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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:43 PM
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NYT: In Bush's Trail, Scarred Ground
In Bush's Trail, Scarred Ground

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/21/politics/21airforce.html

By MATTHEW L. WALD
Published: September 21, 2005

WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 - When people refer to battlegrounds in presidential races, they are usually not thinking of airport runways. But those people probably have not heard of Runway 4/22 at the airport in Las Cruces, N.M.

The runway, the airport's longest, has been closed since President Bush made a campaign stop in August 2004. It has gouges six inches deep and a hundred yards long, which the city says were put there by two Air Force cargo planes accompanying the president. Las Cruces put the damage at $2.1 million.

The city said airport officials warned the Air Force that the planes, a giant C-17 and a military version of the 757, were too heavy, and that the hot asphalt would be too soft for landing that day.

When Bill Clinton paid a presidential visit, he landed at Holloman Air Force Base nearby, said Terence J. Kelly, a spokesman for Las Cruces. When Senator John Kerry and former Senator John Edwards, the Democratic candidates for president and vice president, visited, "they landed elsewhere," Mr. Kelly said.

After a year of discussions, the Air Force has offered $600,000 for repairs.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:45 PM
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1. The trail of arrogancy and lack of caring he leaves behind just has no end
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:50 PM
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3. geech, it took the WH a year to decide! stall stall stall.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:52 PM
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4. And, those cargo planes carry his SS Army along with SUV's that
ride with him and the "blackhawk helicopter" that flies over wherever he visits.

I know this because of being at protests for both Bush and Cheney here in NC and the vehicles for their security are all black SUV's with tinted glass and the Black Hawk always annnounces when they are arriving.

We don't just pay for Air Force One and a Limo we are paying for a whole damned entourage and we paid it over and over every time he was on the road hawking one of his programs. I even wonder if the Repug Party paid the bill for his dozens of campaign swings. Maybe they only paid for part of Air Force 1 and his entourage was paid for every damned time by us and if you were a Democrat you weren't even allowed to get in to see him. :grr:
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:22 PM
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17. The entourage SUVs total up to 20 sometimes and are
all reinforced and bullet proof in case the pRes needs to be whisked away in any of them. Imagine the fuel costs for the transport planes too!

And your statement his entourage was paid for every damned time by us and if you were a Democrat you weren't even allowed to get in to see him makes me see red also!

:mad:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 03:29 PM
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27. You should see what they do every time he goes anywhere in DC!
Cops start showing up about 20 minutes ahead, lining the streets and blocking them off, even stopping pedestrians. Traffic is all snarled up until His Majesty blasts past.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:48 PM
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2. I'm in Las Cruces and this got very little play even when it happened
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 11:50 PM by Gloria
because the local rag is a Gannett/USA (repug)paper....Luckily, we really don't have any sort of air traffic here. The little airline flying to ABQ and Phoenix just went belly up, and it's not the first. We're 40 minutes from El Paso, so that's our airport.

Right now, the locals are more concerned with PRAYER before council meetings than they are about Bush's screwing up our runway... Sad
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:57 PM
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5. That is so sadly funny
I had to let out a rueful laugh here in NYC. Then again, at least you live in a beautiful part of the country, right?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:05 AM
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10. I used to write for the Las Cruces Sun-News
Before it was owned by Gannett. It was a little better then, but seriously under-budgeted.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:00 PM
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20. What years did you work for the Sun-News?
I knew a # of the employees there in 88-90. They used to come into my bar (The Club).
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:06 PM
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21. I worked there from 98-99
But I was based out of Deming, so I covered Deming, Columbus and the Mexican border.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:06 AM
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6. Remember what his helos did to the Buck House in London?

Ruined the Queen Mum's rose bushes.

And on top of that he brought his own chef!
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:12 AM
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7. kick
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The Sleeper Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:20 AM
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8. Bush to las Cruces:
Go Fuck yourself.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:02 AM
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9. If the damage was due to a campaign stop...
... then why isn't the Bush/Cheney-04 Campaign responsible for paying for the damages?!?
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:14 AM
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11. Las Cruces ought to take the campaign to court. n/t
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:21 AM
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12. Damn Right!!!
Besides, I'd love to see that bastard FORCED to take accountability. It's the only way he ever DOES.
Party of Personal Responsibility, my ass!!
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:31 AM
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13. Yes, absolutely. It seems legitimately litigible.
Is that a word? :shrug:
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:57 AM
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15. Works for me.
:toast:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:32 PM
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18. because it was Bush
remember they don't pay for anything. They just do the damage and walk on by.
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cpamomfromtexas Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:50 AM
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14. and we're supposed to believe he was a pilot!
Yeah right!

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:14 PM
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16. Typical BushCo arrogance.
Yes, georgie is the emperor of destruction and leaves a swath of it in his path wherever he goes. He has no sense of accountability whatsoever.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 12:53 PM
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19. He's a Pox on the land, an oozing puss of disaster wherever he goes
an absolute utter failure who is often, inexplicably, given a pass by big Democrats. He is indefensible but NEVER defended by even the most moderate Democrats here at DU. What is wrong with that party's leaders?
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:36 PM
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22. Good questions... some Dems speak out, but are never heard...
with our corporate MSM, or, if heard, are attacked and even stabbed in the back by fellow Dems, as Mayor Richie Daley did t Dan Rostenkowski for his reading the FBI report on Abu Gharib.

Of course, many Dems are really the same bird as the Repugs, just a different color of feather.

It will take a radical change in the electorate to reverse this country's direction. I do not believe the current Dems, for the most part, are up to it. So, pain is the growing shared coin of the realm.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:38 PM
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23. An earlier Bush visit entailed denying chemotherapy to hospital patients:
This was in San Diego. For those of you who don't realize it, the timing of chemotherapy is extremely, vitally important. Getting off the schedule can jeopardize the treatment. Yet that was done as part of setting up Bush's photo-op:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/San_Diego_hospital_closed_to_acommodate_Bush_visit_No_ch_0906.html
thread title: The Raw Story | San Diego hospital closed to accommodate Bush visit; No chemo
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:38 PM
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24. Every time one looks at Bu$hitCo, a new disaster... what don't we know?
That's the scary question... what don't we know, what are they hinding?
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freesqueeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:58 PM
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25. If he'd only been getting a haircut
FOX would have covered it.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:52 PM
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26. Bush always leaves a slug trail wherever he goes.
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kat21 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 03:44 PM
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28. Wait a cotton pickin minute -
Our tax dollars are paying for this and this was a campaign visit? Um, shouldn't the money come from campaign contributions?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 03:47 PM
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29. Great news. We can pay Cheney's pals $6 billion to fix it....nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 06:03 PM
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30. If W wants to come to your town, tell him: "We can't afford you."
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:28 PM
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31. Accountable to no one...
...accepts responsibility for nothing. So what else is new?
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