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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:02 AM
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Do we really need the South in order to win in 2008?
Becuase if we do, we're fucked... The south is never going to vote democratic.. The republicans have the south locked up completely!

Does anyone have any figures and or strategies to win without the South?
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:10 AM
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1. No South = No White House
North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Texas have 140 electoral votes between them. That's HALF of the total required to win!

In fact, I have to point out that the last Democrat to win the Presidency who WASN'T southern was John F Kennedy. Every Democratic President since...including Al Gore...hailed from a southern state. Every Democratic candidate from a northern or western state lost by wide margins.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:12 AM
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2. How do states with so many black people go GOP?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:18 AM
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3. We need a 2 or 3 southern states to win
Louisiana and Arkansas can possibly swing to our column if we work hard. Georgia and Florida are more of long shots, but they should be in our strategy.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:19 AM
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4. No, The Dems Can Have A Western Strategy And Win W/Out The South
n/t
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:32 AM
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5. No, no, no!
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 11:33 AM by Raiden
Although it would be nice to pick up some Southern States, it is not essential to win the White House. Kerry would have won the White House with all the states he had if he had just carried Ohio (which he did--don't let Blackwell and Diebold fool you). The Southern States, although they look bigger on a map, have roughly the same amount of EV's that the NE has, so it all evens out.
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