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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:38 PM
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I Vant to FEEL You Up 2 - 2 months ago! Groped Loken w/Maria -on camera!!
British press reports Schwarzenegger’s groping and affair with former child actress
by Jackson Thoreau • Tuesday August 19, 2003 10:19 AM
jacksonthor@justice.com

http://www.mindspace.org/liberation-news-service/archives/000115.html

(scroll down)
<snip>

It’s important to
note that TV cameras actually recorded Robot Man
putting his hand on Terminator 3 co-star Kristanna
Loken’s butt while they waved to the crowds from a
balcony with Maria close by them a mere few weeks ago.
Not even Packwood would be that bold. And Republicans
and some Democrats still think this “family man” is
fit to be governor of California?

<snip>

His Mistress, 16, was child star on LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE!
<snip>
There was another interesting bit about
Schwarzenegger’s alleged affair with Gigi Goyette, who
Leigh says was a former Little House on the Prairie
actress that – did Goyette change her name? I’m not exactly an
expert on that TV series]. In 2001, the National
Enquirer http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/feature.cfm?instanceid=11259]
reported on this affair, naming Goyette. That report
said the couple met when she was 16 and he was 28 and
unmarried, and they had sex. That would be a crime, I
believe, to have sex with an under-aged girl, even in
California. They separated, only to meet again in 1989
and continue the affair for some seven years.



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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:42 PM
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1. And they impeached Clinton for having a CONSENSUAL affair.
Cripes, the hypocrisy of the right wing knows no boundaries.

WHAT WILL WE TELL THE CHILDREN?!?
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Blouson Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:09 PM
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6. Let's face it, Clinton opened the door to this stuff becoming acceptable
If America had not already gone through this type of stuff, I promise you Arnold would be in for a much tougher time. But now the attitude is pretty much 'been there, done that'?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:26 PM
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8. My recollection of Bill Clinton seems to differ from yours
How was Bill Clinton remotely anything like Arnold?
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Blouson Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:36 PM
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9. Well...A host of women came out and said Clinton groped them
Like is happening with Arnold.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:44 PM
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10. Paula Jones is a proven liar, in addition in reguards to Kathleen Willey
Clinton continues to insist that he told the truth in his deposition, in which he denied having any form of sexual relations with Willey. After Willey's TV interview, the White House made public copies of several letters showing that Willey sought Clinton's attention even after their purported encounter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/players/willey.htm
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:19 AM
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15. Yes, and they were all paid by the Arkansas Project. Next.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:55 AM
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18. many who came forward were paid well for their stories.
the Arkansas project and Rupert Murdoch publications paid well for anything. You need to read the account of a former Arkansas Project insider, David Brock.
Gennifer Flowers got $50,000, Paula was given a Mercedes, a job for her and her husband. Of course as soon as Clinton was impeached, then cleared, the GOP took back all the gifts and jobs from Paula and her husband. Oh yeah, Paula also got a free nose job.

Yeah, Clinton was unfaithful, but he was not a predator. That was not his style at all. There is a big difference between consensual sex and rape. Seems like Arnold has had a tough time telling the difference.

Arnold said he will speak more on this after the election. I would want to know beforehand.
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:29 PM
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22. Man, if I had 8 posts to my name and posted something about
Reagan raping a starlet in FreeRepublican I'd be bounced fer shure (double sic).
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:55 PM
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23. He was bounced as quickly as his Atlanta Braves dream team.
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:15 AM
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14. I probably shouldn't say this but....
Your words seem oddly familiar. A person who is brand new to DU posting anti-Clinton remarks on a Democratic board? I don't know for sure but.......
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:28 PM
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21. No, the reich wing made this stuff acceptable
They paid those women and exploited the one thing that was true, a consensual relationship with Monica. If a Presidsent fooling around made it "acceptable" then it has been acceptable all along. Presidents are mortal men, afterall. Of course Jr. likely keeps it in his pants re: the ladies. He'd rather spank the monkey while entertaining delusions of divinity.

Julie
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:48 PM
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2. Who will "Catch the falling flag?"
Remember when Republicans said that when it was Clinton's consensual affair?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:50 PM
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3. Great articel. Should be a must read for every CA voter.
Welcome to DU!

:toast:
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:54 PM
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4. Thanks! Check out my tag line...
Fun to "Cerebralize" and form a global conscience with y'awl.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:03 PM
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5. important question
does arnold have any daughters.....many men on tv have said they wouldn't want him around their daughters....if I were maria...I would watch him very closely...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:21 PM
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7. He has a big heart, he says...
Big hand, also, if all true.

Classic chauvinist-predator.

I tend to believe it all. I want to believe it all.

Until now, I've intensely disliked his body, voice, and attitude.

Now, I intensely dislike the idea that he can convert to a politician-savior.

If you tell us about the details of your meeting(s) with Kenneth Lay, I might listen, Arnold, but only over the phone.


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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 08:55 AM
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13. He's just trying to
prove he's not gay...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:45 PM
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11. Hey wwucha
ignore him

there's nothing logical to debate
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:40 PM
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12. It might be good if Arnold IS elected you know.
All this and Bush supporting him will hurt Bush with women in '04
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:21 AM
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16. As a candidate for Congress...
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 09:21 AM by AWD
....I would like to take this opportunity to state that I would never, EVER feel Kristanna Loken's butt in public.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:55 AM
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17. From Schickelgruber to Serial-groper in two easy generations--
the Schwarzenegger family story.

Arnold despises everything about Hitler -- everything, that is, except Eva Braun and her lush, natural breasts, which he would have preemptively groped, had he ever met her.



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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:03 PM
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19. While singing
Nazi marching songs!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:24 PM
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20. Actually I believe sixteen is the legal age of consent
Not to make it any better for Ah-nold but I believe that is the law. It is in my state anyway.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:53 PM
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24. Yes but in California, 18 is the law, so he did break it. - Years ago...
Under 18 is statutory rape. Here is the CA Penal Code and some other info:

PENAL CODE
SECTION 261-269


261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual
intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the
perpetrator, if the person is a minor.

For the purposes of this section, a "minor" is a person
under the age of 18 years and an "adult" is a person
who is at least 18 years of age.

(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years
older or three years younger than the perpetrator, is
guilty of a misdemeanor.

(c) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is more than three years younger than
the perpetrator is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and
shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one
year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.
(d) Any person over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is under 16 years of age
is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and shall be punished
by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by
imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years.
(e) (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, an
adult who engages in an act of sexual intercourse with a minor in
violation of this section may be liable for civil penalties in the
following amounts:
(A) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor less than two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000).
(B) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).
(C) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least three years younger than the adult is liable
for a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000).
(D) An adult over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under 16 years of age is
liable for a civil penalty not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars
($25,000).
(2) The district attorney may bring actions to recover civil
penalties pursuant to this subdivision. From the amounts collected
for each case, an amount equal to the costs of pursuing the action
shall be deposited with the treasurer of the county in which the
judgment was entered, and the remainder shall be deposited in the
Underage Pregnancy Prevention Fund, which is hereby created in the
State Treasury. Amounts deposited in the Underage Pregnancy
Prevention Fund may be used only for the purpose of preventing
underage pregnancy upon appropriation by the Legislature.



261.6. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289,
in which consent is at issue, "consent" shall be defined to mean
positive cooperation in act or attitude pursuant to an exercise of
free will. The person must act freely and voluntarily and have
knowledge of the nature of the act or transaction involved.
A current or previous dating or marital relationship shall not be
sufficient to constitute consent where consent is at issue in a
prosecution under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289.
Nothing in this section shall affect the admissibility of evidence
or the burden of proof on the issue of consent.



261.7. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289,
in which consent is at issue, evidence that the victim suggested,
requested, or otherwise communicated to the defendant that the
defendant use a condom or other birth control device, without
additional evidence of consent, is not sufficient to constitute
consent.

Updates 04-2001:

From District Attorney (http://www.stanislaus-da.org/statutory_rape.htm)

What is Statutory Rape?
Statutory Rape is unlawful sexual intercourse with someone
under the age of 18.

What is Vertical Prosecution?
Vertical Prosecution means one prosecutor handling the
case from issuance to final disposition. Studies show that
when it comes to crimes of a personal and sexual nature one
attorney handling all aspects of the case, from charging
through sentencing, increases effectiveness in
understanding the dynamics of each particular case and the
needs of each victim.

Do WE PROSECUTE EVERY CASE?
No. We are evaluating each case independently to determine if
criminal charges are appropriate.

WHY SO MUCH ATTENTION TO STATUTORY RAPE?

California has the highest teen birth rate in the U.S.

Every 8 minutes, a teenager in California has a baby.

3 of 4 births to High School girls are fathered by adults.

Men over 25 account for twice as many teen births as boys under 18 years old.

The Average Age difference between the teen victim and the adult defendant in cases filed by the District
Attorney is 7years 9months.

Men over 20 are responsible for 5 times as many births among junior high school girls.

In California almost 70% of teen births are fathered by adult men.

On an average California day 76 teenage girls, 17 & younger, will give birth.

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:42 PM
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25. He hasn't changed -- this is just 65 days ago!
He is a sociopath and thinks himself invulnerable - very dangerous.
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