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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:08 AM
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Christian school expels girl for having gay parents
A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter. Shay Clark was expelled from Ontario Christian School on Thursday.

"Your family does not meet the policies of admission," Superintendent Leonard Stob wrote to Tina Clark, the girl's biological mother.

Stob wrote that school policy requires that at least one parent may not engage in practices "immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship," The Los Angeles Times reported in Friday's edition....

Clark and her partner have been together 22 years and have two other daughters, ages 9 and 19.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050923/ap_on_re_us/lesbians__daughter&printer=1



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castiron Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:14 AM
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1. Positive Christian Lifestyle. Eat me.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:18 AM
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2. Well god knows the little girl chose her parents
:sarcasm: I really don't know why these women chose a bible beater school. I know as a gay man, and one who was raised a bible beater, that's the last place I'd send my dog for training let alone a child.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:21 AM
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3. This is outrageous.
The teen will be screwed for the rest of her life for no fault of her own, and no fault of her parents either. Likely, she will need counseling to help her cope. Ironic will be too mild of a word to describe the phenomenon that those counselors will be products of the same types of schools with the same types of mindsets.

Today, a private school in a compulsory education system created another life-long victim with its punish the child strategy.

Sad. I hope some lawyer punishes the school with the same determiniation and efficiency. Paying a monetary fine is not enough for the life they just ruined. They need the 'legal equivalent' of life-in-prison.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:34 AM
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4. Yes, it is. But she is probably better off outside of xtian schooling.
She's probably a very mature and self-assured child. Good chance she didn't like being there anyhow.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:41 AM
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6. You underestimate the power of injustice.
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 01:46 AM by SimpleTrend
I hope her parents consider her injury.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:42 AM
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7. I don't understand
Why a gay couple would send their kid to such a school to begin with.

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:01 AM
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10. I don't know,
but perhaps they were influenced by propaganda of various sorts. Most parents these days are overworked and don't have enough time to 'think' things through. Perhaps they truly thought the school had 'the best interests of the student' in mind.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:08 AM
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11. I guess my attitude is..
That any school that had "Christian" in it's name would need to be seriously looked at before having my kid attend. Especially if you are gay. But who knows what their reasoning was.



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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:32 PM
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15. Because the public schools are so unspeakably bad.
This Christian school may have been the only approximation of a private school locally available.

Moreover, at a public school -- where students are allowed to run amok (especially the pampered "jocks" and "socialites") -- there is absolutely nothing to prevent the students themselves from savagely bullying children of gay or lesbian parents. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't a big reason the girl was in the Christian school to begin with.

And not all Christian schools are run by JeezoNazis. Some -- the Catholic parochial schools -- are also extremely tolerant, holding zealously to the principle that children should not be punished for "the sins of their parents."

I am not a Christian, but faced with a choice of sending a child to the local public schools or to a parochial school, I'd choose the latter without hesitation. The parochial schools still teach effectively and base their curriculum on the time-proven classical model. By contrast, the public schools are maliciously conformist, viciously anti-intellectual and hopelessly mediocre -- the product of tyrannical administrators, incompetent teachers and endless pedagogic fads that further victimize the students. I speak from experience: I attended both public and parochial schools, and the public schools then -- 1946 through 1958 -- were nearly as bad as they are now (and for precisely the same reasons), just as the parochial schools were as good.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:36 PM
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16. I attended public and Catholic schools
And I can attest that Catholic school was a different world in terms of the quality of education. But there have to be other private schools around. I don't know if it was difficult to get to them or they were too expensive, though.

Pretty much decided for them at this point.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:36 AM
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5. Punitive, disgraceful. The more I see of these people the less I see Jesus
Though not Christian, I think the lessons he brought to mankind are valuable. It's sad that so many of his followers ignore them.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:20 AM
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13. .
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:51 PM
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17. Unfortunately true. In today's computerized, zero-tolerance world,
the mere fact of an expulsion -- no matter the cause -- is inescapably ruinous. This expulsion will literally destroy her life: keep her out of all the better colleges and universities and even keep her out of the armed forces (should she choose that option). Worst of all is the fact that if she and her family remain in the United States, she is now condemned to lifelong poverty: the expulsion will deny her access to any sort of well-paying job, no matter what her other qualifications might be. The corporate world -- which here in the U.S. is increasingly the ONLY world -- demands absolute conformity and obedience and is therefore venomously unforgiving about such things.

Her family's best move is probably to immigrate to Canada, where gays are protected by law, and the law really is enforced. This might save the girl's future, too.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:44 AM
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8. Ugh
What does "Love thy neighbor" don't these people get?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:08 AM
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12. They are not like you.
You typify a wonderful example of the religion. :)
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:54 AM
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9. You should re-caption that photo of the prayerful Bush supporter:
The true face of American fascism.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:23 AM
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14. The Stepford followers. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:10 PM
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18. I understand that a private school may or may not have its own --
-- policies designed to discriminate, something like the pussyified Boy Scouts, who also discriminate against gays, and that our coward courts back them up.

Just the same, I would like to see the skies part and Jesus himself borne down on a cloud bank, land in the administrative office of this school, and kick the living shit out of the administrators perpetuating this hateful goddam policy.

The Christian Right is a pack of heartless assholes.
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