLC can't quite figure out why the cards keep falling in. Have you heard Gepheart's last line? He said that Bush lied, but that he STILL thogught they had a nucker weponds program. The man just needs to give it up.

The DLC is just as discredited as the admin, and its the Welstone Democrats who are taking this to the carpet.

But now that the news has hit the fan. The mediea may be open to other lies. Roomer has it that the 9-11 investigation has got some bombs in it that * can't defuse.

9-11 is the cornerstone to the shole power structure. The administration was built on it. The war on terrism was built on it. If LIHOP should brake, along with the PNAC primer, that will be a scandel to make them wish they were just dealing with Yellow Cake.

It will be Bush Knew 4.0

The ridiculous hedging of Gephardt and others in the face of the statements from the WH cabal in the past week is sickening. Do I fear he will still somehow slide out from under? Yes, and I've fought with many on threads and on PM over the past few days so I won't reiterate it here. I hope this keeps up and I believe there is real damage done that , at the very least, will be cumulative as the next, and the next, and the next thing hits the fan with this crew of pirates.

As to the 9-11 report...I still find it nearly impossible to believe that this half-funded, rushed, (and therefore half-assed) investigation run by handpicked manager will have big "explosive" news in it. I find it hard to believe if it had that it would not have leaked by now. Do you think the WH gave up any documents that would be damning from any agency for whom "national security" could be claimed. I don't

For those who would like to scold me for "negative thinking" let me remind you that my negative thoughts in Texas or even DU aren't going to effect the outcome of these national issues. I don't believe in magical thinking. My efforts to mail letters to editors, talk to those who are unclear on what is going on, emailing newspapers with excerpts like the comments with Kofi Anan and other things I can do in my professional life do matter. Whether they make a difference will remain to be seen. We can only try to do our part as citizens and not abandon the fight even if he does do the usual slide to safety.

hardly solid. He is in a freefall, and it only gets worse.

but I was looking at the various polls and he's coming into about where I would have thought he'd be. The 9/11 spike had to die off and it is.

There is still an uphill battle ahead. But not the Mt Everest that it was 6 months ago.

The Dems are speaking out, nobody is intimidated by Rove anymore. Poor Rove.

So we KNOW its fake.

www.pollingreport.com
The most recent poll has him at 55 percent - and that's with 72 percent of people not even knowing about the Niger lie.

if they drop another 10 pts then I'll concede your superior deduction. I'm looking for a gradual loss of about 5% more then we'll see what happens when the race begins.

Always glad to have another Virginian at DU.
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to totally ensure that this all sticks like glue...

And that is to take to the streets!!!


Please see my thread in Activism about organizing street protests.

Yes, we got burned big time and dismissed as unpatriotic fools the last time, but TODAY we have the ears of Congress and the Media......

If we don't take to the streets...and if this gets blown aside, we only have ourselves to blame.

Why do you think the administration watches the poll numbers?

BECAUSE......the power of the presidency comes from the people. Without it, the prez is toast. It has always been that way, and even the lil emperor can't change that. Even Karl Rove knows that.

So, folks, are we going to take to the streets or just sit in our homes and worry and hope for the best?

I tend not to count my chickens, but it does seem as though Bush is in real trouble. He's been in trouble before (Enron, Harken, "Bush Knew", the environment, piss-poor economy...you get the point), but this one is different. Why? Well, first thing, the consequences of his lies come home in body bags, and in increasing numbers; second, this situation was entirely his and his administration's own doing--no one pressured them into it, they pressured us; and third, no matter who's in office, Dem or puke, the American people do not like to be lied to. It's been the Bushies MO to spin, lie, and harass their way out of trouble in the past, and they've used the same plays from their playbook as before, but this time it didn't work. The consequences of their lies are too big and nobody wants to take their crap anymore. The press is probably sick to death of covering for these guys, and I'm willing to bet there has been many an argument between reporters and editors over this very subject, and I think the reporters have won a few lately. Of course, Rove being Rove, he has a few cards up his sleeve. But in all honesty, it doesn't look good.

I'm afraid all this is happening too soon, that Karl and co. will have too much time to clean it up and sweep it neatly away under the rug. Then again, this issue is pervasive enough to put a real hit on the administration's credibility, and all of the confusion within the ranks ("It was the CIA!" "It was the British!") isn't helping either. And I wonder what would have happened had the drunk driving story come out a little earlier back in 2000. So I guess I think that the jury's out but there's a good chance it will eventually come back in our favor, especially if the pressure stays on.

I won't trust this is going somewhere until I see great big hearings on every channel. Annoying the public because they're missing their soaps. Then I'll know it's going somewhere. Although, as long as the Dems keep at it, it'll still be a wonderful campaign issue. Credibility Gap. The guy is a goofus and a liar (and a sociopath, but I don't think it's PC for Dem candidates to say that about the President).

But I'm still enjoying the moment!

There is usually an ebb & flow to any real battle. right now it looks bad for them, but that doesn't mean it will a few months, or days, from now.

We MUST keep the pressure on these miserable excuses for human beings.

(and welcome to DU, by the way). I guess I've been so discouraged by how many free passes that the entire Bush family has received for DECADES that it's very, very difficult for me now to trust any hint of light at the end of the tunnel. The current flap *seems* to have some legs, but after Dec. 12, 2000, I no longer trust anything or anyone to have common sense. My world turned upside down that day. My sky is not the same color as their sky.

Heck, I can still remember back when GW got the nomination for his party, I was actually HAPPY because I just knew that his glaring unfitness for the job of president, and his horrifying record in Texas, would be blindingly obvious to everyone in America, and that Gore would thrash him soundly. But day after day after day, with no challenges to his arrogance, to his dismal record in Texas, to his total lack of preparation for the job, to his immaturity, to his lack of education, my horror grew and grew. To this day, I still can't believe that he got close enough to steal the presidency. The system totally let me down back in 2000, so it's hard to trust that same system to now root out the black evil that it ushered in.

I'm doing my best to feel good about this, I don't want to be Negative Nelly, but dammit, it's hard.

I'm still in utter disgust on how he was able to "win" (well not even ).

The spinmeisters are flapping their jaws way too much. As soon as some of the rats start jumping ship, I believe his poll numbers will go south.

and sounded like a complete fool every time he opened his mouth, I think the repubs could see how awful it was going to be if he has to answer any questions during the upcoming investigations, and I believe the repubs were ready to grease the skids under him and get McCain or someone else in, and now the dems can really pile on.

It doesn't have to happen fast. We don't even want it to happen fast. He has been mortally wounded by the cracking of his mystical shield of untouchablity. He doesn't have to resign or be impeached. He just has to not be elected in 2004.

Iraq is not going away. The deficit is not going away. 9-11 hasn't even started yet.

Relax. Don't get nervous. He's got nowhere to go but down. Everytime he opens his mouth he takes another step down the ladder.

The only question is: will he fall off the ladder, or will someone push him off, or will he just go quietly in the night?

What we do have to worry about is the sheeple. What will their reaction be to the loss of their sheperd? We've got to be good gaurd dogs and keep them from the wolves of the Republican Party. The very future of Democracy depends on us being good sheperds of the flock. We let a wolf in sheep's clothing get amongst them in 2000. We can't afford to let that happen again.

another bushco staged terror attack...to put the fear back in us and his agenda back on course :scared:

I do not believe these polls. I can't find one person who wants this man re-selected. Maybe in the word "re-selected" we have the answer. Seems easier to fix the polls than win the Presidency of the United States! Keeping them artificially high, but lowering them when it's obvious they should be lowered, or just asking certain people the right questions. Skewing the polls is easy.