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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:05 PM
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Cindy Sheehan rally members arrested? (2 reports!)
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 03:42 PM by The Witch
Can anyone confirm this report from Kos?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/19/154239/638

:cry:

EDIT: 2nd report

http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2005/09/57261.html

EDIT: This just in from a Kos poster:

CINDY not arrested. camp casey ny organizer ZOOL a (none / 0)

just went down there and talked to a few people who are still there. No one connected to cindy is there atm but the several people I talked to all say cindys people grabbed her as the police moved in and shuffled her off.

she spoke for 2 minutes and exactly as she was finishing a group of police who had been waiting behind her moved in and grabbed the events organizer, a guy called Zool(sp?)

He yelled 'I'm being arrested, I'm being arrested'.
Cindy stepped or was moved aside by people travelling with her and quickly taked away from Union square BY HER OWN PEOPLE.

Again I have no names but this is the recollecion of several people now at the camp casey tent in Union Square.

One woman said Cindy has another speaking engangement tonight and that seems to be moving forward as planned.

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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:09 PM
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1. Kick
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:10 PM
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2. kick, damnit!
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:11 PM
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3. this will result in more attention being paid to the cause by MSM
and the more she is attacked the more we will become outspokend and th more MSM will have to listen so they can keep up with the ratings.

I just hope she is OK, if this is the case.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:12 PM
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4. We live in a police state if this is true.
:kick:
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political_invader Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:20 PM
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11. The time to REVOLT is coming nearer.
To see These KGB tactics being used in our everyday life is absurd. If "We the People" do not speak out now it is only going to get worse.:grr:
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:30 PM
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20. Keep it peaceful.
There is nothing some people would like more than an excuse to bash heads and treat protestors as dangerous hoodlums. Give them violence, and they will pre-emptively shut down future protests.

Don't provide them with the excuse.
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political_invader Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:47 PM
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30. I completely agree with you
However I am not sure how much more this country can take.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:14 PM
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5. Reportedly, Cindy herself not arrested but rally broken up
The New York City Police Department forcibly broke up this afternoon's rally for Cindy Sheehan, moving in as Cindy was speaking at about 3 p.m. in Union Square. The rally had been underway for about an hour, and was about to conclude as Cindy spoke following several other speakers, including a few who are traveling with her on her caravan.

As Cindy was speaking, a large platoon of police massed behind from the interior of the park, then formed a circle behind her, the speakers' area and a few dozen people who were deployed in an arc behind her. Overall, about 200 people were in attendance, with the crowd steadily increasing in size as the rally progressed. As the police formed their arc just behind, the men and women immediately behind Cindy linked arms. A captain made a cutting motion at his throat, signalling he wanted no more free speech. He waited about 30 seconds, then the police moved in. They didn't dare arrest Cindy, but they immediately moved in and grabbed zool, the event's organizer and one of the main organizers of Camp Casey-NYC, pulling him away and arresting him. I do not believe anyone else was arrested; at least I didn't see any other arrests. I was nearby, and there was no hesitation on the part of the police in specifically targetting zool.

The police also took the microphone and sound system. The crowd shouted "Shame! Shame!" at the police and asked what they were so afrraid of, but made no response. There was a moderate press presence, even a bit of corporate media there, although the only television crew covering the rally was RTV from Russia.

No warning of any kind was given, and this was a permitted rally. Other than the captain making his cut motion, 30 seconds before forcibly breaking up the rally, there was no warning, verbal or in any other fashion. The police had massed perhaps three or four minutes before moving in. Until then, the rally had gone smoothly, starting just after 2 p.m. as scheduled. Cindy and the rest of the caravan arrived sometime after 2:30; the rest of the rally was comprised of speakers from the caravan. Many groups were in attendence besides Camp Casey-NYC, including Military Families Speak Out, Gold Star Families for Peace, the Troops Out Now Coalition, the No Police State Coalition and the Green Party, among others.

http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2005/09/57261.html
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:49 PM
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40. Kick Help Sen. Leahy and other true Democrats to Block Roberts
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:14 PM
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6. I'm trying to find out.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:15 PM
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7. Thanks Will
& everyone
:grouphug:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:16 PM
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8. kick!
This is important
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:17 PM
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9. Even if she were arrested, no biggie...
If it was simply a matter of permits, she'd be RORed in a matter of hours. No worries. If you're involved in the antiwar movement for long, you will eventually be arrested. Especially if you're someone like her. It's just intimidation, nothing more.
Sincerely,
A man with a long rap sheet filled with bogus charges -- and, admittedly, a couple legit ones :evilgrin:
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barenakedbiker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:25 PM
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14. Ever been arrested?
Have you ever been arrested?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:29 PM
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17. As stated in my previous post, yes --
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 03:42 PM by SteppingRazor
I've been arrested six times, actually.
Charged five times -- twice for trespassing, once for inhibiting, once for assault, and once for -- ahem -- DUI
Assault charge was dropped, pled out the other three protest-related charges.
Nolo contendre to the DUI.

On edit: Why do you ask? I don't think it's really hypocritical to comment on arrest procedure if you haven't been arrested. I think anyone who knows something about the process has every right to comment, not just those who have been in the system.
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barenakedbiker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:40 PM
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23. Join The Club
Welcome to the Amerika Police State....aka Nazi Republic of America (NRA)
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:18 PM
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10. Kick
Hope someone is there with bail money.

They won't stop until they have killed several of us. I have no doubt of that anymore.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:20 PM
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12. KICK. nt.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:23 PM
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13. This raises the level
of emotion for the march on the 24th....

The anti-war movement will (rightfully ) be inflamed by this and the authorities will be on edge...

It's getting to be more like 1968 everyday.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:27 PM
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15. if this report is entirely true then what you say is true


it does seem to be coming all right
i dont know what will happen but they are setting this thing UP to happen all over again
and arent we (dc) still under state of emergency

come this weekend we shall see just what direction bush et al want this to go
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:27 PM
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16. I never thought New York would turn into a Chicago. eom
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:38 PM
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21. No. They only raised THEIR level.
If they become violent, but the protestors do not, then the contrast only becomes clearer. If they are determined to act as monsters, then they defeat themselves.

However, if the Sept 24th protests can be seen as both massive AND peaceful, you win.

So show up en masse. Keep your cool. That's your winning move.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:48 PM
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32. You're right, of course
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 03:51 PM by ewagner
But in my experience, there were always a few "hotheads" that you had to keep under control....

Passions are rising.

that's always dangerous.

on edit: see post #27...that's my point....
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:46 PM
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42. Just watch out for planted hotheads
I wouldnt put it past Rove to plant a few hotheads in there to try to get people riled up and violent.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:51 PM
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41. Excelent point-
thank you.
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:27 PM
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39. Deja Vu
I just hope it isn't a set-up to encourage on edge reactions from everyone.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:30 PM
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18. On what basis could the police do this when this was a permitted,...
,...rally? :shrug:

This makes me feel sick!!!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:40 PM
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25. I believe that permitting details are the issue.
one of the reports suggests some sort of a sound system was outside the limits of the permit.
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barenakedbiker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:30 PM
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19. Other arrests
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:38 PM
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22. "Cindy WAS in a free speech zone - The United States of America"
Awesome statement.
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barenakedbiker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:43 PM
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27. Fuck that shit!
To the cops, the Bill of Rights aint worth shit...no better than toilet paper. I have totally lost faith in what USA is all about. Warning: Keep squeezing the First Amendment out of people. And, they will resort to the Second Amendment.

The Founding Fathers: Quite the visionaries, eh?
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:40 PM
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24. :groan:
my first post on the greatest page and i have no confirmation it's actually true... there goes my reputation around here :grin: thanks for the interest. i'm watching the wires as best i can.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:42 PM
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26. I guess Mike Bloomberg really doesn't want to be reelected after all
Still using the same tactics that were used last year during the GOP convention. Was the crowd arrested too?
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barenakedbiker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:46 PM
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29. Hell, He'll win in a landslide!
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:48 PM
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31. Not with these tactics. Ferrer was handed a big campaign issue
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barenakedbiker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:53 PM
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34. Awesome!
I am so sick of the crackdowns on Critical Mass bike rides. Just be glad no one has figured out how to pack the bicycle tubes with high-e.

http://www.stillweride.org/archives/critical_mass/index.html
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:01 PM
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37. Ferrer can make a comeback after his stupid Amadou Diallo remark
about the cops not having committed a crime. Well, arresting Cindy may not be a criminal act, but it is another sign of NYPD's being out of control regarding peaceful assemblies with permits. Yes, perhaps some regulation or another was violated in a minor way, but talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water or not seeing the forest for the trees.

This is like arresting that 9-year-old girl in the DC Metro for eating a french fry. What a fiasco!
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:52 PM
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33. Call NYC line to protest
If you are in NY, you can call 311, Bloomberg's 'city services' line to register you protest, I think. (that's a three, NOT a nine)
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barenakedbiker Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:56 PM
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35. Protest Illegal NYPD Arrests
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:43 PM
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28. I have updated main post!!!!!
not sure what to do now... augh
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:59 PM
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36. kick n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:02 PM
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38. kick
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