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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:55 PM
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*Graphic* This Shit Would Not Be Happening In Miami! Pick Up The Bodies!
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 07:32 PM by leftchick
Miami is in jebbie's state after all! :cry:.... This is so sad and my God it has been over THREE weeks, pick these poor people up and find their families!!!



A corpse lies draped over a fence in the Ninth Ward Tuesday, Sept. 20, 2005, in New Orleans. Three weeks after Hurricane Katrina swept through New Orleans bodies are still being retrieved. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)

edit: Link from w8liftinglady to rate up...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050920/480/latg10709202344#

and the chimperor** says he sees "progress"...



US President George W. Bush (R) looks on as Jim Barksdale, Chairman of the Governor's Commission for Recovery, Rebuilding and Renewal speaks to local officials and business leaders in Gulfport, MS. Bush is on his fifth visit to the area ravaged by hurricane Katrina more than three weeks ago.(AFP/Jim Watson)

And let us not for get who will be investigatng the fuck-ups...



Assistant to the President and Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor Fran Townsend briefs reporters at the White House, in this Wednesday, June 29, 2005 file photo. U.S. President Bush named Frances Fragos Townsend, his in-house homeland security adviser, to lead an administration investigation of 'what went wrong and what went right' in the sluggish federal response to Hurricane Katrina, the White House said Tuesday, Sept. 20, 2005. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds, File)

:puke:
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:56 PM
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1. Goddamn...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:56 PM
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2. hmm this looks as they ere wating for the normal
process to be over so they can hide them bodies...

and no that would not be allowed to happen in white Murica, no way , no how
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:57 PM
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3. oh fucking hell
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:57 PM
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4. Dear God
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:57 PM
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5. I am ashamed
of my country. I am sad and ashamed.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:01 PM
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9. Echo of my sentiments.
I can't remember the last time I felt anything but shame or outrage or sadness.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:58 PM
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6. THAT is why the death count is so low. They haven't even bothered to pick
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 06:58 PM by BrklynLiberal
up all the bodies.....
They are going to bulldoze everything and bury it. Then they are going to build McMansions right on top of it all. Shades of Poltergeist!!!
:mad: :puke: :spank: :grr: :nuke: :cry: :banghead: :rant:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:00 PM
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7. Exactly.... And
all of the folks dying post evacuation will not be counted either!

:grr:
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:02 PM
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13. Rita is a Godsend for Bush.
The last thing he wants is people seeing the carnage first hand in NO.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:03 PM
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15. The only way they WILL get shown is by us
Blow up the pictures for posters for the march.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:04 PM
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16. and vote this up so it makes it to GREATEST and everyone here sees it.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:25 PM
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36. link to the AP photo on Yahoo
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050920/480/latg10709202344#
I recommend we all email it to every major network,talking head,and politician we know-complementing them on the Feds great handling of the situation..
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:39 PM
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43. I just added your link. Thank you
and love and peace to your baby. :hug:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:05 AM
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92. Thanks,Leftchick...
:pals:
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:47 PM
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45. done
n/t
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:36 PM
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42. Excellent IDEA!!!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:52 PM
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46. No, we should make sure
Barbara Bush tours this area with her 'family'.

These elitest snobs would break down in moments upon seeing this. They have never been exposed to consequences, or for that matter, reality.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. In our dreams, that would happen
but not likely, so posters will have to do. Nice thought, though.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:22 AM
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78. Here hear. nt
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #46
85. Honestly, I do not think that it could touch her "beautiful mind"
I do not just say this out of my deep hatred for the bush* clan. I say this because I believe that she, in her patrician view of the world, is not capable of basic empathy.

If any of these bastards had the capacity for empathy, they could not carry out the policies, and the ridiculous statements about their policies, that are just plain evil.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:06 AM
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94. I don't think she would ever break down. She and the other ice organ
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 08:07 AM by higher class
creatures in this country don't break down. There is nothing that even gets their lip trembling. The word 'heart' has no connection with these people. They call in to Washington Journal every morning. Presumptive and arrogant evil.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:59 AM
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83. That is an excellent idea.
Peace.
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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:43 PM
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70. Nor will those people (and they were people, * , you asshole)
pulled into the pumps, sent into the lake or the Mississippi and out into the sea, beyond being found, beyond identification, beyond the care of their loved ones or the attention of anyone at all. See, the engineers were worried about more than broken buildings stopping up the pumps. They were worried about dead people.

Did anyone explain this problem to the pResident? Bet not. Beautiful minds and all.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:01 PM
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12. how I hate those bastards
I think you are right, they will bulldoze the bodies.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #6
17. those Mc Mansions
will be haunted and uninhabitable...

:grr:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:19 PM
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31. Ironically, you are right, not because of ghosts, per se, but because of
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 07:20 PM by BrklynLiberal
the toxic chemical, fungal and bacterial poisons that will eventually seep up and poison the inhabitants. I guess you could call that "ghosts"..just not of the usual kind. It will be a form of vengeance on the part of those who originally lived there.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #6
38. Do not anger the spirit of New Orleans
They will drop some serious voodoo on yer ass.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:00 PM
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8. Junior needs some hands-on work in this recovery mission
Photo-ops don't work. The real photos, such as the one above, underscore the hypocrisy of his 'good works'.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:01 PM
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10. OMG....
this is so fu*ked up!! What excuse could there possibly be? Fu*king assholes
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:01 PM
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11. I sure hope this picture makes it into at least one of the mainstream
media so people can see what this admnistration is doing while insisting that the recovered bodies be prayed over.
What bunch of disgusting hypocrites..........
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:09 PM
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20. Is there some way we can try
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 07:10 PM by liberalhistorian
to make sure that happens? Someone in the MSM we can email this to? We should try to bombard the MSM with this photo! It's unbe-fucking-lievable that this kind of picture exists in this country. This looks like something from a third world country. Then again, this is a poor, black ward in NO, so Bushie and Co. really don't give a shit.

And no, this would never happen in Miami or the FL Keys, that's for goddamn sure. Look how quickly they're scrambling to make sure everything goes okay and all the fancy mansions and golf courses in the Keys are protected!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:15 PM
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24. I have to think back on the campaign season last year
four Florida hurricains and FEMA was on the job. Even with the fuck-up Brownie!

How much more obvious can it be that buchco* hates black people!

:grr: :cry:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:20 PM
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32. Not just FEMA on the job right away,
but Shrubbie was headed down there in less than two days, and he was right on it and all over it. Instead of lollygagging at fundraisers, playing guitars and licking frosting off his fingers, and instead of having to be literally dragged away from his fucking five-week vacation, vacations he wouldn't even consider allowing us regular Americans to have.

I don't just think it's because he's racist, there were plenty of poor whites affected as well; it's simply that he doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone not in his class and the poor are lower than cockroaches in his eyes, and in those of his family. Even though most of those people probably have worked harder in one month than he has in his entire life. But what else would you expect when you're born with the silver platter in your mouth and daddy buys all your businesses for you and picks you up when you fuck them up, which he always did?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:43 PM
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58. Which third world country
There is a lot of respect for the dead in developing countries. We do not leave our dead lying in the street for three weeks.
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:21 PM
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33. I'm mailing it to cafferty n/t
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:03 PM
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14. OMG! That is so sad, so terrible.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:06 PM
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18. Everytime someone compares the PNAC and Fed Soc regime
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 07:06 PM by higher class
to Hitler and Nazism, people are horrifed. What is the difference in the disregard and abuse of Jews with the disregard and abuse of Blacks?

We'll see more proof when the Blacks are (nearly) all kicked out and not allowed to return.

By the wary, where are all those children?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:17 PM
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26. there is no difference
This is genocide ameriKKKan style. :puke:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:06 PM
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19. That's Bush's idea of dignity
This is an international disgrace.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:24 PM
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35. I'll say it again what you rightly said: this is an international disgrace
three weeks after the hurricane and bodies are still there, decaying in the heat.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. If they're decayed, they are harder to identify
O I C
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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:10 PM
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21. I was reading an article about post-katrina
and one point that was brought out was how this situation was NOT comparable to a third world country for in Bangladesh or Kinshasha they would never leave the bodies laying around. Out of reverence and respect for the dead they are meticulous about scouring every inch and giving the dead their proper burial or other ceremonial send off.

We must bear witness to the dirty truth. With a heavy heart -nominated
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:19 PM
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28. Indeed MSM was all upset
after the tsunami that they buried their dead in mass graves. That's way more respectful than this shit. I have snapped. I can't take one more day of this nasty treatment of fellow human beings. And people wonder why the rest of the world hates the US - if this is how your government treats its own citizens, what can the rest of the planet expect.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:12 PM
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22. They don't need a fucking investigation
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 07:13 PM by liberalhistorian
into why things went wrong. The hard-hit gulf coast areas were poor and black, or just poor, and the other areas hurricanes have hit, (like, say, Florida) have been white and middle/upper class, and/or important election areas. CASE CLOSED.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:13 PM
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23. *uck! I'll do it myself!
Seriously, give me a hazmat suit and some time off, and I'll DO IT MYSELF!! How many of us wouldn't, just to get it done! What's the matter with my government?!!!
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:49 AM
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82. "My Government"? My country , yes, but not my government..
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 12:49 AM by anitar1
I did read recently that if the bodies cannot be identified , they are not counted. A death certificate has to be issued before they can be counted. No name, no certificate.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:09 PM
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100. Do you have a link or a google-able bit of info about the idea that
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 12:44 PM by Nothing Without Hope
unidentified bodies would not be counted? That's very important and I have not yet seen this myself. It's looked from the first like the death toll will be deliberately undercounted, and we need all parts of the evidence.

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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:16 PM
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25. Beyond disgrace...
...and yes, if the waterlogged bodies decay, the death count will be lower.

It's all about the numbers with *.

Nominated...should be blasted to European press...maybe the French would print this.

We'll only get a guesstimate if we can get a database of the missing started.

But with all the NOLA dispora...and perhaps even more scattering "to the winds" because of Rita...this may be a difficult job.

Beyond disgrace.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:18 PM
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27. They should do it like after the Holocaust
The Allies sent Nazi soldiers and local citizens into the concentration camps to help clean up the bodies and prepare graves.

Let those who waited and stalled and denied aid be the first to pick up the bodies.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:19 PM
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29. He is quite emaciated - he likely lived over a week after the flood.
I find that thought to be more horrifying.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #29
40. and who really knows?
It is all so horrifying beyond my imagination. This is not the America of our founding Fathers. What a very warped and twisted country we have become.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:19 PM
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30. A great job by SCI/Kenyon eom
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #30
107. And AP photo/Paul Sancya
Apparently the media didn't like the pic.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:22 PM
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34. Three weeks!
Jesus, this just is too much.

SHAME FOREVER UPON THEIR HEADS.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:27 PM
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37. They've got no conscience
They can't be operating with any kind of conscience. They can't let this go on and sleep at night unless their consciences have been long since silenced.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #37
111. And remember, these are the same
hypocrites who love to shove pictures of abortions in people's faces; well, where the hell is their concern for and conscience about the LIVING? "Culture of life", what BULLSHIT!
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:28 PM
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39. Devastating to see the juxtaposition: cadaver/smirk/coordinated outfit
as if we needed an investigation on what is patently obvious.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:46 PM
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44. "We will clena up the dead, as soon as the vote republican."
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:02 PM
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48. What the FUCK is he smirking about?
The man is a certifiable sociopath.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:09 PM
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49. he smirks because he has no clue
and if he does you are right. He is indeed the worst of sociopaths. :grr:
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La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:13 PM
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50. My God!
Shameful. And people are worried about when the beineix and PoBoy shops are going to reopen for the tourists. Why don't we see this on the MSM?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. why ideed?
because it is reality! :(
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:19 PM
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51. Call me Polllyanna...but when we take back Congress in '06,
there WILL be an accounting for this unbelievable clusterf*&k.
A REAL investigation, not this nepotistic sham currently being proposed. CHIMPEACH!!!!
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:27 PM
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53. If I have to wait till 2006
then okay.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:28 PM
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54. Those pictures ought to be side by side.
Bush on the left, the corpse on the right.

Bush is smiling while the body is still draped over a fence three weeks later.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:31 PM
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55. OMG-I was just venting and ranting to my husband about just this topic!
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 08:41 PM by TheGoldenRule
We were watching the crappy NBC Nightly News and saw all the FEMA help going to Florida and-excuse me here Floridians-but I got absolutely LIVID seeing all that help BEFORE the hurricane even hits!

UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!

FEMA and * left people to DIE in NOLA and I am so fucking pissed off and so damn sad about it!!!!!!!!

And they can't even bother picking up the bodies!!!!!!!!

:cry:

:grr:

:rant:

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. oh TGR!
:hug: :cry:

I am with you....

:(
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #60
63. We're all in this together....
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 09:02 PM by TheGoldenRule
:grouphug:

And thank you for your bravery in posting this thread! :yourock:

on edit: answered my own question!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:35 PM
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56. Nominated. And sent to:
viewerservices@msnbc.com
hardball@msnbc.com
countdown@msnbc.com
KOlbermann@MSNBC.com
Connected@MSNBC.com
RReagan@MSNBC.com
DShuster@msnbc.com

executive-editor@nytimes.com
managing-editor@nytimes.com
news-tips@nytimes.com

ombudsman@washpost.com

editor@usatoday.com

ombud@globe.com

letters@latimes.com

info@thenation.com

Editors@newsweek.com

letters@time.com
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:32 PM
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73. I also forwarded it to a very long list of media people....
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:27 PM
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76. But they can't show it on air, can they? (eom)
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:58 AM
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97. Good job. I just wanted to post the emails for others to use since
I had them to share.

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:43 PM
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57. That should have been the backdrop for bush's* speech
Not some fake Disney like scene with potted plants and freaky blue lighting.

This is what has transpired in our Country under his watch. Not the asinine photo-ops he keeps seeking on his visits to NO.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:51 PM
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59. Thank you to the "liberal" media
I mean, you know, the "LIBERAL" media is SO out to get BUSHitler that they show these picture on TV and newspapers NIGHT AND DAY, right. :SARCASM:

Freakin sick.

Too goddamn bad the scumbag's rance isn't on the coast so this Hurricane Rita could do to it what Katrina did to THOUSANDS, and maybe, just maybe, Presidunce Asshole could GET IT, although we know that will NEVER EVER HAPPEN. Sociopathic piece of SHIT.

Lu
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:55 PM
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61. And where praytell is the fucking LOYAL OPPOSITION????
:mad:
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:56 PM
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62. Mail this picture to all of them and ask WHY?
to the WH, FEMA, and the press. Ask why an American is in that condition 3 weeks out. Ask why "honor and dignity" so touted in their barring of the press order doesn't extend to this American

Ask all of them, make them look at this.

National shame.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:21 PM
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68. AND mail it to your Uncle Jack who "would rather have a beer with Bush"
and "feels sorry for him"

And your cousin Craig who votes Bush because Sean Hannity rocks.

And your coot Aunt Mildred who "just feels sorry for Bush, the way everyone is ganging up on him".
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:03 PM
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64. FEMA blocked evacuation aid and relief aid for New Orleans
FEMA prevented evacuation using Amtrack and other means and blocked a huge amount of volunteer aid by cities, states, firefighters, countries, volunteers, companies, emergency response agencies, etc.
while failing to act to prevent the problems or aid in evacuation or provide aid to devastated areas of Louisiana and Mississippi

Summary:
http://www.flcv.com/femabloc.html
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:04 PM
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65. Ceasar showed up for the fifth time today
once again, hand picked crowd and WHO were they? Future CRONIES and NEW PALS - all BIZ men..

He was cheerleading and I was wondering how many tongues would fit on one ass at the same time..

Love the CODE talk - "Yeah we're TRYING to cut through all the red tape, but you gotta READ them contracts, the Coast Guard has to look under the Bridges you know.. (looked away at someone) Yeah YOU'RE gonna get some of that (big grin)"..

Translation: "Man are you guys gonna get RICH! We're gonna hand you all debit cards worth up to 250K EACH, more each if you kiss my ass right here on TV.. Any Black guys here in the crowd? No? Well, Nevermind, ain't no place for them here anyway - the one's I didn't kill will be working for ya'll for 2 bucks an hour! NEW SLAVES for Everyone! And here I am rubbing in everyone's faces right here on the TV cos they all pretend not to notice that I'm speaking in code!"

Gore Vidal once said, "Here's the Republican CODE: No matter what they say it's always the same message - 'Get the niggers..'"

Those were JACKALS and it was sickening. These fucks need to bury the dead with SPOONS for the rest of their lives..
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:14 PM
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66. FEMA focused on Media Spin and Control rather than Emergency Response
Why FEMA failed: Ideologically opposed to a strong federal role in disaster relief and obsessed with terrorism, the Bush administration let a once-admired agency fall apart.

FEMA focused on Media Spin and Control of Media rather than Emergency Response

WASHINGTON -- The government's disaster chief waited until hours after Hurricane Katrina already had struck the Gulf Coast before asking his boss to dispatch 1,000 Homeland Security employees to the region -- and gave them two days to arrive, according to internal documents.
Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, sought the approval from Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff roughly five hours after Katrina made landfall on the morning of Aug. 29. Brown said that among duties of these employees was to "convey a positive image" about the government's response for victims.

The same day he wrote Chertoff, Brown also urged local fire and rescue departments outside Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi not to send trucks or emergency workers into disaster areas without an explicit request for help from state or local governments. Brown said it was vital to coordinate fire and rescue efforts. (this would insure there was no aid)

Meanwhile, the airline industry said the government's request for help evacuating storm victims didn't come until late Thursday afternoon. The president of the Air Transport Association, James May, said the Homeland Security Department called then to ask if the group could participate in an airlift for refugees. Wednesday, September 07, 2005 BY TED BRIDIS Associated Press

Brown exaggerated qualifications on resume and during confirmation hearings http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/10/brown/index.html

Did the wrong guy resign?
A report from Knight Ridder shows that a confused Michael Chertoff waited 36 hours before giving Michael Brown authority to mobilize a federal response to Katrina.
Michael Brown stepped down as the director of FEMA Monday, but a new report from Knight Ridder walks responsibility for the Katrina debacle a little bit higher up the chain of command. While Brown has taken much of the blame for the federal government's slow response in New Orleans, Knight Ridder says that Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff failed to give Brown the authority he needed to mobilize a massive federal response to Katrina until 36 hours after the storm struck land.
Who had the authority in the meantime? Michael Chertoff.
Knight Ridder says that "Chertoff -- not Brown -- was in charge of managing the national response to a catastrophic disaster, according to the National Response Plan, the federal government's blueprint for how agencies will handle major natural disasters or terrorist incidents." But according to a memo Chertoff wrote to other Cabinet secretaries and agency heads, the Homeland Security secretary didn't hand over that power to Brown until late afternoon or evening on Aug. 30 -- a day and a half after Katrina struck. And even then, he suggested that a to-be-launched White House task force would lead the response to Katrina and that the Department of Homeland Security would merely "assist" in that effort.

FEMA The Forever Elsewhere Management Agency
In Gulfport, Miss., 13 days after Katrina roared through, “we couldn't find one resident who had ever seen a FEMA official.”
By Karen A. Lash <2005-09-14>


Media Manipulation by Bush Administration regarding Katrina:
Touring the breached 17th street levee site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. . http://www.fromtheroots.org/story/2005/9/3/19542/97952
The open-air food distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras Friday was torn down immediately after the president and the herd of 'news people' had left and that others which were allegedly being set up were abandoned at the same time, according to German TV. http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/002504.html

Hundreds of City Fire Fighters from all over U.S. volunteered to aid New Orleans but were only used as props for President Bush’s photo ops. From all across the nation, local fire departments have sent firefighters -- many of them trained in emergency medicine and search-and-rescue techniques -- to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina. The Federal Emergency Management Agency requested the help. But when the firefighters arrived in Atlanta, loaded down with the firefighting gear FEMA told them to bring, they were sent to a hotel to wait. Some of them have been waiting for three or four days now. Some have been assigned to sit through an eight-hour class on topics that included sexual harassment. And some have been dispatched to the disaster area to work as human props behind George W. Bush as he toured the destruction. http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html?blog=/politics/war_room/2005/09/07/firefighters/index.html
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html?blog=/politics/war_room/2005/09/07/brown/index.html

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:15 PM
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67. New Orleans levee protection had big cuts to pay for Iraq war
New Orleans levee protection needs lost out to Iraq funding
When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA. Over the next several years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside. Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. ...In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain ...
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002331.html
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:35 PM
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69. Bush doesn't CARE
If it ain't a corporation, Bush doesn't care...

If it ain't making him or his cronies some major bucks, Bush doesn't care about it...

What has happened to our country? These people are AMERICANS!!!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:51 PM
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71. I believe more all the time that the neocons WANT to incite racial
violence. This is not a crazy idea, and as time passes and these atrocities and deaths continue, it seems more and more likely.

One of the "justifications" that the POTUS can use for declaring martial law is civil unrest. You can bet that if there are protests over the needless - and continuing - deaths and the horrifying treatment of evacuees and bodies, it will be hyped and twisted into something far worse. They have been wanting an "enabling event" for years, and they have already militarized New Orleans beyond all necessity.

Bush himself has called for greater powers for the president and the military in the Katrina aftermath. Oh yes, they want that excuse. I do feel more conviinced all the time that they also want to incite racial unrest to back up and expand their excuse for martial law.

Once it's declared, Congress can't even REVIEW the order for six months.

Please read this thread, including the replies, which include the background on the Posse Comitatus Act, the dictatorial powers of the president under FEMA executive orders. FEMA is NOT just for natural disaasters. It is specifically designed for "civil disturbances" as well.

Please read this entire thread. Put the pieces together yourself. You'll see this is NOT A KOOKY CONSPIRACY THEORY:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4790112
thread title: Missing A KEY POINT in *'s speech: POWER GRAB FOR POTUS AND MILITARY
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:05 AM
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90. NWH I am with you...
This is indeed no damn "KOOKY CONSPIRACY THEORY"! They are acting this way for a very evil purpose. :grr:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 10:25 PM
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72. I feel so sad for this - it is unconscionable
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:02 PM
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74. is there some kind of registry/memorial online where citizens...
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 11:05 PM by DubyasWorld
-- not the feds -- can list their missing loved ones, so a more accurate account of disaster can be seen by the world?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:12 PM
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75. just sent this beaut to my congress critter
what can I say, these nazis are shwing their true colors
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:15 AM
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77. part of the American ethic used to be that Americans never . . .
abandoned other Americans . . . saving them whenever possible, and immediately retrieving remains when an American dies/is killed . . . neither of these happened in New Orleans or throughout the Gulf Coast, and "disgrace" is way too mild a word to describe the intentional neglect shown -- to those who were trapped, and to those who have expired . . .

now, three weeks later, they still don't give a shit . . . there still has been no house-to-house search that actually enters homes and checks every floor . . . if this had happened within three days of the disaster, hundreds (possibly thousands) of lives would have been saved . . . as it is, those lives are now bodies -- the ones that they're still not retrieving, still not even properly searching for . . .

when people say this clusterfuck was racially motivated, they are absolutely dead on right . . . because things would have happened a whole lot differently if this tragedy had taken place in, say, Miami Beach, rather than in New Orleans . . .

and just as an aside . . . the body counts they are releasing are bullshit -- on two counts . . . first, in the number of bodies they have retrieved and, second, in the number of bodies they know are in the houses they're still not searching . . .
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:09 AM
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84. I keep asking my husband if he has seen many attic searches!
I keep looking at the TV in disbelief! How damn stupid do they think we are? There are people in those attics who need to be identified. Damn them. They know that.

I was afraid that they wouldn't REALLY search ALL of the attics and that they would one day suddenly say..."We're all done now. The homes are uninhabitable. We'll have to demolish them." I am sick over this. Just sick.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:32 AM
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86. I don't think at this point they want to find them
If they're not going in and checking houses properly, only knocking, as if the dead will knock back or say "come in," it seems as if they're trying not to find bodies so that they can say "gee, the count isn't so bad.

And then, weeks later, when we're on to the next crisis, the REAL toll will come out, only something will be spun on the news to cover it up.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:26 AM
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79. Seeing that just makes me want to hit *somebody*...hard!!!!
*screaming*
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:32 AM
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80. No shit... I have NEVER seen or even heard of
such indifference to the dead in this country.

Disgusting.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:38 AM
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81. Yea, I'm certain
ole franny townsend knows all about 'what went wrong'. She's probably debriefed a number of sorority events.


Wonder when, if ever, those hands last washed anything!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:35 AM
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87. What civilized society leaves it's dead lying around for weeks
This is deplorable.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:37 AM
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88. I have no more words to describe my horror.
I see myself in that poor human's remains.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:52 AM
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89. The Ninth Ward is the last area in NOLA left for search and rescue.
The horrors that are being found there are said to be unimaginable.

This is just one more piece of the nightmare that is *'s legacy.


Kicked and recommended.

:cry:
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:36 AM
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91. Fax this picture to your Congress people.
I am faxing this picture to my Senators and Congresswoman. I am going to let them know that we know the truth, Do they?

Let them see the horror.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:31 AM
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93. This is truly an outrage!!!
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 06:32 AM by Window
This needs to distributed far and wide! DAMN!!!!!!!!!!


Peace
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:22 AM
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95. Rigor mortis on a fence in the United Corporations of America. n/t
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 08:25 AM by higher class
Richard Cheney and his marionette, George Smirking Bush.

Pay dishonest accounting firms to arrange a tax and regulation free existence, hide off shore, and ship the jobs out of the country. Don't forget their stockholders and stockbrokers.

And let the temple of a former soul be exposed to the world. For what?

If you think that we think the abandonment of all these former human beings is bad - wait to hear what people of other cultures are saying - people who have more respect for a body, some of whom are non-christians, but who religiously care for the body - and arrange for it immediately.

Perhaps this 'inattention' to the bodies is at the suggestion and recommendation of Kenyon / SCI, the Bush family friends.

But it looks like some of the living are only a little better off in the care they are receiving.

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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:56 AM
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96. Pick up the bodies!
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:38 AM
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98. UNf--king believable............this just makes me sick.
No wonder they don't want people back. I can't imagine why they are not picking up the bodies even after the sweet heart deal Bush's funeral home cronies got. At this rate we will never have an accountable death count from the hurricane. Perhaps that the idea, let them rot like garbage.

"Show me the manner in which a nation or a community cares for its dead. I will measure exactly the sympathies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty to high ideals".
William Ewart Gladstone - PM Great Britain 1868-94
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:57 PM
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103. Oh my, that Gladstone quote! It's going into my sig line for a while.
So very, very true.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 03:06 PM
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106. excellent quote
and Yes! That is exactly why they aren't picking them up. :(
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:45 AM
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99. Awful!
:cry:

This is another photo in a long line of horrible bush terror photos, that need to be put out there for everyone to see.
THIS is what America has become.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:50 PM
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101. Each of these people was part of a family, had dear friends who DON'T KNOW
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 01:20 PM by Nothing Without Hope
what happened to him/her and whose trauma is hugely increased and prolonged because of it. I can't think of a word strong enough to describe the monstrous cruelty and contempt of leaving bodies to rot in the streets and in the houses for three weeks.

There can be no excuse for this. In other great world disasters, even in areas considered remote and very poor, the bodies have been gathered and buried within a week. The pitiful body in the OP, its head in the toxic mud, draped and abandoned like garbage, is in New Orleans, which is swarming with so many military and police that the reporters say they have to hire off-duty policemen just to get around through all the checkpoints:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9314188/#050916
BRIAN WILLIAMS blogged on Sept 16: It is impossible to over-emphasize the extent to which this area is under government occupation, and portions of it under government-enforced lockdown. Police cars rule the streets. They (along with Humvees, ambulances, fire apparatus, FEMA trucks and all official-looking SUVs) are generally not stopped at checkpoints and roadblocks. All other vehicles are subject to long lines and snap judgments and must PROVE they have vital business inside the vast roped-off regions here. If we did not have the services of an off-duty law enforcement officer, we could not do our jobs in the course of a work day and get back in time to put together the broadcast and get on the air....


There is literally no excuse for just leaving the people in houses to die and the bodies, even those walked by in the streets every day, to rot. There are clearly enough personnel to deal with this - but they have other orders.

Just as there is literally no excuse for allowing the people to continue to die. At this point, no euphemism can still be retained: it is mass murder on a huge scale, and given the racial/economic makeup of the numbers, it is GENOCIDE. Let's not forget this OTHER powerful photo, taken when a group of California National Guard DISOBEYED FEMA ORDERS and rescued a New Orleans man who was unconscious in his home. This was on the same day as Bush's heavily staged speech in New Orleans, the same day that Brian Williams described the swarming military and police elsewhere in the city, and there can be no question that there were hundreds of personnel who COULD have saved Mr. Hollingsworth and who knows how many hundreds of others lying near death in their homes but DID NOT:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/14/12516/3649



Mr. Hollingsworth was rescued - AGAINST FEMA ORDERS - ON SEPTEMBER 16. How many other people are still dying or have died within the last few days, not only in heavily militarized New Orleans but in all the other "forgotten" communities across the devastated area? Places like Bogalusa or others we haven't even heard about?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4826142

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:52 PM
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102. Yeah, but if they picked up all the bodies, they'd actually have to count
them. Right?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:06 PM
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104. Far more bodies in attics than in the street. Some of them living as
recently as September 16:

Let's not forget this OTHER powerful photo, taken when a group of California National Guard DISOBEYED FEMA ORDERS and rescued a New Orleans man who was unconscious in his home. This was on the same day as Bush's heavily staged speech in New Orleans, the same day that Brian Williams described the swarming military and police elsewhere in the city, and there can be no question that there were who COULD have saved Mr. Hollingsworth and who knows how many hundreds of others lying near death in their homes but DID NOT:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/14/12516/3649



Mr. Hollingsworth was rescued - AGAINST FEMA ORDERS - ON SEPTEMBER 16. How many other people are still dying or have died within the last few days, not only in heavily militarized New Orleans but in all the other "forgotten" communities across the devastated area? Places like Bogalusa or others we haven't even heard about?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4826142

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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:18 PM
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105. What's the scoop on Frances Fragos Townsend
She was in the PBS documentary about the FBIs John O'Neill and worked under janet reno. So, she is some kind of mole?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:50 PM
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108. Nah. She's gotta be a Bush loyalist. She has Clinton admin b/g, but keeps
but she still is doing something to keep Bush happy. I figure she's just ambitious and not the type to rock the boat.
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Vermontearthmom Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:31 PM
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109. Sick, rotten, gross, painful to see
What is going on in our country. People are slowly waking up and see what the evil bushitler has done. I pray the elections of 2006 are the start of the change. This administration needs to go.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:43 PM
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110. Another view of the Dead from Yahoo... *Graphic*
This is so fucking sad... WTF? Why has no one retrieved this person?

:cry:



A corpse lies draped over a fence in the Ninth Ward Tuesday, Sept. 20, 2005, in New Orleans. Three weeks after Hurricane Katrina swept through New Orleans bodies are still being retrieved. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)
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