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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:26 PM
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DON'T MISS THIS!!!! Have You SEEN The RIDICULOUS Niger Forgery????
Do you know Franklin is pleading guilty and copping a plea???? He was also involved in the Niger forgery docs and is the guy who passed secrets to AIPAC. This goes to the heart of the Neocon cabal.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/29/194828/282

Don't want this to get lost in the shuffle here tonight. This is pretty big too!!!

This ties directly in w/ Fitz investigation too, and it snowballs into one giant mega scandal.

These pics of the Niger forgery would be hilarious if not so serious and not so deadly.

http://911blimp.net/graphics/BogusNigerDocLogo+.gif
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:29 PM
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1. Just beautiful! This thing "fooled" the B*sh administration?
Bullshit, I say!

thx for finding the pic.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:45 PM
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13. Here is the Diary:
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 10:52 PM by Pirate Smile

BREAKING: NEO-CON LARRY FRANKLIN WILL PLEAD GUILTY Update: Niger Doc Seal!
by Sherlock Google
Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 16:48:28 PDT
This fellow worked at the DIA, and also worked directly under Wolfowitz and Feith as top Iran analyst for the Neo-Cons. He's cooperating with the FBI supposedly.

He's also associated with Michael Leeden.

Pentagon Analyst to Plead Guilty to Leak

There is a lot more to this, follow the links.

Sherlock Google's diary :: ::

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) -- A Pentagon analyst charged with providing classified information to an Israeli official and members of a pro-Israeli lobbying group planned to plead guilty to one or more charges, a court said Thursday.

Lawrence A. Franklin, 58, of Kearneysville, W.Va., was one of the Pentagon's policy experts on Iran and the Middle East. He was indicted in June on charges of disclosing national defense information to people not entitled to receive it, including two members of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. The indictment also alleges he leaked top secret information about two unidentified Middle Eastern officials to the media.

Franklin had previously pleaded innocent, but on Thursday a change of plea hearing was added to the court calendar for next Wednesday. A statement issued by the U.S. District Court clerk's office said Franklin ''is scheduled to plead guilty to a charge or charges'' but did not specify which.

Court records include no details about Franklin's plea; such details normally are not made public until the plea is officially entered.

Four of the five counts against Franklin carry a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison, and the fifth carries a sentence of up to five years.

Prosecutors declined comment, but a Justice Department official confirmed that a plea agreement was being negotiated. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because nothing has been filed with the court. Messages left Thursday with Franklin's lawyer, Plato Cacheris, were not immediately returned.

The two AIPAC officials who allegedly received the information, Steven Rosen of Silver Spring, Md., and Keith Weissman of Bethesda, Md., also have been charged with conspiring to obtain and disclose classified U.S. defense information. No plea hearings are scheduled in their cases.
...
According to the indictment, Franklin met periodically with Rosen and Weissman between 2002 and 2004 and discussed classified information, including information about potential attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq. Rosen and Weissman would subsequently share what they learned with reporters and Israeli officials. On at least one occasion, Franklin spoke directly to an Israeli official.
...
Rosen, a top lobbyist for Washington-based AIPAC for more than 20 years, and Weissman, the organization's top Iran expert, allegedly disclosed sensitive information as far back as 1999 on a variety of topics, including al-Qaida, terrorist activities in Central Asia, the bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia and U.S. policy in Iran, according to the indictment.

Franklin at one time worked for the Pentagon's No. 3 official, policy undersecretary Douglas Feith, on issues involving Iran and the Middle East. Weissman and Rosen saw Franklin as a potentially valuable source of information.

U.S. Attorney Paul McNulty, whose office is prosecuting the case, has said the three were motivated by the desire to advance their careers and their own foreign-policy agendas.

http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/001074.html

http://larry-franklin.biography.ms/

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7256

Update <2005-9-29 20:30:43 by Sherlock Google>: Larry Franklin was involved in the phony Niger docs used as an excuse by the neo-cons to start the war on Iraq. At least he went to Rome to a meeting with Leeden and there they received the obvious forgeries. From the Bellacio link above:

JANUARY 2001 BREAK-IN AT NIGER EMBASSY

At night, between the first and second of the January 2001, a mysterious thief came to the embassy of Niger in Rome and into the residence of the counselor in charge. It turned out that some letterhead and seals were missing. A second dossier on Niger-Iraq trade soon came into Martino's hands, one that included references to uranium trafficking. Martino claims he got it from embassy personnel and that he thought it was authentic.

Martino passed it on to the French secret service, who had paid for it, and also to Panorama , which assessed it by dispatching a female reporter to Niger. Panorama also turned the file over to the US Embassy in Rome for cross-checking in the US.

The female journalist soon told Martino that the trip to Niger had not produced any real confirmation, and also the French confirmed to Martino that the reports he had passed on to them were groundless. In other words, Bush’s war rationale was debunked way back in 2001 by amateur and professional sleuths.

Furthermore, it was a very amateurish forgery, not likely produced through official channels by any state intelligence agency with their vast resources. However, it was soon resuscitated as the Bush administration, in its first year, ramped up its public relations campaign for war.

ROME MEETING IN DECEMBER 2001

Michael Ledeen organized a meeting in Rome to gather evidence to support the planned war. Present were:

1. Michael Ledeen, Karl Rove's foreign policy advisor and organizer of the meeting

2. Nicolo Pollari, head of the the Italian equivalent of the CIA, the SISMI

3. Italy's Minister of Defense, Antonio Martino (no relation apparently to the spy Rocco Martino), Pollari's boss

4. Larry Franklin, an American who presently is being prosecuted in the US for giving classified information to an Israeli front group, AIPC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) -- which some would call "spying," even though he has not been charged with espionage

5. Harold Rhode: member of Dick Cheney's Office of Special Plans, protege of Ledeen, go-between with Iraqi exile and CIA asset (at the time) Ahmed Chalabi.

Ledeen already had a longstanding friendship with Francesco Pazienza, an Italian felon and forger who had been kicked out of the official Italian intelligence organization SISMI but who had found a new home in the renegade intelligence agency P-2 (Propaganda Due). Pazienza apparently was not present but definitely was known to Italian intelligence agents, including Rocco Martino, as well as to Ledeen.

Ledeen also was a personal friend of Pollari, who, like Ledeen, is a master of the card game bridge (Ledeen writes columns on it). There are close ties between Pollari's official intelligence organization, SISMI, and Pazienza's unnofficial one, P-2. In fact, P-2 recruits from SISMI.

This little group dusted off Martino's discredited second dossier on Iraq-Niger trade, with the uranium references. The Bush administration now had its causus belli.

CAUSUS BELLI: A PIECE OF CRAP

The accompanying figure shows a bit of the cobbled-up intelligence report on stolen letterheads, forged by amateurs -- most likely Ledeen's friend, Francesco Panzienza. This is the "evidence" on which George Bush sent almost two thousand young Americans and untold thousands of Iraqi civilians to their deaths.

SPRING 2002: JOE WILSON TO NIGER

Former US Ambassador (to Gabon) Joseph Wilson made the trip, apparently at the behest of the CIA, to determine the authenticity of the charges in Martino's documents, even though the CIA already could see they were forgeries. Even the Panorama reporter could have saved him the trouble. Wilson reported back to the CIA that there was no proof that Iraq had sought uranium in Niger. The US government knew there was no proof.

FALL 2002: USING THE CRAP

In London, Tony Blair spoke on September 24, 2002, for the first time on the attempts of Saddam Hussein to obtain uranium from Africa. Bush soon began to drive in the nail using the same argument. Remember, Martino had delivered the phony dossier this was based on to the US embassy in Rome over a year before. The US State Department and CIA rejected it and even Panorama had debunked it. The Pentagon, too, knew it was false, of course, but the Wolfowitz-Feith-Perle Defense Policy Board axis plus Bush and Cheney and their respective aides, Karl Rove and I. Lewis Libby (both now subjects of interest to US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and his grand jury in Washington, DC), went with it anyway.


Update <2005-9-29 22:8:23 by Sherlock Google>: Found a working link to show one and all the forged Niger doc and why it is such a LAUGHABLE Forgery. LOOK AT THE CORRECT SEAL IN COLOR AND THE ONE SOMEONE DREW!

This is why over 1,900 Americans are dead in Iraq. Never forget that my fellow Kossaks!
http://911blimp.net/graphics/BogusNigerDocLogo+.gif

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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:31 PM
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2. Nominated and I vote to IMPEACH a
fool who'd base America's safety, security, lives, treasure and reputation within the world on that piece of CRAP.

:kick:
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:32 PM
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3. Kick
Something is happening. Hope it's good.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:32 PM
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4. Nobody in the bush administration was fooled.
They just needed something to fool the Kool-Aid drinkers. (Doesn't take much, does it?)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:02 PM
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23. Sadly, No Straight Shooter.
Sure doesn't take much.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:32 PM
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5. Can you throw me a link to the Niger forgery? Here's more....
WaPo and others carrying it ...

Defense Analyst to Plead Guilty in Leak Case

By Jerry Markon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 29, 2005; 4:33 PM

A Defense Department analyst accused of passing government secrets to two employees of an influential pro-Israel lobbying group is scheduled to plead guilty next week, court officials announced today.

Lawrence A. Franklin, 58, will enter his plea in U.S. District Court in Alexandria Oct. 5, the court said. It is unclear what charge or charges he is planning to admit to, and any scheduled plea could collapse, even at the last minute.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20 ...



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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:33 PM
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6. It's The Kos Link
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 10:34 PM by Beetwasher
It's in the OP.

Thanks for the WP link! :thumbsup:

Damn, things are happening fast and furious!
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:56 PM
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18. I heard they were looking at files for
the Khobar towers bombing and classified reports of ambushes on our troops in Iraq. Does anyone know the details or if this is true?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:33 PM
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7. Uh oh...I think I know who did it...
My six year old son. :rofl:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:35 PM
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8. I'm Just Waiting For Them To Spin It By Saying "Wait! That Forgery is A
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 10:36 PM by Beetwasher
Forgery of the forgery!" Then cue Abbot and Costello.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:38 PM
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9. super kick and nominating...n/t
:kick:
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:38 PM
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10. And...
...they ripped Dan Rather for using "forged" documents to bolster his story on AWOLgate. He had to lose his job over it. But the Bushies use far more obvious forgeries to kill tens of thousands of people and destroy a country and he gets re-elected?

:puke:
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:39 PM
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11. What luck! I just got ahold of a translation of the letter!
It begins:


Dear Sir,

ASSISTANCE REQUIRED FOR ACQUISITION OF ESTATE

I write to inform you of my desire to acquire estates
or landed properties in your country on behalf of the
Director of Contracts and Finance Allocations of the
Federal Ministry of Works and Housing in Nigeria.

Considering his very strategic and influential
position, he would want the transaction to be as
strictly confidential as possible. He further wants
his identity to remain undisclosed at least for now,
until the completion of the transaction. Hence our
desire to have an overseas agent.

I have therefore been directed to inquire if you would
agree to act as our overseas agent in order to
actualize this transaction.

The deal, in brief, is that the funds with which we
intend to carry out our proposed investments in your
country is presently in a coded account at the
Nigerian Apex Bank (i.e. the Central Bank of Nigeria)
and we need your assistance to transfer the funds to
your country in a convenient bank account that will be
provided by you before we can put the funds into use in
your country. For this, you shall be
considered to have executed a contract for the Federal
Ministry of Works and Housing in Nigeria for which
payment should be effected to you by the Ministry, The
contract sum of which shall run into US$26.4 Million,
of which your share shall be 30% if you agree to be
our overseas agent.

As soon as payment is effected, and the amount
mentioned above is successfully transferred into your
account, we intend to use our own share in acquiring
some estates abroad. For this too you shall also serve
as our agent.

In the light of this, I would like you to forward to
me the following information:

1. Your company name and address if any
2. Your personal fax number
3. Your personal telephone number for easy
communication.

You are requested to communicate your acceptance of
this proposal through my above stated email address
after which we shall discuss in details the modalities
for seeing this transaction through.

Your quick response will be highly appreciated. Thank
you in anticipation of your cooperation.

Yours faithfully,
BIBI LUCKY.



I guess someone at the Bush White House didn't know the difference between Nigeria and Niger. :)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:40 PM
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12. LOL!
:thumbsup:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #11
21. Having seen so many like what you have provided here...
I can only say,

That's hysterical!!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:10 PM
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26. I actually got a few of these back then!
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:07 AM
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35. I get those at a rate of 2 or 3 a week.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:47 PM
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14. The same guy wrote this who writes those African spam letters, right?
The ones who say they need five thousand smackers from you so they can put 5 million into your bank account?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:48 PM
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15. And, it was well known to be a forgery before March 19, 2003 -- publicly
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 10:49 PM by understandinglife


March 18, 2003

MEMORANDUM FOR: The President

FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

SUBJECT: Forgery, Hyperbole, Half-Truth: A Problem

We last wrote you immediately after Secretary of State Powell's UN speech on February 5, in an attempt to convey our concerns that insufficient attention was being given to wider intelligence-related issues at stake in the conflict with Iraq. Your speech yesterday evening did nothing to allay those concerns. And the acerbic exchanges of the past few weeks have left the United States more isolated than at any time in the history of the republic and the American people more polarized.

Today we write with an increased sense of urgency and responsibility. Responsibility, because you appear to be genuinely puzzled at the widespread opposition to your policy on Iraq and because we have become convinced that those of your advisers who do understand what is happening are reluctant to be up front with you about it. As veterans of the CIA and other intelligence agencies, the posture we find ourselves in is as familiar as it is challenging. We feel a continuing responsibility to "tell it like it is"- or at least as we see it-without fear or favor. Better to hear it from extended family than not at all; we hope you will take what follows in that vein.

We cannot escape the conclusion that you have been badly misinformed. It was reported yesterday that your generals in the Persian Gulf area have become increasingly concerned over sandstorms. To us this is a metaphor for the shifting sand-type "intelligence" upon which your policy has been built.

Worse still, it has become increasingly clear that the sharp drop in US credibility abroad is largely a function of the rather transparent abuse of intelligence reporting and the dubious conclusions drawn from that reporting- the ones that underpin your decisions on Iraq.

Flashback to Vietnam

Many of us cut our intelligence teeth during the sixties. We remember the arrogance and flawed thinking that sucked us into the quagmire of Vietnam. The French, it turned out, knew better. And they looked on with wonderment at Washington's misplaced confidence-its single-minded hubris, as it embarked on a venture the French knew from their own experience could only meet a dead end. This was hardly a secret. It was widely known that the French general sent off to survey the possibility of regaining Vietnam for France after World War II reported that the operation would take a half-million troops, and even then it could not be successful.

Nevertheless, President Johnson, heeding the ill-informed advice of civilian leaders of the Pentagon with no experience in war, let himself get drawn in past the point of no return. In the process, he played fast and loose with intelligence to get the Tonkin Gulf resolution through Congress so that he could prosecute the war. To that misguided war he mortgaged his political future, which was in shambles when he found himself unable to extricate himself from the morass.

Quite apart from what happened to President Johnson, the Vietnam War was the most serious US foreign policy blunder in modern times.until now.

Forgery

In your state-of-the-union address you spoke of Iraq's pre-1991 focus on how to "enrich uranium for a bomb" and added, "the British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." No doubt you have now been told that this information was based on bogus correspondence between Iraq and Niger. Answering a question on this last week, Secretary Powell conceded-with neither apology nor apparent embarrassment-that the documents in question, which the US and UK had provided to the UN to show that Iraq is still pursuing nuclear weapons, were forgeries. Powell was short: "If that information is inaccurate, fine."

But it is anything but fine. This kind of episode inflicts serious damage on US credibility abroad-the more so, as it appears neither you nor your advisers and political supporters are in hot pursuit of those responsible. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts has shown little enthusiasm for finding out what went awry. Committee Vice-Chairman, Jay Rockefeller, suggested that the FBI be enlisted to find the perpetrators of the forgeries, which US officials say contain "laughable and child-like errors," and to determine why the CIA did not recognize them as forgeries. But Roberts indicated through a committee spokeswoman that he believes it is " inappropriate for the FBI to investigate at this point." Foreign observers do not have to be paranoid to suspect some kind of cover-up.

Who Did It? Who Cares!

Last week Wisconsin Congressman Dave Obey cited a recent press report suggesting that a foreign government might be behind the forgeries as part of an effort to build support for military action against Iraq and asked Secretary Powell if he could identify that foreign government. Powell said he could not do so "with confidence." Nor did he appear in the slightest interested.

We think you should be. In the absence of hard evidence one looks for those with motive and capability. The fabrication of false documentation, particularly what purports to be official correspondence between the agencies of two governments, is a major undertaking requiring advanced technical skills normally available only in a sophisticated intelligence service. And yet the forgeries proved to be a sloppy piece of work.

Chalk it up to professional pride by (past) association, but unless the CIA's capabilities have drastically eroded over recent years, the legendary expertise of CIA technical specialists, combined with the crudeness of the forgeries, leave us persuaded that the CIA did not craft the bogus documents. Britain's MI-6 is equally adept at such things. Thus, except in the unlikely event that crafting forgery was left to second-stringers, it seems unlikely that the British were the original source.

We find ourselves wondering if amateur intelligence operatives in the Pentagon basement and/or at 10 Downing Street were involved and need to be called on the carpet. We would urge you strongly to determine the provenance. This is not trivial matter. As our VIPS colleague (and former CIA Chief of Station) Ray Close has noted, "If anyone in Washington deliberately practiced disinformation in this way against another element of our own government or wittingly passed fabricated information to the UN, this could do permanent damage to the commitment to competence and integrity on which the whole American foreign policy process depends."

The lack of any strong reaction from the White House feeds the suspicion that the US was somehow involved in, or at least condones, the forgery. It is important for you to know that, although credibility-destroying stories like this rarely find their way into the largely cowed US media, they do grab headlines abroad among those less disposed to give the US the benefit of the doubt. As you know better than anyone, a year and a half after 9/11 the still traumatized US public remains much more inclined toward unquestioning trust in the presidency. Over time that child-like trust can be expected to erode, if preventive maintenance is not performed and hyperbole shunned.


Hyperbole

The forgery aside, the administration's handling of the issue of whether Iraq is continuing to develop nuclear weapons has done particularly severe damage to US credibility. On October 7 your speechwriters had you claim that Iraq might be able to produce a nuclear weapon in less than a year. Formal US intelligence estimates, sanitized versions of which have been made public, hold that Iraq will be unable to produce a nuclear weapon until the end of the decade, if then. In that same speech you claimed that "the evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program"-a claim reiterated by Vice President Cheney on Meet the Press on March 16.

Reporting to the UN Security Council in recent months, UN chief nuclear inspector Mohammed ElBaradei has asserted that the inspectors have found no evidence that Iraq has reconstituted its nuclear weapons program. Some suspect that the US does have such evidence but has not shared it with the UN because Washington has been determined to avoid doing anything that could help the inspections process succeed. Others believe the "evidence" to be of a piece with the forgery-in all likelihood crafted by Richard Perle's Pentagon Plumbers. Either way, the US takes a large black eye in public opinion abroad.

Then there are those controversial aluminum tubes which you have cited in major speeches as evidence of a continuing effort on Iraq's part to produce nuclear weapons. Aside from one analyst in the CIA and the people reporting to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, there is virtually unanimous agreement within the intelligence, engineering, and scientific communities with ElBaradei's finding that "it was highly unlikely" that the tubes could have been used to produce nuclear material. It is not enough for Vice President Cheney to dismiss ElBaradei's findings. Those who have followed these issues closely are left wondering why, if the vice president has evidence to support his own view, he does not share it with the UN.

Intelligence Scant

In your speech yesterday evening you stressed that intelligence "leaves no doubt that the Iraqi regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." And yet even the Washington Post, whose editors have given unswerving support to your policy on Iraq, is awash with reports that congressional leaders, for example, have been given no specific intelligence on the number of banned weapons in Iraq or where they are hidden. One official, who is regularly briefed by the CIA, commented recently that such evidence as does exist is "only circumstantial." Another said he questioned whether the administration is shaping intelligence for political purposes. And, in a moment of unusual candor, one senior intelligence analyst suggested that one reason why UN inspectors have had such trouble finding weapons caches is that "there may not be much of a stockpile."

Having backed off suggestions early last year that Iraq may already have nuclear weapons, your administration continues to assert that Iraq has significant quantities of other weapons of mass destruction. But by all indications, this is belief, not proven fact. This has led the likes of Thomas Powers, a very knowledgeable author on intelligence, to conclude that " the plain fact is that the Central Intelligence Agency doesn't know what Mr. Hussein has, if anything, or even who knows the answers, if anyone."

This does not inspire confidence. What is needed is candor-candor of the kind you used in one portion of your speech on October 7. Just two p aragraphs before you claimed that Iraq is "reconstituting" its nuclear weapons program, you said, "Many people have asked how close Saddam Hussein is to developing a nuclear weapon. Well, we don't know exactly, and that's the problem."

True, candor can weaken a case that one is trying to build. We are reminded of a remarkable sentence that leapt out of FBI Director Mueller's testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee on February 11-a sentence that does actually parse, but nonetheless leaves one scratching one's head. Mueller: " The greatest threat is from al-Qaeda cells in the US that we have not yet identified."

This seems to be the tack that CIA Director Tenet is taking behind closed doors; i.e., the greatest threat from Iraq is the weapons we have not yet identified but believe are there.

It is not possible to end this section on hyperbole without giving Oscars to Secretaries Rumsfeld and Powell, who have outdone themselves in their zeal to establish a connection between Iraq and al-Qaeda. You will recall that Rumsfeld described the evidence-widely recognized to be dubious-as " bulletproof," and Powell characterized the relationship as a "partnership!" Your assertion last evening that "the terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed" falls into the same category. We believe it far more likely that our country is in for long periods of red and orange color codes.

Half-Truth

Here we shall limit ourselves to one example, although the number that could be adduced is legion.

You may recall that a Cambridge University analyst recently revealed that a major portion of a British intelligence document on Iraq had been plagiarized from a term paper by a graduate student in California—information described by Secretary Powell to the UN Security Council as “exquisite” intelligence. That same analyst has now acquired from the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) the transcript of the debriefing of Iraqi Gen. Hussein Kamel, son-in-law of Saddam Hussein, who defected in 1995.

Kamel for ten years ran Iraq’s nuclear, chemical, biological, and missile development programs, and some of the information he provided has been highly touted by senior US policymakers, from the president on down. But the transcript reveals that Kamel also said that in 1991 Iraq destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. This part of the debriefing was suppressed until Newsweek ran a story on it on February 24, 2003.

We do not for a minute take all of what Kamel said at face value. Rather we believe the Iraqis retain some chemical and biological warfare capability. What this episode suggests, though, is a preference on the part of US officials to release only that information that supports the case they wish to make against Iraq.

In Sum

What conclusions can be drawn from the above? Simply that forgery, hyperbole, and half-truths provide a sandy foundation from which to launch a major war.

Equally important, there is danger in the temptation to let the conflict with Iraq determine our attitude toward the entire gamut of foreign threats with which you and your principal advisers need to be concerned. Threats to US security interests must be prioritized and judged on their own terms. In our judgment as intelligence professionals, there are two are real and present dangers today.

1-- The upsurge in terrorism in the US and against American facilities and personnel abroad that we believe would inevitably flow from a US invasion of Iraq. Concern over this is particularly well expressed in the February 26 letter from FBI Special Agent Coleen Rowley to Director Mueller, a letter well worth your study.

2-- North Korea poses a particular danger, although what form this might take is hard to predict. Pyongyang sees itself as the next target of your policy of preemption and, as its recent actions demonstrate, will take advantage of US pre-occupation with Iraq both to strengthen its defenses and to test US and South Korean responses. Although North Korea is economically weak, its armed forces are huge, well armed, and capable. It is entirely possible that the North will decide to mount a provocation to test the tripwire provided by the presence of US forces in South Korea. Given the closeness of Seoul to the border with the North and the reality that North Korean conventional forces far outnumber those of the South, a North Korean adventure could easily force you to face an abrupt, unwelcome decision regarding the use of nuclear weapons—a choice that your predecessors took great pains to avoid.

We suggest strongly that you order the Intelligence Community to undertake, on an expedited basis, a Special National Intelligence Estimate on North Korea, and that you defer any military action against Iraq until you have had a chance to give appropriate weight to the implications of the challenge the US might face on the Korean peninsula.

/s/

Richard Beske, San Diego
Kathleen McGrath Christison, Santa Fe
William Christison, Santa Fe
Patrick Eddington, Alexandria, VA
Raymond McGovern, Arlington, VA

Steering Group
Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

Released to the public on March 19, 2003 by CommonDreams:
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0319-08.htm



Peace.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:52 PM
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16. Freepers will be working overtime
To prove that all official emblems in Niger are drawn by eight-year-olds in crayon.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:55 PM
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17. Sure it's crude, but it's Niger, one of the poorest countries in the world
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 11:11 PM by tuvor
I wouldn't be surprised if their legitimately photocopied/faxed documents looked just as unsophisticated.

Is there something legitimate to compare it to?

dailykos doesn't quite make the case until then.

Sorry to poop on the party, but in the end we all know it was forged regardless, which is the main thing.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:58 PM
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19. You have GOT to be kidding...
I speak enough French to know how silly this is.

Roughly translated;

"I have the honor of (provision of reference {?}) Concerning the furnishing of uranium, signed {on} July 6th, 2000 between the Government of The Republic of Niger and the Government of Iraq by their {respective official delegates}."

My French may not be very good, but this document appears to be translated from English to French.

Either way... It's sloppy enough to be written by a 6 year old French child.
(Otherwise it wouldn't be THAT easy for me)
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:58 PM
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20. We need to impeach AIPAC.
It does not represent anything more than a lobby for militarism, in defense of occupation and dispossession of a people from their homes.

When will Democrats get the message?
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:02 PM
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22. Damn! That's as bad as those spam e-mails you get all the time
You know, the ones where some Nigerian Prince promises to deposit a huge sum of money in your account if you just provide him with some of your personal info. Puh-leeze...:eyes:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:03 PM
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24. Kicked & Nominated
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:05 PM
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25. Too late to get into this tonight. Bookmarking for tomorrow. n/t
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:11 PM
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27. Assholes. An entire government run by assholes.
Even a bad zerox couldn't account for that "official" letterhead mess. I agree with the poster up thread, except a 6 year old would stay within the lines better.

Perhaps they let blivet** do the drawing himself ... before they bought him a crayon sharpener.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:14 PM
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28. Government of assholes, by assholes, for assholes
Damn, Skippy, wish I had a bumper for that one. ;)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:16 PM
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29. Can someone explain how this may fit into the picture?

www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=nico


The Bush administration sends two defense officials, Harold Rhode and Larry Franklin, to meet with Iranians in Rome in response to an Iranian government offer to provide information relevant to the war on terrorism. The offer had been backchanneled by the Iranians to the White House through Manucher Ghorbanifar, an Iranian arms trader and a central person in the Iran-Contra affair, who contacted another Iran-Contra figure, Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute. Ledeen passed the information on to his friends in the Defense Department who then relayed the offer to National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley. Hadley expressed no reservations about the proposed meeting and informed George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, and Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage. According to officials interviewed by the New York Times, the United States Embassy in Rome was not notified of the planned meeting as required by standard interagency procedures. Neither the US embassy nor CIA station chief in Rome learns of the three-day meeting until after it happens (see December 12, 2001). When they do catch wind of the meeting, they notify CIA and State Department headquarters in Washington which complain to the administration about how the meetings were arranged. In addition to Ghorbanifar, Ledeen, Franklin, and Rhode, the meeting is attended by Nicolo Pollari, head of SISMI, and Antonio Martino, Italy's minister of defense. According to the Boston Globe, either at this meeting, a similar one in June (see June 2002), or both, Ledeen and Ghorbanifar discuss ways to destabilize the Iranian government, possibly using the Mujahedeen-e Khalq, a US-designated terrorist group, as a US proxy.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:23 PM
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30. Another Diary on Kos to add to the mix:
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 11:35 PM by Pirate Smile

Judy Miller the Second Most Important Plame Development Today

by pontificator
Thu Sep 29th, 2005 at 20:36:54 PDT
The most important?

Larry Franklin pled guilty to violations of the Espionage Act.

This has got to have Rove, Libby, and the other members of the White House Iraq Group quaking in their boots.

UCLA Professor of Policy Studies Mark A.R. Kleiman explains:

pontificator's diary :: ::

"More bad news for Rove, Libby, et al.: Lawrence Franklin has agreed to plead guilty to leaking classfied information to two AIPAC staff members.

Why do I say that's bad news for the folks who outed Valerie Plame Wilson? Because Franklin was indicted under the Espionage Act (specifically 18 U.S.C. 793 (d)) for giving classified information to those not eligible to receive it, including members of the media.

No money involved, no inteligence identities. And Franklin is pleading out. Looks to me as if the
Espionage Act is still alive, and as if it applies squarely to the facts of the Plame case."

The Intelligence Identities Protection Act has always been a red herring. Rove, Libby and company could go down under the same statute used against the Rosenbergs, Aldrich Ames, and Robert Hansenn.

Oh yeah -- and we still haven't seen the classified CIA Damage Assessment Report on the Plame leak. If the leak led to overseas WMD sources being outed and killed, then, under the Espionage Act, this could be a death penalty case.

Update <2005-9-29 23:57:27 by pontificator>: See this regarding the death penalty under the Espionage Act. It appears to me that, to get the death penalty, Fitzgerald would have to prove that the wrongdoer acted with "intent or reason to believe that is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation." That could be a difficult, although not necessarily impossible, burden in the Plame case. The more likely scenario perhaps would be indictments under 18 USC 793(d) of the Espionage Act, which was used against Franklin and which carries a ten year prison sentence.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/29/233654/349

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:56 AM
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31. Things Are Happening Fast and Furious
It's hard to keep up!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:11 AM
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32. It's ALL connected
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:49 AM
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33. OMG!!!!......Did Barbara Bush draw this phoney seal?
A two year old could draw better.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:04 AM
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34. I've been spending the last month putting together
a double DVD set which I did a trailer for on Takebackthemedia.com about ALL THIS.

The film I've created is 2 and half hours long (that's why it fits on TWO DVDS) and I expect to wrap it up and ship it after this weekend - I'm late with it but I wanted to make sure it's topped off, included a Chronology, and little side trips, exactly like these forgeries and WHO was there..

I don't think anyone included the original Iranian that started the Iran/Contra scene during the 80s, his name is hard for me to pull out of my head at 5am here in my time zone, but HE was pulling some wild shit in that room as well..

The Govt officials were complaining that these right wing nuts were flying in and not even notifying them, just the 2Pac splinter CIA group that culls people from SISMA, their CIA.. Rhodes is a COMPLETE ANIMAL, telling anyone that resembles a muslim to sit down and shut up, because we are just going to blow people like YOU up from now on - works/worked with Feith who's going to get screwed Next if he isn't already..

The tie ins and cross refs between ALL these Bushites is AMAZING - all corrupt, and I think they'll all get caught in the end, TOO corrupt and STUPID as you can see from the forgery..

I thought something was fishy when I found that just about the time Bush was being inaugurated Rove's (actually Rhodes and Feiths "plumbers" were breaking into the Niger Embassy and stealing LETTERHEADS (also a bottle of cheap perfume, and a watch) - this didn't sound like ordinary theives who will take the fucking computer..

they wanted THOSE LETTERHEADS for a reason - always wondered who done this -- "Ledeen already had a longstanding friendship with Francesco Pazienza, an Italian felon and forger" ==

Anyone find me a picture of Harold Rhodes? I've got just about everyone else for my film but not him, or Fietz from Bolton's office, he's not around in pic form either..

I'll be announcing the shipping date of "Rove's War" soon and getting Skinner's permission hopefully to use the DU to fund raise for Takebackthemedia.com with my film..

It's a hard core Political junky chunk O' Meat for those that want to KNOW what the fuck is going on = I'll have 99% of it in the film, been doing TONS of research..

These guys are like a legion of evil squids with tentacles in every pie in the world, so if guys like Fitz just start slashing away they'll be able to follow the trail of squid ink, get some to talk, Like Miller - maybe she and Libby should be outsourced to Egypt so we get the real story (kidding Mr Gonzales, tho I'm sure you'd dig it you sick puppy..)..

Hold on to your hats, this is going to be a fun ride - and I want to see LIFE SENTENCES for a LOT of people if not the death penalty for SPYING/Espionage..

Great post, good to see others doing the same research,

We've got them on the run..
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:07 AM
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36. Dude, You ROCK!
Love ya man! :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see the finished product!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:16 AM
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37. Lol
thanks! Even wrote and performed a song at the end, to the Tune of "Secret Agent Man" only it's "Secret Agent Plame", new words all played by yours truly..

I think I'll release the song to get some folks interested in the DVD set, maybe send it to Al Franken, they like satirical songs, and I think it may be good enough for a lot of people to get interested in the film..

"Secret Agent Plame, Secret Agent Plame,

Rove's taken 'way yo' number - and given 'way yo' name.."

Got some ripping leads on it too :)

The dvds will definately be what I'd consider the ultimate guide, the media has it all balled up so I tried to untangle it and ad FACTS and silly things like that..

Keep posting this stuff, most people haven't even seen the forgeries, they're actually hilarious if they hadn't caused so much death.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:46 PM
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39. Sounds like a great project. (nt)
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:01 AM
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38. When you look at through the bleary eyes of an alcoholic
Sure the symbols look alike. Hell, it looks like a drunk drew the "crest".



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