Cut it out with the Bush resign fantasy.

Please!

:eyes:

I know we all want him out, but let's not get silly about the way he will leave.

I never even thought of THAT! Now I'm looking at the clock, wondering why he couldn't come on TONIGHT!

in 2006, it is possible.

Now maybe putting his ass in jail is a fantasy but impeaching him and his regime better be a freaking goal for democrats next year.

or impeachment will remain pure fantasy. Congress is impervious to the public will when it comes to impeachment. Remember 1998?

Besides, the thought gets me way too excited.

I'm going to need a new package of Depends if I think about it much more.

we'd all have better luck licking those little stamps all day and
sending off our "winning" prize number to Publishers Clearing house.

burtworm, pissing in wheaties for over 1000 posts:)

yeah, pipedream for sure and putting cheney in charge is a non-change.

i've learned to pick my threads well and ignore the wishful thinking for the most part. doesn't bother me that people get caught up in a dream:)

the only problem i have with it is the bandwidth...

;)

President Cheney?

ARGH!!!

I'm going to be stuck with a whole bunch of "Resign" and "Impeach" t-shirts and buttons!

:headbang:
rocknation

what's the harm in having the rumours out there? Seems to me there's some good in it...more uncertainty, more talk that maybe this guy isn't up to the job.

But as they're incredible, it makes the fantasizers look a little umhinged from reality.

When folks wander off into fantasy land, it allows the other side to characterize DUers as a group that believes Chimpy is about to resign, which not only makes us look foolish, but allows the opposition to characterize the more serious things we have to say as equally foolish. In order for our criticisms regarding the dishonesy and lies promulgated Chimpy and his gang to have maximum impact, we have to be sure to protect our own credibility.

onenote

as what I think. ;)

I like to know I'm dealing with a reason-based community here, if you know what I mean.

Wouldn't mind hearing on AAR or other outlets: "Tonight, internet rumours are circulating that President Bush will resign Thursday over what is widely thought to be a massive failure in his administration in responding to Hurricane Katrina and its devastating aftermath. A Whitehouse spokesman dismissed these speculations as groundless and ridiculous."

Sounds good to me.

The media are only interested in the fantasies of gasbag pundits. Maybe you'd hear it if Novak or Cokie Roberts asked, "Will Bush last beyond Thursday?"

If not now, when? Should Bush resign after he's cut another 100,000 lives short? Spent another trillion dollars we don't have in the Treasury? Fouled more water and air through insufficient oversight of polluting industries?

from his fingers on January 20, 2009. (Unless by some miracle Diebold is unable to prevent a Democratic sweep of Congress in 2006. Or other unforeseen circumstances.)

We can dream, can't we?

give it up.

Besides, he just doesn't care what anyone besides his mommie and Rove thinks.

Certainly doesn't fit with what we know about *'s determination to be (remain?) a dictator.
:shrug:

on anything in the WH he could grab on to. He loves Presidentin' (except the work part).

Bush has done more harm. Could happen.

Instead of advising people to give up the fantasy, encourage them to work towards it.

(Nixon didn't resign until George Bush Sr., as chairman of the RNC asked him to, and that wasn't until they knew he was heading toward impeachment.)

Strive to change things.

Bush is not going to resign on Thursday. Don't delude yourself.

In case you hadn't noticed there's a little "resignation fever" infecting the joint. Some group thinkers have group thought themselves into a specific delusion. This thread is for them.

Think of it as extending the deadline. So some think Thursday? Strive to make it happen, even if it has to happen long after Thursday.

Nixon struggled mightily not to give up the presidency. August of the second year. I wait. :)

Wouldn't you rather have the members of your team grounded in reality, rather than off in dreamland? They who want to be in dreamland stay in dreamland.

If you want Bush out of office before January 2009, better work on getting Dems into both chambers of Congress in 2006. The Repubs are not going to just give over power. They need to get their asses kicked out--and that goes for all Republicans at all levels.

We all act as individuals. When enough individuals act towards a common goal, we accomplish something. DU is not a team. There is a wide variety of politics here.

Back during Watergate time, some people were considered deluded for thinking Nixon would ever resign. Just because something is not within your reach does not mean it is a delusion.

I agree that delusion is not something positive, but I think defining delusion may be subjective.

It was not. It took hard work. "Impeach Nixon" buttons and bumper stickers were fine as far as they went, but by themselves they would never have gotten Nixon to the point of resignation.

I think we probably agree. I doubt you want to argue that wishing Bush will resign on Thursday or any other day is worth anything by itself. And if you do, we'll just have to disagree.

Woodward and Bernstein books, All the President's Men and The Final Days? I never said it was magic, or was accomplished by bumper stickers. It took a lot of people, a lot of time, and a lot of work. It also took the members of Congress hearing from their constituents.

Never give up expressing your views to Congress. It chips away (under the right circumstances).

What.will.it.take. :sigh:

It would really be the worst thing to happen. Because all our steam would be gone. He's the focus of so much and the resign fantasy proves it. Cheney would be president! Oh well, better than Bush-Caligula sure-anybody but Bush! Besides, we all know if he resigned it would be because something worse was in the works. He needs to be brought down with Cheney, with the neo-cons-proven that they are liars and thieves for it to mean anything, anyway. He needs to be brought down for 9/11, for Iraq. For this-this would somehow be giving a pass to those failures that were deliberate. New Orleans is just massive indifference to humanity. Iraq and 9/11 were planned.

And I think in a normal shitty presidency I would be happy for it to be over this..but damn nothing is normal anymore.

Your name says it all. ;)

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He will give up his command. What other choice does he have?

makes us all look like......

LOONS! :D

It's scaring my dog. :scared:

(like the true chickens**t he is and always been...) like cowering away (or just "try" to) before the official indictments are out??

:shrug:

You act as if our psychopath Prez and his henchmen have morals and ethics...

Dumbya thinks he's KING and kings don't resign.

Really!

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I can dream can't I? :( :shrug:

It's just that he probably wants to take as much time as he can to "work hard" at hiding most of it before he gets called up for his trial...

Or maybe he knows Cheneyourself will "Pardon" him (and KKKarl, and all of 'em...), unless the pig-in-chief is indicted too...




:+ :boring: <- (me dreams)

But yes, I agree, it is unlikely... even though it IS desireable.

It would only seem like the status quo were upset.

notion.

;)

of got me down today. I thought we'd been "invaded" but there were some very sincere folks it seems here today thinking Bush had really "claimed" responsibility. :shrug:

This is a matter of expressing free speech and establishing the public mood. Public mood often leads to political action/reaction. More pressure on this regime is a good thing.

So, I'm not stopping. Ever. Until this guy is out.

If you really think that accomplishes something, fine. But give a little thought to who we're talking about here: is someone who was willing to steal his way into office using any means necessary going to kindly resign because the people want him to?

n/t

But I highly doubt that I'll ever see EITHER fantasy come true.

Bush resigning means nothing good. Yeah, the moron is gone, but Cheney is president. Although that may not seem like much of a change, consider this: up until Bush does resign, Cheney at least has to pretend like he isn't in charge. They have an act that they need to keep up.

Imagine if Cheney didn't have to hold back...

than it would be to deal with Cheney images. Cheney and his scud missle. I can't seem to forget that - and its way more information than I wanted to know.