It's actually a sad day when an important congressman is indicted

It reminds us that we are forced to put our faith and trust in the judgment and leadership of a cheap crook like that, and the poor decisions he has made that affect so many people here and around the planet. It is even sadder to realize that he isn't the only bad one.

That this country is being run by crooks.

You depict the status quo. Today is about hope that the system works (be it slowly)

board that keep pointing out that there is still Rove and Brown and Rumsfeld, etc.

Do they expect every evil-doer in the repuke party to be indicted on the same day????????????

We have been through thousands of bad days since * was selected--actually before that. I hope all of these depressing years of having to watch a criminal organzation "run" this country will show folks that we need a new way of doing things. The old way is worn out and totally corrupt.

Or any other other Repuke, for that matter. There have always been corrupt politicians and there always will be.

I suppose if you had an idealist perception of gov to start, you'd be saddened and disappointed, but I doubt many are that idealistic.

it's a great day

To: sheikdetailfeather; rdb3

Ann Coulter: "If you are a Republican in Washington and you haven't been indicted, you are doing something wrong."

I love that comment!

508 posted on 09/28/2005 10:37:36 AM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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I don't think anything more serious will happen with DeLay than did with Martha Stewart.

Very serious.

Then there's the backlash this will have on the Republican Party, that's a nice bonus.

Having him spend a bit of time in a fed prison and then wearing an ankle bracelet for a few months would just be the icing on the cake after that.

we just have to wait for the indictments of Fuckface and Cheney and the rest of them, so that we can know that they're doing it all right.

Right?

OK. I got time .........................

:D

He has caused a great deal of damage to the country in the mean time.
The "work" he did on redistricting Texas will be felt for many years to come.

It's sad that there are crooked Congresscritters, but we've always known there were. It was even sadder that our government did nothing to stop them. The indictment of someone we knew was corrupt is a good thing, and a promising, optimistic moment.

In the larger sense, you are right. The Senate and the House are supposed to be honorable institutions, not dens of thieves. I agree. It is a sad measure of the corruption that has destroyed so much of what is supposed to be good in America.

On the other hand, it is good that no man is above the law.

for this stuff anymore.

(well, it's not) but I remember Watergate, and how my father -- who was from an immigrant, FDR family with union activists -- was crushed. He had really liked LBJ, and was no fan of Nixon. But when Watergate unfolded, it just affected him like a punch to the gut. He knew that "local" politicians were liars and thieves, and he knew that politics was a tough game. But he wanted to believe that all Americans had a sense of ethics and morals and honor.

It is hard, perhaps especially for people too young to really remember the experience of Watergate, to remember that time in our history. The idea of a book like "Profiles in Courage" being written about today's politicians would be a sad joke. People become jaded.

Sometimes I think Robert Byrd is the only one who really appreciates what the Congress is supposed to be. Well, Teddy Kennedy, too.

Then it's a happy, happy day!!!
This is good news. It makes me very, very happy.

:woohoo: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :woohoo:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

It doesn't take an indictment for that.

It's a reminder that no one man is (theoretically) above the law.

Basically, it's a reminder that we are a nation of laws, not Republicans.

too much idealism on politicians' pursuit of power)

I will be crying when Mr. Rove is led away from the White House in handcuffs for treason.

It's much sadder when crooked politicians just go along with their crooked "business as usual" and DON'T get indicted. Today is a good day.

Congress represents The People all too accurately. A corrupt Congress is a logical outcome of a corrupted and/or deluded society. Don't add a defensive piety to the delusiveness.

"America has no natural criminal class, except Congress." Mark Twain, ~1870. This is a country of a colonial economic system, it literally doesn't work without moral abuses and public lying and legalized corruption- because that is what colonialism simply is.

then get ready to put them in jail as a matter of course. What difference does any of it make anyway, the whole fucking world is just a pile of shit.

Better?

Let's level everything and pretend that there are no distinctions whatsoever.

Look, we live in a representative democracy. You denied the 'representative' part and I pointed out that it is sadly representative of a lot of Americans.

There's still the 'democracy' part, which gets the proportions of it right when The People decides the proportions are off.

identifiable leadership in the congress, since they form a sizable segment of the population.

which part of the word 'democracy' you appear to have so much difficulty with.

Are you saying that there's some group of people, aka 'criminals', that is somehow genuinely distinguishable from the population at large?