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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:34 AM
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URGENT! 2-minute action item to save our elections - deadline today!
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 10:36 AM by garybeck
NOW IS THE TIME!!! We have only a few hours to help ensure that every American vote will be counted in the 2008 election and beyond. The Federal Election Assistance Commission closes the public comment period on their proposed Voluntary Voting System Guidelines at 5 p.m. TODAY.

Please send the following phrase or whatever you would like to express on the proposed guidelines immediately to votingsystemguidelines@eac.gov . Many technical people are submitting detailed comments, but we learned yesterday that governments around the world are WATCHING to see what America – YOU – think.



“I want Section 6.8 to require a voter-verified paper audit trail for ALL voters and voting systems. It should be mandatory.”


more:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=395247&mesg_id=395247
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:38 AM
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1. Great catch!
:kick:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:38 AM
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2. done.
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:41 AM
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3. Done and kick. n/t
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:42 AM
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4. Done
:kick: Thanks.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:55 AM
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5. Let's see if we can rate this thread up.
:kick:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:00 AM
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7. Also done! need one more! n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:06 PM
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23. ITS ALREADY ON GREATEST!!!!!!!!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:09 PM
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25. ITS ALREADY ON THE GREATEST PAGE..JUST KICK IT!!
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 12:21 PM by flyarm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=greatest_threads


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We have 36 hours to help ensure that every American vote will be counted
35 votes : flyarm
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:59 AM
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6. Done! Kick n/t
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:02 AM
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8. Thanks, garybeck!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:05 AM
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9. Done. n/t
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:11 AM
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10. recommended, emailed, and kicked
n/t
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:12 AM
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11. Here's the web site:
http://guidelines.kennesaw.edu/vvsg/intro.asp

Reproducing the text in full, since it's from a govt. website and therefore public domain:

The Voluntary Voting System Guidelines were developed under the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA) Section 202 mandate that the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) update the 2002 Voting System Standards to address increasingly complex voting system technology. They were designed for state and local election officials to help ensure that new voting systems function accurately and reliably.

The Guidelines are provided for a 90 day public comment period which officially began June 29, 2005 upon notice in the Federal Register. All comments must be received by EAC on or before 5:00 p.m. EDT on September 30, 2005. All comments will be posted on the EAC website. Comments may also be sent to votingsystemguidelines@eac.gov or by fax to Voting System Guidelines Comments at (202) 566-3127. <<snip: deleting the part about mailing comments in since it's too late to snail-mail comments>> The Guidelines are also available in hard copy format or on CD-ROM. Call EAC at (866) 747-1471 or (202) 566-3100 to request a copy or for more information.

At the conclusion of the public comment period and after the consideration of comments received, EAC commissioners will vote to approve the Voluntary Voting System Guidelines. The final version will be made available to the public at that time.


Off the subject...does anybody know why this information is being hosted at Kennesaw State University, a Georgia state institution in Cobb County (NW of Atlanta, home territory to both Newt Gingrich and Julia Roberts)?
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:19 AM
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12. Done. I added that ALL votes should be counted by hand.
Tabulation by any other means is not acceptable.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:22 AM
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13. take this and RUN with it!
Let's cross - post to everybody..
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:24 AM
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14. Nominated! Emailed! Done! nt
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Debbi801 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:26 AM
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15. Done
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:27 AM
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16. Done, kick, n/t
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:27 AM
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17. done......eom
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:28 AM
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18. Done. n/t
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:35 AM
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19. Done, and nominated. n/t
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:37 AM
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20. done - nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:54 AM
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21. Done.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:59 AM
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22. Done
da done done done!
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:06 PM
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24. Thanks for the reminder
Done
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:09 PM
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26. Done n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:16 PM
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27. another little kick
:kick:
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:17 PM
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28. done, hope it helps!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:29 PM
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29. I sent this
Section 6.8 should require a mandatory voter-verified legitimate paper record for all voters and voting systems, and the voting machines should be open to public scrutiny. No "industrial secrets" when it comes to the inner workings of our elections.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:41 PM
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30. did it yesterday!
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:42 PM
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31. done. eom
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:19 PM
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32. done and kick--thanks Gary! n/t
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MsLeopard Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:48 PM
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33. Done and kicked EOM
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:52 PM
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34. Done, kicked, and recommended.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:56 PM
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35. Done. (n/t)
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cappy Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:17 PM
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36. done
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:20 PM
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37. I had to do it twice
apparently my first one did not count, because of some electronic glitch.
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MamaBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:20 PM
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38. Done.
Thanks for the heads-up.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:25 PM
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39. done
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:25 PM
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40. Done!
kick!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:37 PM
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41. Done! Thanks, Gary!!!!
Dear EAC:

America’s election system has been hijacked by partisan corporations who insist on “trade secret,” proprietary programming code in their contracts with states for electronic voting systems, and has been additionally compromised by lack of a real paper ballot for recounts and audits, and in many cases, no “paper trail” of any kind, by inadequate automatic recounts and audits, by lavish lobbying (such as occurred at the Beverly Hilton this August*), and by lack of controls on these extremely insecure and hackable electronic systems, including a lack of independent exit polls as used in many other countries to verify elections and check for fraud. The one set of exit polls we had in 2004 were doctored late on election day to fit the results of Diebold’s and ES&S’s “trade secret” vote tabulation, thus depriving the American public of evidence of election fraud (that John Kerry won the exit polls). This is a practice that other democracies would find intolerable, as they would secret, proprietary programming code and no paper ballot backup for recounts.

We need...

1. Paper ballots hand-counted at the precinct level (--Canada does it in one day, although speed should not even be a consideration, just accuracy and verifiability)

or, at the least...

2. Paper ballot (not "paper trail") backup of all electronic voting, a 10% automatic recount, very strict security, and NO SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code!

Our election system has become non-transparent, and our elections have become unverifiable, with the onset of the electronic voting boondoggle. These machines should be dumped into “Boston Harbor,” just like the English tea of old. Non-transparent, unverifiable elections are tyranny! They are its very definition. And transparent, verifiable elections are a no-brainer. Not difficult. If you, and Diebold, and ES&S, and the Bush regime, and the War Democrats, had wanted an honest election in 2004, we would have had one. Clearly, that is not what was intended.

------

*Please see the following post at Democratic Underground for a description of the week of fun, sun and high-ending shopping that was provided for election officials from around the country, at the Beverly Hilton this August, with sponsors including Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia. The lavish lobbying and “revolving door” employment in the electronic voting industry is disgraceful:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

Yours sincerely,

xxxx

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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:49 PM
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42. Done.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:50 PM
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43. Done
Twice
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political_invader Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:52 PM
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44. Done nt
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:14 PM
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45. Done!
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:50 PM
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46. Done and thanks for the heads-up (nft)
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 03:50 PM by AbbyR
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:53 PM
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47. Done
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:07 PM
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48. drive by kick. Thank you, Gary
:kick:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:00 PM
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49. Kick
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