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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:01 AM
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Poll: Bush approval at 39 percent
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/10/bush.poll.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush's job approval has dipped below 40 percent for the first time in the AP-Ipsos poll, reflecting widespread doubts about his handling of gasoline prices and the response to Hurricane Katrina.

Nearly four years after Bush's job approval soared into the 80s after the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, Bush was at 39 percent job approval in an AP-Ipsos poll taken this week. That's the lowest since the the poll was started in December 2003.

<snip>

HA!

Your boy is going down, Freeps.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:07 AM
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1. Actually
I am surprised that it is as high as it is. Where does these 38% live, I wonder? I sure haven't met any at work, the grocery store, even at church. This country is horrified and angry.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:16 AM
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4. I agree, but I think these numbers are fantastic
There are some people that are just completely clueless - don't follow politics or news really at all, they just automatically "support the president".

I've read that about 5% of Americans are sociopaths, so there's that.

Figure the rest suffer from a combination of mental disorders or are, forgive my french, just plain idiots.

I've always heard 30-35% is the hardcore base. The radical fundies and neocons that will NOT waver, even if Bush starting eating live babies on TV.

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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:14 AM
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19. I agree with that 30-35% figure
I've always noticed that the polls reflect this. No matter what, you can always count on 30% of the population to support him. I used to think that he'd have to shoot his mother on the Whitehouse lawn for this base to break up, but the baby-eating thing is more apt.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:18 AM
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6. They live in gated communities
and/or attend fundie churches.

These are the people who think Rush Limbaugh is a journalist, that Faux News is really fair and balanced and who probably have an IQ of a rock.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:45 AM
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13. And they think that
Gulianni (sp?) is the greatest hero ever to walk the earth!!
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:43 AM
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12. They live in a bubble?
:shrug:
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:11 PM
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31. I have a feeling he will be at 30% by Christmas
That is my hope anyway.......
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:13 AM
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2. Do you think Emperor Bubble Boy even knows?
#Why won't the Chickenhawk cross the road?#
#Why isn't the Chickenhawk waitin' on the levee?#
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:14 AM
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3. Actually, TRY 38%!!!!!!!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9280375/site/newsweek/site/newsweek/

Yep, 38%!

Tomorrow, I won't be surprised if it's down to 37%! Should be nothing higher than 0%, but there will ALWAYS be some assholes out there no matter how much this turd fukus up...

Lu
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:17 AM
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5. w00t!! nt
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:50 AM
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14. I don't understand how that poll
shows that his approval is down from "46% in December" after the election. Doesn't having only a 46% approval right after you are "elected" seem really suspicious??? Shouldn't the approval have been at least the supposedly "51%" that he won the election by in December??
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:03 AM
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16. Let's go for 25%
I am savoring this... and we have how many more years of this to put up with?
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:20 AM
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7. It will help to divide Shrub and the Repugs
who have to run for reelection in 2006.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:20 AM
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8. As you gloat, remember who owns the voting machines
And remember who the pollsters are, and remember that ShrubCo REALLY messed up BIG this time. The spin is in, and working like the pumps in NO to get rid of the filthy evil that ShrubCo has perpetrated upon America. It will take some time for the spin to work, but look for, by 2006, a big sudden Puke love fest in the media, Pukes winning whatever they want on broken machines, etc.

Until we get those voting machines out of Puke hands and back to impartiality, pukes are never going down.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:22 AM
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9. I know you're right, but low approval numbers make it harder to steal
At least that's what I keep telling myself lest I go insane.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:24 AM
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10. Can you say ES&S and DIEBOLD?!
And they have the damn nerve to go on and on about us WHINING and GET OVER IT! Uh, ok, GET OVER CLINTON COCK! THANK YOU!

Also, WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS?! Why oh why won't they get off their asses and DO SOMETHING about these completely RIGGED elections?! Are they getting payed off or blackmailed by the rethugliKKKons or something?!?!?!?!

Lu
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:41 AM
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11. Very apt analogy. nt/
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:33 PM
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30. Welcome TG!!
And fellow Tallahassean! :hi:
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:55 AM
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15. Yeah, I think you may be right.
I just saw Governor Blanco on MSNBC spouting some of the rePuke spin. She said "their will plenty of time to play the blame game later". Pis*ed me off, I tell ya. NO DEM ANYWHERE should be spouting their spin!! They should be out there telling the truth to the public and exposing this crooked administration for what it really is. Now IS the time NOT LATER!!! Just my opinion.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:04 AM
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17. You're shitting me!
The hell is wrong with her?
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:19 AM
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20. No - I'm not shitting you.
I really heard that. Maybe bu$hco threatened her?? What did bu$h and her talk about that day on AF1 when they were alone?? I think I read somewhere that that happened, didn't I? Or did I hear Nagin say that? I can't remember that detail. Anyway, I'm sick of this crap and totally believe that the public is now ready for all Dems to get some gonads!!
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ModerateLee Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:13 AM
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18. Maybe I just don't understand it right...
I see a lot of posts up here about the polls and approval ratings... Can someone explain their significance politically? I mean, Bush is ALREADY the president--and he's said he doesn't intend to run for any other elected office once his second term is done--so what does it matter WHAT his approval rating is?

What am I not understanding about this?
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:24 AM
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21. Nothing new -
rePukes usually don't understand anything if Ru$h Limpballs isn't pounding the message into their ears. No rePuke think on their own.
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ModerateLee Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:14 AM
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24. Whoa
I don't happen to be a 'repuke'. I asked an honest question I'd like an answer to. If you can't help me out here, perhaps some other poster will be kind enough to do so.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 10:25 AM
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27. Sorry - I didn't mean to offend you.
I just don't trust the majority of rePukes, and with only 25 posts, I just automatically assumed (not a good thing to do). I see noncomformist answered your question quite nicely. Again, I am sorry and hope you accept my apology. Welcome to DU!!
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ModerateLee Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 10:43 AM
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28. Hello...
...and thank you for the welcome. Even if I were a 'repuke', answering the question I asked would only have given you the chance to underline good Democratic thought processes, so there's no harm in that from whichever direction it comes.

I asked the question because I wanted to check out my own thinking on the issue. Plenty of people here have more experience politically than I do and I wanted to check out if I could reason the thing out halfway decently. As it turns out, every reason I could come up with nonconformist echoed, so I know I'm on the right track.

As far as my low number of posts goes, every respected member here with over 1000 posts had as few as I do now. Thus, when you jump on someone, you may never know who you are really chasing away. Give people a chance.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 10:45 AM
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29. You are totally right
and I will remember this lesson. Have a good day.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:19 AM
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25. There are a lot of reasons why it's significant
For one, he could bring down the lot of them. If people are unhappy with Bush, it's fair to say many of them are unhappy with the republican leadership as a whole. The more other republican officials defend him, the worse it reflects on them. As well, when people start opening their eyes to the reality of what a sorry excuse for a president Bush is, they start to see everything more clearly - including how bad republican policies are for America.

As public opinion shifts, the media is more prone to report actual news and ask hard-hitting questions that they seem to refrain from when they think everyone is just in love with the King.

Low popularity numbers also means it's far more likely that there will be actual investigations into this mess. It also means that it's more likely for officials to call for impeachment, and that republicans will start to distance themselves from the Chimp and cause major division and chaos in their party.

Lastly, it's gratifying. There IS something very comforting in knowing that the vast majority of the country sees things for what they are.
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ModerateLee Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:24 AM
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26. Thank you
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freemen2005 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:28 AM
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22. ITS FIXED
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 08:29 AM by freemen2005
they cant show that he only truly has %3, it would be devastating to the world image....but its true

Come on really, who would possibly have confidence in this person? Noone with half a brain thats for sure.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:35 AM
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23. Cooked numbers. Gotta be lower, but pollsters afraid to provoke crazy man
afraid for the sake of the nation of what seeing a 28-33% approval might make Bush try to do.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:25 PM
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32. NEWSWEEK poll suggests President Bush could become Katrina’s next casualty
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 03:26 PM by Sapphire Blue
Eye of the Political Storm
A new NEWSWEEK poll suggests President Bush could become Katrina’s next casualty.


(excerpt)

... But a new NEWSWEEK Poll suggests the post-Katrina political storm may just be rising. And her ultimate casualty could be President George W. Bush.

In Katrina’s wake, the president’s popularity and job-approval ratings have dropped across the board. Only 38 percent of Americans approve of the way Bush is doing his job overall, a record-low for this president in the NEWSWEEK poll. (Fifty-five percent of Americans disapprove of his overall job performance.) And only 28 percent of Americans say they are “satisfied with the way things are going” in the country, down from 36 percent in August and 46 percent in December, after the president’s re-election. This is another record low and two points below the satisfaction level recorded immediately after the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal came to light. Fully two-thirds of Americans are not satisfied with the direction of the country.

More critical to President Bush—and the GOP’s future as the nation’s majority party: most Americans, 52 percent, say they do not trust the president “to make the right decisions during a domestic crisis” (45 percent do). The numbers are exactly the same when the subject is trust of the president to make the right decisions during an international crisis.

<snip>

Reflecting the tarnished view of the administration, only 38 percent of registered voters say they would vote for a Republican for Congress if the Congressional elections were held today, while 50 say they would vote for a Democrat.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9280375/site/newsweek/page/2/


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