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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:59 PM
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Rove calls Cindy Sheehan a "clown"


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/09/17/rove-off-the-record-on-ka_n_7513.html

Karl Rove, President Bush's top political advisor and deputy White House chief of staff, spoke at businessman Teddy Forstmann's annual off the record gathering in Aspen, Colorado this weekend. Here is what Rove had to say that the press wasn't allowed to report on.

On Katrina: The only mistake we made with Katrina was not overriding the local government...

On The Anti-War Movement: Cindy Sheehan is a clown. There is no real anti-war movement. No serious politician, with anything to do with anything, would show his face at an anti-war rally...

On Bush's Low Poll Numbers: We have not been good at explaining the success in Iraq. Polls go up and down and don't mean anything...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:00 PM
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1. He Would Not Do That If He Were Standing In Front Of Me
I would drop him like a sack of shit.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:04 PM
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6. He is a sack of shit.
That chickenhawk definitely needs a body guard because I share your hostile feelings towards him as I'm sure many else do.

I won't go into details but if I got ahold of Rove Abu Gahrib would look like a Sunday school picnic after I got through with him.

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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:01 PM
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2. Rove is a bastard...
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:01 PM
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3. I'd much rather spend my time with Sheehan
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 08:02 PM by Charlie Brown
than any of the crooks in this administration. Rove has a lot to answer for.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:03 PM
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4. Except Bush's polls haven't gone up since 2003.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:03 PM
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5. Enough to make one wonder is Rove is a pathological liar or delusional
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:05 PM
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7. Sometimes I really hope there is a hell
so that this bastard can cook in it like fried bacon for all eternity for the pig he is.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:07 PM
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11. hell isn't hot enough for these ghouls
:grr:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:05 PM
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nice, coming from a warmongering bush whoring chickenhawk piece of SHIT
indeed
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:05 PM
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8. "Success in Iraq?"
He's deranged!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:07 PM
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9. What a delusional, elitist, misguided, myopic freak...
...Now I know where Junior gets all of this misinformation.

Is this the kind of bullshit that Junior gets fed 24/7? Polls don't mean anything? Junior's numbers are low because "we have not been good at explaining the success in Iraq?

What success in Iraq?

Junior's polls are down because he's a failure, a liar and because he's being advised by a nimrod like you.

I used to think this man was so smart. He may be an effective bullshit artist--but he's nothing more. He's a con man who lives inside a pseudo reality.

I suppose one can prop up a chimp and win a few rounds, by being led around by a con man. However, this is not a good long-run strategy.

We're seeing now how dismal Rove's games work in the long run. You can only spin webs made out of shit for so long, before people begin to smell something funny.

They're all going down, and it's going to be fun to watch these people free fall. They're so arrogant, and they believe their own lies.

It'll be so enjoyable watching them implode.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:07 PM
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10. Let him among you who does not have a red nose
Spray the first seltzer bottle, Bozo.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:10 PM
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14. Bozo's Daddie needs to shut the - up


Thosse kidney stones are blocking up his brain.

He is just dirt beneath the feet of Cindy.

I had the honor of seeing her speak in Los Angeles last week, she will go down in history as an American Hero.

He will go down as Bozo's Daddie.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:18 PM
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24. Once history has some real time to examine Rove,
He will be the yardstick for how much one is reviled for their life's "work."

"His penchant for indecent lies and smears against his detractors was positively Rovian"
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:41 PM
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32. Party clown Rove can sit on the polls and spin.
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 08:45 PM by BrightKnight
No peace movement, Rove's ass!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:07 PM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:14 PM
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18. His address is a matter of public record...
why was my post deleted?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:08 PM
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13. Rove's staghorns are affecting his brain
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:22 PM
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29. For real?
That horned stone came out of Rove's piss hole?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:11 PM
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15. OMG, this guy IS textbook projection!
He alone will keep psychology grad students busy for decades!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:20 PM
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27. Yep, his mother was a suicide, "father" a cuckold, and ubermensch...
Karl produced a disabled child from his loins. Pretty easy to understand why this pathological fascist has chosen his path. Striking back at the world.
Doesn't make the dirtbag any less loathsome, though.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:13 PM
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16. The existence of Karl Rove
is a tough one for theists to explain.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:14 PM
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17. So I take it he is feeling better?
What an ass.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:19 PM
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26. And in fine form :((
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:15 PM
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19. See ya next saturday KKKarl!
Who will all those people be?
An on slaught of late summer tourists..... 1 million of them?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:15 PM
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20. The only mistake was not overriding local government?
It was a mistake not to override the constitution this time. Damn. They've gotten so good at overriding the constitution this one must have slipped through the cracks.

The fact is that Blanco stood her constitutional ground and stood up for the sovereign state of Louisiana against the federal government as was her right to do.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:17 PM
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21. Rove is the ultimate Party clown.
I do not find his antics amusing.

Cindy Sheehan is is simply a grieving mother with a few reality base questions.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:17 PM
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22. A "clown."
Thanks for elevating the tone of political discourse, Karl. :eyes:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:17 PM
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23. Hey Karl, bet you weren't so brave when that stone clogged your pipes
I hope you grow a few more, only with more edges, you pig faced bastard.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:18 PM
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25. Read Between The Lines...Rove's Scared
On Katrina: The only mistake we made with Katrina was not overriding the local government...


Translation: our base will believe what happened didn't happen...whatcha gonna do, believe me or your lying eyes? This is red meat for the people who would vote for his manchild if he ate a baby on live TV.

Keeping the issue strictly on New Orleans keeps the focus off how screwed up preparations are in other cities as well as the depth of corruption in all Federal Departments as they've become patronage haven for his political cronies. Pay no attention to those people. Pay attention to the Democrats...blame the locals.

On The Anti-War Movement: Cindy Sheehan is a clown. There is no real anti-war movement. No serious politician, with anything to do with anything, would show his face at an anti-war rally...


Yep, no "serious" politician went to Camp Casey cause they saw how badly Karl was handling this thing. There wasn't the need for a high profile Democrat to show up to bring the cameras...they were already there. Also, with the corporate media being in attendence at this pronouncement (note the list of those present) it was Rove chastisizing the corporate media for giving this story any play at all.

He's playing the typical repugnican game of tear down the opponent to make yourself look bigger and your friends feel they're doing the right thing by agreeing with you.

This is preventive work as he knows the unpopularity of the war and the demonstration coming up in Washington aren't going to be the last. He is lowering the expectations so the networks avoid covering the protests and continue to portray them as "anti-boooosh" or "un-American".

Call this a lot of wishful thinking, but if there wasn't an anti-war movement, Karl, then what were all those folks camped out at your doorstep while your manchild was on vacation? Who kept you cooped up in that chicken ranch afraid to come out. Then after you did escape, how you went to Idaho and Arizona and this military base and that corporate headquarters to hide from that "clown".

On Bush's Low Poll Numbers: We have not been good at explaining the success in Iraq. Polls go up and down and don't mean anything...


Translation: Keep polling until you find one with the numbers Rove likes. This again is chastisizing the corporate media that it's their fault they're not shilling the regime's "Iraq is progress line". He want this constitutional circus and vote not to be covered as a cause of violence and further problems in the country, but as some triumph for this regime. He want the TV flooded with people with purple fingers and dancing in the streets.

Now I'd be curiosu what he would consider the "success" in Iraq that needs explaining.

BTW...here's the list of those who attended this "closed circuit" meeting:

In attendance at the conference, among others were: Harvey Weinstein, Brad Grey, Michael Eisner, Les Moonves, Tom Freston, Tom Friedman, Bob Novak, Barry Diller, Martha Stewart, Margaret Carlson, Alan Greenspan, Andrea Mitchell, Norman Pearlstein and Walter Isaacson.

Hit tip to the Huffington Post to have the stones to put this stuff out.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:22 PM
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30. Whoever tattled no doubt remembers what happened to Eason Jordan
when a conservative blabbed on him for questioning the US military's seriousness about preventing deaths of journalists in Iraq at an off-the-record meeting in Davos.

Turnabout is fair play. (Of course Rove's head is safe for the time being.)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:21 PM
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28. He is as loathesome a person as ever has existed...
What a foul, ugly beast he is!

:evilfrown:
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:32 PM
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31. I really hate him.
"There is no real anti-war movement. No serious politician, with anything to do with anything, would show his face at an anti-war rally..."

Well, Karl, you miserable son of a bitch, we'll see about that next week. You are right that no politician will be there. Just the American people, some of whom have been elected to office, holding you and the real clowns accountable.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:00 PM
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33. Hitler: "I am in complete and utter control
of this bunker."
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:02 PM
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34. "There is no real anti-war movement."
Can we please replace his brain with a gerbil?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:07 PM
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35. The Angry Reicht
Theyre disintegrating before our eyes. Their Fuerher has no clothes. Read Frank Richs editorial in the Times. Its over . No more magic left in the Turd Blossom. Hes no more than smelly shit now.

.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:08 PM
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36. Aren't these vampires just warm and fuzzy all over?
Why don't they just publically spit on us? It couldn't show any more contempt to the ordinary American than what they have shown every time every one of them opens their mouth.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:14 PM
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37. I've got a spoiler for ROve
from Triumph the Comic Insult dog (as said to geeks at a Star Wars new movie line)--

"YOu want a spoiler, here's a spoiler for you -- You will Die ALONE."

ANd then it's Forever in Hell, where Satan discovers YOU have a "creamy" center..
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:18 PM
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38. "There is no real anti-war movement." ??
Well lets all show him that he is dead wrong on September 24th in DC!

Lookout Rove, like it or not here we come!
We will make you eat your words!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:09 PM
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39. And I'm sure a few people in that room suddenly "saw the world as
clear as a bell".

Used to be "Every time you hear a bell an angel got her wings".

Every time you hear of a frenzy (CBC getting harrasing calls in week two of Katrina aftermath - Huffington being stalked by people at Sierra Club meeting - etc.) some sociopath has tried to get control by passing on his "feelings" to his minions who then reflect back the only reality he can stand - the one where he is all white light and good and his enemies are diminished and his "Greek Chorus" of patsies reflect back to him the insecurity he is feeling - so he feels whole.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:12 PM
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40. And I'm sure a few people in that room suddenly
"saw the world as clear as a bell".

Used to be "Every time you hear a bell an angel got her wings".

Every time you hear of a frenzy (CBC getting harrasing calls in week two of Katrina aftermath - Huffington being stalked by people at Sierra Club meeting - etc.) some sociopath has tried to get control by passing on his "feelings" to his minions who then reflect back the only reality he can stand - the one where he is all white light and good and his enemies are diminished and his "Greek Chorus" of patsies reflect back to him the insecurity he is feeling - so he feels whole
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:26 PM
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41. Sure, that's why they holed up in the pig farm and only ventured out
to see the National Guard and VFW. Right, I think we know who the clowns are.

Also, who is stopping them from getting the good message out about Iraq? Me & you?
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