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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:07 PM
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Moral poverty....Anybody else sick of getting
these e-mails by family repubs?

By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:


What would you do?

What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform - legally and practically - fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin - the black Democrat who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."




One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now - the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty - not their material poverty - that cost them dearly in New Orleans. Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated - they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.


The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America."

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:09 PM
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1. I couldn't even finish reading...it's so fucking racist! n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:11 PM
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2. agreed, what a racist piece of CRAP! good grief! that's just sickening
:puke:
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:30 PM
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20. I only got about halfway through before I had to skip down to the posts...
What garbage.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:43 PM
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27. Neither could I
Un frigging believable. I quit after a few paragraphs. If I continued, I would have had to hit something.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:12 PM
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31. I bet this person hasn't been within ten feet of an evacuee
A Conservative friend of mine has, and when I asked her if they seemed to be poor (to get some ammo against the racists) she just about chewed my head off. As a Christian, she considers it make or break time. Put up or shut up. It was telling that she considered my question to be a Conservative's question. She thought I'd gone Conservative for a moment.

No, just faced with the same bullshit she'd been facing all week, and looking for more info to throw at some of the asshats.

She said there were all different kinds of folks. She said some were angry, some said thank you, some wanted to pay for the amenities that were offered at the Red Cross Center. I was proud of her for putting her faith to work. Others I've met wouldn't have.



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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:11 PM
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3. This Reptile, Sir
Ought to seek membership in the Ku Klux....
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:12 PM
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4. Is this guy for real? Most racists are too cowardly to openly express
themselves like that.
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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:25 PM
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18. As far as I know he is for real.
I cut copied and pasted the whole e-mail and then added the guys photo that wrote it. I guess you can look up his name on the web? Send him an e-mail.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:56 PM
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29. I don't want to email him. That's just inviting him to spew that trash in
my in box.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:35 PM
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23. He's black.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:12 PM
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5. Why do you get that crap? Who's list are you on?
nt
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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:16 PM
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8. My religious uncle sent it to me.
Here is a pic of the Rev Jesse Lee Peterson.

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:12 PM
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6. Where did you get that?
Sources? I'd like to know who's sending this out. :grr:
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tompayne1 Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:14 PM
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7. that is just wrong
i really don't have more to say.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:17 PM
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9. Yes I been getting them, too and I am totally sick of it
I have thought of debunking and responding but, I cannot get further than the first paragraph! Thinking of just replying back saying, "I no longer accept emails from racist people!"
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:18 PM
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10. Oh My Fucking God!
Yes, that was blashpemy. I didn't get past the two questions.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:18 PM
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11. He believes blacks were better off under segregation
Well, Rev., don't worry. There are plenty of people in this country who will help you to make that happen again.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:20 PM
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14. I would like to augment the functionality of e-mail
To support the digital bitchslap.
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really annoyed Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:19 PM
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12. Terrible....
:puke:


I swear, my friends better not send me this e-mail!!!

Do you plan on responding to this?
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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:22 PM
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15. I don't know If I will respond
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 09:23 PM by IN-dem
I have been just deleting anything he has been sending to me on the hurricanes and gods will and all that bull. I haven't been responding back to him.
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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:19 PM
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13. My uncle is trying to convince me
to turn to religion. So this is his way of pleading his case of what happens to sinful people.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:23 PM
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16. If my relatives sent me mail like this, I would really
tell them not to. I wouldn't care if they chose not to speak to me again.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:25 PM
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17. oh for the love of jesus
i can't believe this, ppl didn't get out because they didn't have fucking cars, they didn't have fucking cars because there are no fucking jobs in new orleans, if you don't know what you're talking abt i suggest you stop talking mr. jessee lee peterson

what the fuck is wrong w. people, excuse my french
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:30 PM
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19. Welfare pampered blacks?
What kind of weed is he smoking? How pampered can you be on $264 a month (the amount of welfare a parent with one child would get per month in Louisiana).

This guy is another Clarence Thomas, sounds like to me. "I got mine, the rest of you po' blacks is making me look bad."
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:31 PM
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21. Faith-based Bush $ for votes
Rev Jesse Lee Peterson, like Conleeza, are among those unusual individuals who are willing to take money to deceive and further hurt people of their own race or background.

In the case of Rev Jesse Lee Peterson we're talking about his income, a good deal of which probably comes from Bush's faith-based initiative (which, to my understanding, means our taxes land in the pockets of evangelical preachers so they can recruit more GOP voters).

I predict it won't be long before the holy-rolling Reverend goes the way of so many Republicans, when all of a sudden some woman shows up to collect long-overdue child support for a "love child."
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:34 PM
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22. I still haven't read it, but from what I understand, this kind of thing
Is popular in the new black Church, where men are largely absent.

You go in, and you see women and children. Where are the men? Well, listen to the preacher. "The Black man this! The black man nowadays that!" And the women love it, and they open their purses.

And then, when others use it at a racist attack and are confronted, they say, "but this came from a black man."

I wish I were a donor so I could go in the black forum.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:38 PM
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24. They DON'T even try to hide it anymore....
I got sick of listening to Randi playing that Bill Bennett shit over and over again.

"2.000 Buses" IF....They had all been functional, and IF they had enough drivers for them all (and i'd like to hear from a REAL school bus driver here just how "ANYONE can drive one of those")
AND if there had been enough fuel on board all of them (even if they had, say, 15 pumps. 10 minutes a bus, times 2000, divided by 15...)

AND even if they HAD gi=otten 'em running, drivered, fueled and loaded with people....
Anyone remember what the pictures of the World's Biggest Traffic Jam looked like trying to get the fuck out of Houston?

They're not even trying to hide it anymore. It's 1930 all over again...How long before the "Colored Only" signs start showing up?
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:40 PM
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25. Report them to *co's Spy-on-Your-Neighbor network, whatever it's called
They're obviously potential terrorists, spewing hate speech.

:puke:
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:41 PM
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26. Everyone should read this.
This is the exact racist garbage that is being mainlined into the veins of America, from coast to coast, 24/7.

This is the exact racist garbage heard on Limbaugh, Hannity (etc) and the "religious" stations.

This racist garbage IS the Story Line being promoted throughout the land, from sea to shining sea. Just because you might puke reading it doesn't mean that this story line isn't very, very popular and being promoted.

It was only yesterday that the Virtue Maven, Bill Bennett, said that the crime rate would decline if all black babies were aborted. Do you think these people are kidding? Do you think these people aren't racist to their marrow?

IN-dem, if the mailing list was included, then I suggest a reply to ALL who received this bilge. I did that once. My reply was direct but polite. One person queried why I replied and I said that I was just really sick of all the destructive lies. He agreed with me. I never got one of those mailings again. The sender knew I could not be trusted. hahaha.
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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:49 PM
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28. The reply to all says undisclosed receipents. Can I still reply to ALL?
Would it reach everybody? I am sure he sent this to my niece and other family members that are not going to be happy about it.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:20 PM
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32. Don't know (n/t)
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tamtam Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:05 PM
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30. LOL, How may of you would crap your pants
How many of you would crap your pants if you actually heard a black person spewing this crap on a message board or to your face? This is the face of the "black Republican" wing of the party. I've been on plenty of black message boards where the religious zealots spew this crap. They are relentless, cruel and would make a klan member blush. I noticed more of them have openly come out against their own race (and the human race) after Katrina. I guess if your accustomed to being lumped in with all black people you have to distinguish yourself somehow. I fear black people with this attitude more than I do a racist of a different shade. These people carry big sticks and some are well respected in the black community, especially the preachers. They have so much work ahead of them with Bush showing how much he looovves black people after Katrina. As we all can see damage control can be ugly and what better person to repair race relations than a preacher with a big mouth and an even bigger collection plate. :eyes:
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