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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 07:59 PM Original message |
OMG! "SHOOT FIRST" Policy in Florida?? WTF?? |
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Dem Agog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. you're surprised? |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This went over my head completely |
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Dem Agog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. yeah that happens... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Let me tell you, it's already had an impact in my home. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. omg.. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Jeb is a horrid, disgusting pig beast... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. Republican Birth/Population Control |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. My son just pointed out that Florida is even shaped like a gun. |
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Child_Of_Isis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. Nervous? |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. Can you say "propaganda"? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. At the very least.. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Do you know that some states recognize "natural, inherent and inalienable |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
170. The "culture of life" don't ya know....property is worth more than life. |
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KatyaR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
174. Well, we already know property is more important than life. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. I bet this one goes to a court...n/t |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. People, this is bad. VERY bad. |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. It seems nobody here has read the law. It is a CASTLE LAW. |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Dang you beat me to that word |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yeah, if we all carried guns and could shoot the people that scare us |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. renie before you get all upset and loose sleep why don't you find the |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:50 PM Original message |
"FindLaw" is a Republican group? How do you know that? |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. Why do cops carry guns? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Because policemen are required by their JOB DESCRIPTION |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
105. I guess you had too much frothy spittle flying up on the screen... |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. yeah, well, that is way more your wife or girlfriend's problem than it is |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:44 PM Response to Reply #115 |
121. Nope, it's still there. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
203. Deleted message |
walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. This is a little different than a concealed carry law |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. This law does not increase the number of legally carried weapons |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I never said it did... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
72. You are correct, you never said it did - I screwed up and put my |
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MojoXN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 08:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
168. "I'm still waiting for those blood baths and wild west shootouts" |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. NO, please read the link above... |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. This is the bill. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 01:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
160. Where do you drive your car, if not the streets? |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. NOT thinking about a Florida vacation... |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. Can you feel the F33R... |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. "Don't do the crime"???? What crime is that? Which crimes are covered? |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Link to that story? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. LOL...I hate to tell you, |
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_Loki_ (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Kneejerk often? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. If I could find the damn link |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #47 |
172. She did get away with it. |
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_Loki_ (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #172 |
205. If we are to get in to posting hypotheticals... |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #172 |
226. Easy, wait and see. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. "people like you really make me sick"! Well get sick, I'll get even. nt |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. What? Are you going to SHOOT me?? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Now you know I didn't say that. I won't try to force you to keep and bear |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. How, then , did you plan to get even? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. You say "Yes, I choose to submit to criminals. " Have a nice life. n/t |
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sierrajim (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
116. When you choose to submit is more than likely when you die |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
152. So you obviously never lived in a city |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. The particular shooting would STILL be criminal. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. No, this law says that you can pretty much shoot anybody anywhere |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. It ain't that simple. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. My friend, what does THIS mean? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Notice the change in your reading to support your hysteria. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. Once it becomes a legal issue to determine whether or not the fear |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. The self defense laws are pretty much the same in every state. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
113. I dunno |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
171. Sorry renie, |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #171 |
210. It's not very wise, that's for sure, |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #171 |
214. Great way to get shot in broad daylight too. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
92. Well, you could be shopping in a local auto parts store... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
124. Not OK to hit the clerk. |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #124 |
144. Checking background is the most important part of using a gun. |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
228. It's interesting |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
22. Please read the actual law below, it simply codifies a natural, inherent |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Exactly. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'll |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. I would think THIS would be the part that could cause some trouble |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. On the other hand innocent people might be saved. That's the essence of |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. I honestly don't have a problem with self-defense |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
80. If you choose not to defend your self, have fun but that's not what the FL |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Have you read it? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. Still distorting the law. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. I said "or the threat of criminals in other places". Can you read? n/t |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:30 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. Yes, and normally pretty well |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. This law doesn't just cover someone in their home. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. I said "or the threat of criminals in other places". Can you read? n/t |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. It carries a LOT of legal weight. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
157. People are going to get shot regardless of the law |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. Florida is a much safer place now |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #23 |
154. I don't consider anyplace to be safe where it's necessary to |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #154 |
159. Who is saying that its necessary? |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. Oh, we even have a new propsed bill to make us less safe |
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ebal (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. You mean make criminals less safe? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. I see no problem with that law. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. Keep your gun. You are in more danger from it than anyone else, anyway. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Those are distorted statistics. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
102. Why do you need a gun, then? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:42 PM Response to Reply #102 |
119. I have been a crime victim before. |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #73 |
176. just because you are a 'good driver'.... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #68 |
158. Do you think AIDS is "god's little joke" on gay men? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 06:27 AM Response to Reply #158 |
166. Jeez... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #166 |
180. You missed the point, of course. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
173. Heres where you and i will disagree. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #173 |
207. I had to think this one over some before responding. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 09:19 AM Response to Reply #207 |
208. I am willing to bet that you don't agressively search |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #208 |
209. Most of those are company vehicles, right? |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #209 |
212. "Most of those are company vehicles, right?" |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #212 |
215. I am still curious. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #215 |
217. If i felt they were trespassing or poaching |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #217 |
218. Yes, definitely I would want to know what was going on. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. Once again, my place my rules. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
27. That is an extreme over-reaction for propaganda purposes. |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
31. Whatever happened to the "bloodbath" from the AWB sunset? |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I have been keeping a close eye on this one to make sure it doesnt happen |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. LOL. Great site. NT |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. So you can shoot anybody you want |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Not so. You are being hysterical. |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. You really need to read the law before offering commentary. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Why do you keep saying that? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. No, you are distorting the law. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
50. i sent an email to jeb |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
52. This should insure that many will not go to Florida for |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #52 |
155. I'm with you on this. I don't own a gun and I don't won't to |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #155 |
222. That limits your vacations to Illinois, Wisconsin, Kansas and Iowa (?) |
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ebal (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
57. Since Saturday it was in action |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Isn't it funny how we Florida DUers aren't so bothered by the law? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Yes, I have to agree that there must be something wrong with Floridians... |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. There's something wrong with the right to defend yourself in your home? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. ROFL!! I haven't read the law?? It clearly states that if you are away ... |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. "Meet force with force" |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Self-defense is a good thing. |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. That scenario is not covered by the law. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. What if I think I was threatened? Doesn't the law say that if you |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
103. NO, the law does NOT say that. NT |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. That is NOT what the law says. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
137. killing is a bad thing. and if you dont have to kill that is a good thing |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:22 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Depends on the level of the threat, and could you really outrun him? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:35 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. this is obviously defending self, there are a lot more experiences |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:41 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. No, you can't. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:54 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. silverhair not going to argue with you. we will see how it develops |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #142 |
211. Thanks for telling me this. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Nope. You have misquoted the law. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:13 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Yea, "reasonable". What is reasonable to someone, might |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. Case law takes care of that pretty well. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. No? If Robert Durst got off on self-defense, anybody can, |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. I will be the LAST person to say our legal system is perfect. |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. I don't mind the Brady propaganda |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. You're entitled to your wrong opinion. |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. I won't have a gun in my house |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #77 |
123. What's wrong is that you want to subject everyone else to it. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. If you don't want |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
107. Are you really ready to use that gun? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:31 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. A baseball bat to the head can be very deadly. |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #111 |
122. Um, I don't have baseball bat, either n/t |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Um |
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_Loki_ (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
90. Well good for you... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. Just wait a bit. |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
133. The law has nothing to do with shooting "suspicious" people. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
220. You're right, but... |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
63. So under this law would Bernard Goetz be covered under Florida's |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. Even in NY, Goetz's case was ruled self-defense. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. Goetz was a vigilante who looked for trouble & found it!!! |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Wasn't he in subway? |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #94 |
104. He was also armed, in public, pissed-off, & ready to shoot!!! |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #91 |
106. He had been mugged before, and was afraid. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. "The four muggers were looking for trouble, and they found it." |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #112 |
184. I used you exact words. I just changed who was looking for trouble. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #106 |
126. we studied the case in class years ago, and i thought goetz |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #126 |
132. The muggers were armed, and demanded money. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 02:37 AM Response to Reply #132 |
162. and i'm sure |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 06:06 AM Response to Reply #162 |
164. You are being silly. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
95. This flyer is FUD! |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
110. Definitely not thinking about a Florida vacation. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
117. I've lived in south florida |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Good news! Now you won't have to drag the body inside. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
127. That cop informed him wrong. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. Informed her wrong |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:05 PM Response to Reply #127 |
134. Fact is |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #117 |
130. Born and raised in Miami |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. WRONG. BAD ADVISE. GET YOU JAIL TIME. nt |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Makes me wonder |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #135 |
145. Or your grave time |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. If you have to shoot someone in GENUINE self defense, |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #117 |
175. drag the body inside and then call the police. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
120. They didn't need all those pesky tourists anyway |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. Yeah, too bad Brady has to lie to do it. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 07:46 AM Response to Reply #125 |
167. I am really tired of Gun Nazis |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #167 |
189. Florida will never go bankrupt over lost tourist dollars |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #167 |
200. How ironic...the Nazis took everyone's guns away. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
128. As a gun owner living in Florida |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. There is nothing at all in the law about shooting "suspicious" persons. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #129 |
136. I think more liberals should |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #136 |
141. We're on the same page, I am also against the death penalty. |
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torreador (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
138. Stand your ground law. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. I've lived in Virginia Beach |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #138 |
188. How interesting! |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
143. The real issues at hand with the Brady flyers: |
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Lethe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
146. guilty until proven innocent |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-05 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
150. I do think that's good advice to give to tourists |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
153. Thats it for me. I wouldn't want to visit any state that would make |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
156. This screams for South Park reference! |
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dutchdemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
161. This thread gives me chills |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 04:49 AM Response to Reply #161 |
163. it gives me chills as well |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 06:26 AM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Would it work against Eminent Domain? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 08:02 AM Response to Reply #161 |
169. I hear ya |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #161 |
191. Not all democrats march to the orders of the King Democrat |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
177. As a gunowner, a homeowner, and a gun control advocate |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. "Reasonable" does not vary from individual to individual. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. Yes, but............. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #179 |
185. Not true. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #178 |
181. Sure it does, and that is the whole problem with this law. |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Maybe in about a year we can do a study to determine correlation. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Better wager yet |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. How many innocents does violent crime kill? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #186 |
192. But Silverhair, this isn't a CCW situation |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. Yes, it is a CCW situation. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. Not neccessarily friend, |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. Open carry is NOT legal in Florida. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #196 |
201. Personally, I think open carry is a great idea. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #181 |
187. Exactly. What is reasonable for one person, might not be |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. You are wrong. |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 07:25 PM Response to Reply #177 |
204. I truly doubt that any criminal would of known about this law |
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VaYallaDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
193. I have always believed the heat down there |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
195. a 200 comment discussion and no one has bothered to post the law? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. jody posted it in reply #22 |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #199 |
206. thats what I get for not reading them all |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #195 |
202. OF COURSE Brady doesn't post the text of the law. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-05 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
198. Typical Brady scare tactic propaganda |
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MildyRules (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #198 |
213. Yes, but the anti-constitution crowd |
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Moderator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
216. leftchick |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #216 |
230. I am sorry |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
221. The Gun Industry is Loving This |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #221 |
223. Do you hate the NRA and all it stands for or do you hate the NRA but |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Oh Stuff It |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #224 |
225. I take your reply as "I hate RKBA". Gore and Kerry lost votes in critical |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
227. well...if you happen to be a japanese student visiting this country |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #227 |
231. someone pointed out an error in my post |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
229. For some reason that reminds me of a "Do not feed the animals" sign |
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