I just have to vent about this moron on another forumn

Okay this is on the Queensryche's forumn of all places.

This guy outright calls * a HERO and truly without a doubt believes that freedom is spreading in Iraq and that Bush should go down as the greatest president of all time.

Judging by his pic you can tell he is a 30 something year old who still acts like the rich frat boy he used to be.

So anyways this is the last thing I said to him

The main reason why I personally opposed the Iraq War was because I felt and still feel that we just removed a Stalinist Dictator in favor for a nation that is now rife with civil war between the Shiites and Sunnis and regardless of who wins Iraq will become just another Saudia Arabia and no doubt be a nation that breeds terrorists.

Now you're complaining about Iran imposing already existing Islamic law which they have imposed on women for decades now with Taliban like rule.

Before we go back to Iraq you might want to read about the installment of The Shah in Iran you know get a little perspective as to why maybe so many Muslim extremists run wild there to this day.

Just what do you think Iraq with its new leaders favoring Sharia Law and the fact that the population as a whole whether they are Sunni or Shiites are going to keep with Saddam's anti Islamic fundamentalist stance?

In other words why the surprise at a long standing tradition of Iran's filthy and disgusting ways of governance while at the same time you cheer the "hero" Bush while he just went and helped create yet another nation that will without a doubt create the same disturbing government ruled by Islamic theocracy the same kind used in neighboring nations?

Before you respond think now you have to come up with a way to explain as to how all of a sudden the people of Iraq who make up the massive majority that is religious Sunnis and Shiites are going to just suddenly either disappear or magically create a Constitution that reads like our own despite the fact that history has proven that you cannot create a freedom friendly democracy out of a nation that never had created one itself.

His response:


Noah..

actually the answer is quite clear...

It will not be in our lifetime....( thats the answer)

all people want nd freedom.. but generations of inbred hate and fundemetal religious oppression by any Muslim tribe will not happen in even 20 years.. but in maybe in 100 years.



When I deal with this level of stupidity my head just wants to explode and I just walk away. What more can be said??

Ohhh okay so we just sprinkle some freedom dust around and eventually because it is ingrained in everyone's mind to embrace freedom everything will just magically work itself out.

I don't know how to explain to flat earthers like this moran that the fact is when you've been raised in a world of extremist belief you are not going to change pure and simple.

When I say extremist belief I mean that since you could walk you had a rifle shoved into your arms and you were taught to hate for the next 20 years anything and everything that didn't fit the ideaology that you were force fed.

The same goes for cultures such as Iraq's which have known only warfare and iron rule since inception.


This is why I just cannot fathom how these types can actually believe the bullshit they spew it is just beyond me how these people actually manage to hold jobs or even remember to breathe.

**PS if you're a DU lurker and you're reading this and you think this is my way of coping out of further debating with you, I've already owned you but you're too stupid to understand that.

I would post this on the Ryche forumn but I cannot insult you from there; but here I can since my insults are directed to someone who is not a member of this forumn:

Go back to your fantasy land where you sit in your comfy chair and take shots at mothers of vets and people who are actually trying to make a difference.

You are self delusional little tool who contributes NOTHING to American society and I don't give a shit if you are ten years older than me.

You're a little punk who is a coward who picks fights with pacifist hippies and mothers opposed to war.

If you tried to pick a fight with me I'd laugh and tell you that you're not even worth my time, that first you should grow a pair and put your money where your mouth is and enslist and fight for your hero.

One last note: A hero to me is defined as someone who sacrifices something prescious to them for the greater good of others.

George W Bush has done exactly the opposite of that.

Most of these pricks in their 30s are products of the Me-Generation 1980s. They listen to the music, but do not get the music.

Metal, Rock, Rap are products of rebellion and RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!!

Also, don't knock Frat Boys. I is one. Don't lump my Fraternity, and the Men in my chapter with lumps of shit like that. All of us were at Michael Moore when he was at UA last year.

Good luck, dude. I'll be on campus sometime tomorrow.

Keep up the Good fight against bad goofballs!!!

Alright, and you expected rational/ reasoned thought on there? For all you know, chances are the person is a bush hater gaming/baiting you for the pure fuck of it.

and this guy had been spouting right wing bullshit long before I showed up...

For what my opinion is worth, I wouldn't bother with that "fan", it's a waste of time.

I know your stuff, and it is/ would be a horrible mismatch of wits, if you know what I mean:-)

That's why I am no longer replying to anything else that scumpuppet has to say.

By the way in case you are not FULLY familiar with Queensryche here is a great pic of them



:evilgrin:

Must be the hair or something.
Kings,Kingsryche Queens, Queensryche, rush, mahogany rush, rushryche, spinal tapryche it's all the same (and shitty sounding) to me.

It's a nice pic anyway. :rofl:

is meant as a joke and that you know that this group isn't QR?

:crazy:

the devil grin was supposed to indicate that the pic was a joke ;)

Ergo there is a:
Santa Claus;
Easter Bunny;
Tooth Fairy;
An "Angel" who protects you;
Prince Charming;
Sleeping Beauty inside every woman;
and Democracy will just naturally happen in Iraq in a hundred or so years.

Dammit I really REALLY REALLY wanted an Xbox 360 for Christmas this year!!!

You've ruined the holidays for me :cry:

Sentence #2 - "Bush should go down" - just as he is doing in the polls.

If he is such a staunch freedom is on the march kind of guy, why isn't he there putting his body where Bush's mouth is?

He's just a pissant who refuses to step up just like everyone who calls themself a proud republican today he's piece of shit coward.

I used to until DeGarmo left and Tate's voice went to hell, but that's another topic.

Back to Mr. Oblivious

1. They do not have freedom. We have not given them freedom we have given them occupation and corporatization which is essentially just another form of servitude but with much cooler advertising.

2. Why would a fascist Neo-con be listening to QR anyway? Has he ever listened to the lyrics?

Seven years of power and corporation fraud
The rich control the government, the media, the law
To make some kind of difference then everyone must know
Eradicate the fascists - revolution will grow

The system we learn says we're equal under law
But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
Let's tip the power balance and tear down their crown
Educate the masses, We'll burn the White House down
-Speak

and then there's

Religion and sex are powerplays
Manipulate the people for the money they pay
Selling skin, selling God
The numbers look the same on their credit cards
Politicians say no to drugs
While we pay for wars in South America

Fighting fire with empty words
While the banks get fat
And the poor stay poor
And the rich get rich
And the cops get paid
To look away
As the one percent rules America

- Spreading the disease


3. So he first asserts that Scrub is the greatest ever but then says we'll never have evidence of this said greatness in our lifetimes? *In church my best lady voice* How con-veeenient! My father fought in the last straight up war this country was in, WWII. He volunteered along with all 5 of his brothers. He didn't sit at home in a comfy chair and write letters about how great an idea the war was, he put his life on the line and got to it. He paid DEARLY for it for the rest of his life too and so did our family, but you know what? He did live to see a rebuilt Japan and Germany - So the notion that we could never hope to know and see evidence of the massive failure or highly unlikely success of George Dumbya Bush's misguided Pax-Americana, new-Rome grab for oil is just laughable. It's bad now and only going to get worse. It's what happens when very small people gain great power.

4. Has anyone asked this ass-clown where the weapons of mass destruction are? As a tax payer it's my money being spent on this war! I demand we build a museum to house these masses of WMD that we were saving ourselves and the world from. I PAID FOR THEM !!!! Where are my WMD's?

I've never been on the QR forum. Is this on the offical QR website, or a fan based site? If you could give a URL, I'll go waste some time on the little turd.

probably since the early 90's and of course I went back to check their stuff out from the 80's namely Operation Mindcrime.

I love seeing the shock of my elders when I tell them I dig the greats of rock n roll from Rush, to QR to my all time favorite Dream Theater. I take it as a great compliment when someone acknowledges that not all of us who are young uns are dopes with no care or sense in the world.

Anyways the guy has claimed in previous posts that he just chooses to appreciate the music. Believe me I cannot understand the fact that aside from him there are about 7 other wingnuts who are bushbots but yet are members of the Queensryche fanclub.

Which brings me to why I didn't post a link; it's the official Queensryche Fan Club forumn meaning you have to join up and pay the fees (which are CHEAP considering what you get especially if you're a big fan of The Ryche)

I like your style m'man you got moxie in case you're interested in joining up and firing a few shots at this dope here's a link to the QR fanclub site: http://www.queensryche.com/

divorced mother of an infant holding down two jobs and trying LIKE HELL to go to college. Every door I knocked at slammed in my face.

Nothing shows you the inherent inequality of this country better than being hungry for an education, a chance - and being asked to leave because you simply do not have the means. You ARE lesser than.

I found in QR something way beyond empty technical wizardry. I found outrage that I myself owned, I found social consciousness that was admirable. I found intelligence and poetry, I found classical sensitivity and power.

I found Democrats :evilgrin:

I think I will sign up, kick this pud around for a while.

I won't even have to tell you who specifically this guy is even in the sea of freepers that resides there......you'll know ;)

"I used to until DeGarmo left and Tate's voice went to hell, but that's another topic."

I have to disagree with you on this. I saw them in concert earlier this year and the singer's voice was in fine form! He still had the range and was hitting the high notes as well as in the 80s. I am usually disappointed during concerts because without all the studio instruments, many singers sound merely okay. The Queensryche concert was an exception.

if you do it well, it has value - even unseen.

Maye he'll et it when V. II is released next year.

Jay