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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:48 PM
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When did the NFL start frisking every fan before going into the game?
I never heard of this before, but it's been on our news today in Atlanta both at 6 and 11. I guess many Falcon fans were really pi**ed off because the frisking took so long, they missed the opening kickoff! The news guys said the lines were really long because this checking took a long time to do.

They did specifically say it was the NFL who wanted this to take place. When did this crap start?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:49 PM
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1. "Well, you know, 9/11 changed everything"
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:50 PM
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2. My husband went to the KC Chiefs
game a couple of weeks ago and he told me that they were all frisked there. I have no idea when it started but he had never mentioned it before.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:54 PM
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3. I asked because I had never heard this before.
I know they've been banning coolers and backpacks and things for a long time, but I must assume this is something new to Atlanta at least. One of the fans who was interviewed said they should have tested out their proceedures during the pre-season games so they'd know what the heck they were doing by now.

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:04 PM
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7. He said it was really silly.
They didn't really frisk them, it was kind of a once over while they talked and did not seem to pay much attention to what they were doing or really care about it.

Yes, in this "post 9-11 world" :eyes: we must now be searched all the time I guess. I suppose for the time being we should get used to it and probably for the rest of our lives.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:56 PM
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4. Is this new?
They've been frisking people at Red Sox games since 2002.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:56 PM
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5. Not MLB
I saw the Red Sox at Fenway in August and in Baltimore last weekend and I got a cursory look in my purse. My husband and son were waved through.

:shrug:
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 10:21 AM
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21. I've been waived through at Fenway a few times, but
usually I get patted down to some degree. It's easier in the summer with short and a T-shirt when there's not that much room to hide stuff, so a lot more people get waived through. In the playoffs last year in the cold weather and everyone had jackets and sweaters on, it seems like everyone was patted down.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:03 PM
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6. I almost didn't get into a Washington Capitals game...
because I was carrying a soft briefcase. Offering it to be searched wouldn't get me in. I had time to run home with it before the game started.

They're looking for glass, cans and bombs.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:16 PM
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10. I guess I'm the exception, but I'm sure not that paranoid!
I can't see why they're doing all this stupid stuff. Are there crazies that will try doing something to harm a bunch of people? Sure! Will they find they through searches at FB games, I soriously doubt it!

Truthfully, I'm more afraid of the religious finatics than I am of some foreign terrorist.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:25 PM
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15. I have to admit, I think the Redskins' games, because of the city...
and the high powered political and military folks that show up to see them, is a very attractive target. They SHOULD frisk, wand and have dogs sniff folks going in there. What a great place to get a lot of important people.

I haven't been there in a few years.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:05 PM
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8. "Is that a bazooka in your pants sir...or are you just happy to see me?"
C'mon someone had to say it!!! ;)
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:14 PM
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9. What do you expect
It's the WAR ON TERROR .... enjoy it.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:18 PM
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12. Well, for the first time in my life, I have to admit, I'm confortable not
being able to afford to go to the NFL games. At least I can watch them on my TN and still cheer and yell at my set, and nobody bothers me!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:26 PM
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17. Dont get too comfortable
At the rate things are going the " and nobody bothers me " thinking is like sitting on a time bombs and watching the clock tick away.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:18 PM
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11. I have been to a few Vikings games since 9/11
Yes I have been frisked at all of them.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:21 PM
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13. Have Charger season tickets.
This has been the first season that I have been patted down at every game, although my hubby has had his camera pack searched for at least a couple of years now.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:21 PM
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14. Who wants freedom.........
they want to give it to Iraq while taking it from us....go figure. It only going to get worst.
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 11:26 PM
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16. First was the "shakedown" with the ticket pricing, and now this....
They're probably checking your pockets to see if they accidentally left you a few bucks.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:20 AM
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18. I remember a story this year from Steelers - it started this season
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 12:21 AM by RamboLiberal
Actually in the pre-season.

Funny thing is in July I went to a Kenny Chesney (my cousin had someone cancel out on her - Kenny is not my cup of tea) concert at Heinz field(Steelers home field) and I could've snuck pocket weapons or even a firearm in - all they were searching then was bags.

At that concert I was repulsed by quite a few Confederate flags - needless to say the only dark faces there were the ones that were working at Heinz field.

Not a put down of country fans - just a few idiots in the crowd and generally IMHO the sound was cranked to loud and the tunes weren't that interesting.

BTW, there's some country I like - just not Chesney and the bunch that night.

Getting back to the frisking - how the hell are they going to get 60,000 - 100,000 fans in to cold weather stadiums in the winter when they're all bundled up - they better hire an army of security friskers!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:40 AM
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19. We got frisked 3 or 4 years ago in Cleveland.
Can't remember exactly, but I've been in Florida for 3 years now.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:41 AM
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20. The corporations that own the teams and stadiums...
have wanted this for years (going back at least a decade before 9/11) to prohibit people from bringing in their own booze and food and drink generally: this to keep the spectators from getting too drunk and to force them to buy only from the wildly overpriced approved concessions -- a compulsory monopoly. (Seems to me somebody told me the ballpark hotdog that in my youth cost 30 cents -- twice the price of a hotdog-stand hotdog -- now costs $10.) In any case the corporate demand was resisted until 9/11 -- the politicians were of course all for it because it put more money in their corporate masters' pockets but the people fiercely opposed it -- but then after 9/11 the plutocrats and politicians saw their chance and now it happens everywhere, I'm told now even at college games where taking a lap-robe, a basket of fried chicken and a flask of rum or some other alcohol was tradition.

This is another example of how 9/11 has facilitated a wave of oppression -- bogus "security measures" that are either intended to put more money in the corporate fat-cats' pockets or to impose some tyranny that has no relation whatsoever to national security. For example Washington state's bureaucrats attempted to use 9/11 as an excuse to impose the viciously anti-gun ideology of the state's Democratic Party leadership by banning all privately owned firearms and ammunition from the state ferry system. This was especially draconian not only because the state has one of the largest per capita percentages of concealed-carry permits, but because -- for about four-fifths of the ferry riders -- the boats are the only way to get to or from their homes; in other words the ban was a defacto blanket prohibition against gun ownership of any kind -- all the more outrageous because so many of the ferry riders live in rural areas where firearms are essential for survival. While imposing such a wholesale ban was clearly the bureaucrats' intent, fortunately the outcry against it was huge, not only from Second Amendment advocacy groups but from some Democratic politicians as well, and lawsuits were instantly threatened -- don't remember whether any were actually filed. In any case the ban was quickly dropped (and I believe all legally owned firearms so confiscated were eventually returned). But like the NFL searches the attempted gun ban surely typifies the tyrannical uses to which 9/11 had been put.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 10:32 AM
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22. Good Question-There should be a limit to what is acceptable
putting hands on people is not acceptable. Check the bags, scan them with metal detectors, even ask someone to pull up their shirt or jacket to look for bombs. But to frisk someone who has not broken the law is totally unconstitutional..
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:32 PM
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23. To keep people from sneaking food into the stadium
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:34 PM
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24. I've never been frisked at Arrowhead
I walk up to the gate with my purse wide open -- sometimes they move stuff around inside the purse. That's the worst of it.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:42 PM
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25. I read that the Bengals
were going to pass the cost on to the city and the city said it would be illegal to do these searches at taxpayer expense.

Let's see now, charge an arm and a leg to get in then feel up my arms, legs and other parts.

No thanks.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:54 PM
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26. The NFL commissioner ordered it at the start of the pre-season
We went to the pre-season Jets-Giants game at the meadowlands They tapped my front pockets and glanced (very cursorily) in my purse, the patted down my husband, they smiled at my kids. The whole thing is silly. It really is.

At Yankee Stadium this year, they glanced in my purse and once they made me take my Yankee hat off (In case I stored explosive it in, I guess). They also had us turn our cell phones on to make sure they were really cell phones and not timing devices for bombs.
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