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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:32 AM
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Rahm Emanuel is smacking russert around on MTP.....
staying on target...not letting russert change the subject
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:34 AM
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1. summary please
Thanks!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:35 AM
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2. He's afraid to say "culture of corruption" again!
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:42 AM
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4. emanuel was peppering his talk with that phrase.....
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:48 AM
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13. Nah, he said, "Culture of corruption" only once, blanched and
added "and cronyism." From then on it became "culture of cronyism."
I applaud his initial rourage but decry his lapse into the pressure from the corrupt, lieing bastard sitting beside him.
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:39 AM
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3. started out by talking about delay......
emanuel talking about how delay was dirty...the ethics violations etc...how earle had prosecuted more dems than pubs...delay will have his day in court.....

talked about a viable plan for iraq.....russerts kept trying to sidetrack him. the republican counterparts head looked like it was going to explode...so did russerts.....both of their voices raised.....it was almost funny.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:57 AM
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5. 'want some cheese to go with that whine, tim?'
hahahahaha! fukking russert. his grasping hoary old man spawned a real loser, a traitor and a vicious little sneak thief! SHAME ON THEM OLD BASTARDS! (who spawned the tim russerts/rush limbah-humbugs, bill owhorelys, john gibsons, rupert murdocks and tom brocawcaws etc ad nazism)
besides, the nazis won the 2nd world war on nov 7/00, dec12/00 and sept11th/01...3 battles we never even knew we were fighting! (which makes the gopig victory rather an empty bag, no?)
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:45 AM
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6. Rahm reminded me of a little kid who runs home, bursting with
excitement to tell his mom about something that happened. Too many thoughts - just couldn't spit them out.

I think Rahm had the ammunition, but he needed to be more focused on relating a handful of succinct messages, instead of trying to use the minute allotted to cram in every thought he ever had.

Otherwise, better than most democrats on MTP...
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:55 AM
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7. My thoughts exactly.
If Rahm could have been a little calmer, and projected a little more, he would've done great. Seemed too much like he was mumbling his answers.

Still, I really liked the idea of turning the DeLay indictment into a call for Congress-wide lobbying and ethics reform. Haven't heard anyone put that out there quite so clearly, and I hope the Democrats run with it. It's a real winner for them if they can stick with it.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:52 PM
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15. I agree. Still, Rahm won the debate against the Rethugs.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:14 AM
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10. Oh, I thought he did great
He was up against a total blowhard and made him look like the petty little partisan that he is.

How about the Republican blaming the deficit on Katrina? I was cracking up.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:04 AM
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8. Timmy gets so nervous everytime he can't make the Bushbots look
good or the Dems bad.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:08 AM
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9. Damn I slept through most of it.
But I'm about ready to turn timmy off for good. He is a repuke shill

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uncertainty1999 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:28 AM
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11. "This might come as news to you (Tim), but web sites don't indict.'
Good one, Rahm, especially after Russert's tantrum last week re: Broussard.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:42 AM
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12. Timmy is looking at a tide that is turning


Interesting that two weeks in a row, he got PUNCHED!

I'm sure he didn't see this one coming. He probably told ROVE that he "had this one covered."


The horse is out of the barn now!


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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 12:31 PM
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14. I thought he did great.
Edited on Sun Oct-02-05 12:33 PM by Jim__
The repubs accuse dems of not having ideas, Rahm laid out 5 new ideas for running the country. The repub couldn't respond. Rahm challenged the repub to join the dems in containing the power of the lobbyists. The repub couldn't respond.

Rahm showed energy and ideas. He made russert and the other repub look like they were sleeping.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 02:25 PM
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16. I'm sorry...I don't think the ideas he talked about are effective...
for the campaign we need against this bunch of Repubicans. We have made the mistake every election I can recall in recent years of putting out a list of ideas to turn our country around and the Repubs have turned it on its head with their personal attacks and simple messages. I think that is another recipe for disaster. We need to rescue Social Security from this band of radicals. We need to bring spending under control. We need a sensible immigration policy. We need a fair tax system. We need competent people leading our government. We need to throw out the crooks that are in government for their own personal gain. We don't need to get into details or explain in policy papers how to get everyone a college education, etc. It doesn't work.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:05 AM
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18. Kentuck - I totally agree with your points. I think it all goes back
to Clinton and maybe a little of Perot. They started the "detail" approach. Somehow we seem to get caught between a rock and a hard place with this. If you get into too much detail - you lose the big picture messages. If you don't get into detail - they come back with "Ya, how you going to pay for that" Or "How are you going to execute that." It is a fine line. Too bad we haven't learned these two phrases.

But, yes, I think we need some clear, simple messages. But they need to have a common theme that reasonates. The theme also needs to pull at people's heart strings - their gut reaction to what is fair and just. For instance, "The democrats care about the little people." And then tie all the initiatives that prove that to that theme. Then reiterate all the things that republicans did against the little people as contrast. I would add "The democrats care about peace in this world." You could do this by recalling back to a time, when there was relative peace in the world and when we were respected. I, myself long for the days when I was proud of my country. You'd have to have some better, stronger slogans than mine, but maybe you get my point.

I just wish that someone would hire DU to put together a platform or campaign strategy. I believe, together we could rock the world.

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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:15 AM
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19. The repubs are going to attack anything the Dems say
To accept that as a reason not to make an argument is to accept total silence as the dems best argument. Attack repub ideas and they're going to claim you have no ideas of your own.

Emanuel was energetic and forceful and slammed down every attempted answer by either russert or the other guest. Keeping silent or fearing the response of the repubs is not the way to win. The way to win is to shut the repubs up with better ideas and stating those ideas more forcefully than the repubs can state theirs. Emanuel did that.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:45 AM
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20. "is to accept total silence as the dems best argument."
You hit upon their secret strategy and they are doing their absolute best to follow through on it.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 02:32 PM
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17. I'm glad he reminded them of the "contract with America"
"Breech of contract" I believe were his words. I loved that one.
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