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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:20 AM
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William Kristol: Conservatives "demoralized" over pick
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 11:27 AM by Seen the light
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/3/100307.shtml

LOL!

I actually got a call from my diehard GOP parents saying that they're outraged and can't support Bush anymore. Ha!
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:22 AM
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1. Republicans just keep getting weirder.
If this is why they aren't going to support Bush, then their values and priorities are messed up.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:28 AM
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8. Their values and priorities ARE messed up
or they wouldn't be right wing loonies.

And bear in mind that at a time when Chimpy needs all the support he can get and the spotlight is about to be put on how his administration traitoriously violated national security over a petty vendetta, his core right wing loony supporters are deserting him because a) he mildly condemned Bill Bennett's racist comments and b) he picked a right wing woman for the Surpeme Court as he promised to do.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:51 PM
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29. Oh come on, this is all planned to have neo-cons come out 'against' her
They want these screeds hitting the airwaves denouncing Bush's picks in hopes that the Judiciary Dems will be easy on her and let her slide into the high court.

Neo-cons don't even fart unless there is an ulterior motive
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:22 AM
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2. Bush *is* a Uniter, not a Divider!
We are now united. Against him.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:27 AM
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4. Agree, its unanimous
BTW, Newsmax is a really weird web site - very strange ads. Do conservative men have a problem with their sexuality?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:32 AM
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14. All my prostitute friends, and I have many, say YES, they do.
And most of them have more in their closet than shirts.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:34 PM
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24. LOL. When I see their ADs for impotence drugs, balding drugs and
self defense classes I get the impression that all repugs are a bunch of limp-dicked, balding little runts that got picked on in high-school. No wonder they are so angry.

Come to think of it, the few repugs I know meet that description.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:24 AM
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3. They don't really say what's wrong with her
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 11:25 AM by booley
Or did i miss that?

OF course, newsmax isn't actually written by journalists..just propagandists. But still, if they have a gripe with htis nominee, you would think they could give a few examples.

Though thier calling O'Conner a 'Liberal" was funny. Apparently anyone who isn't a wing nut will be considered a "Liberal". we will grow by default from al the people the right excommunicates.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:28 AM
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7. Oh I see it now, i think
This nominee doesn't have enoguh experience.

Of course, niether did Roberts and that didn't bother them.

Why can't Cons ever be consistent?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:27 AM
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5. Three hours after the pick, and Kristol already knows ... huh
Pundits are so annoying. They think they know everything. People are more likely thinking about gas prices, the war, or the baseball playoffs.

P.S.: I think the punk goes by "William" so as not to confuse him with the actor in SNL and Soap.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:27 AM
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6. Whoops, thanks
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:29 AM
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9. Why Don't Your Parents Approve
of this choice? Is it because of the obvious, or she's not conservative enough?
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:30 AM
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11. Not conservative enough
They had heard that she's pro-choice and were outraged. They also didn't like the fact that she used to be Bush's personal lawyer. Whether these things are true, I don't know, but they had heard those things specifically.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:30 AM
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10. Why are conservatives angry? We don't know much about her yet.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:33 AM
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15. I think they are outraged cause someone told them to be outraged.
Same as usual.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:50 AM
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19. Apparently she's at least moderately pro-choice...
like Condi or Gonzales. :shrug:

Don't know where people are getting that from, but I've heard it from several different places.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:31 AM
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12. It's amazing
That of all the horrible things Bush has done, the thing that drives away his supporters is his perceived failure to appoint someone far-right enough.

An illegal war based on lies? No problem.
Torture? No problem.
Murder of civilians? No problem.
De facto Murder-by-inaction of US citizens? No problem.
Bankrupting the country? No problem.
Making a mockery of the US on the world stage? No problem.

Appointing someone not necessarily as insane as Pat Robertson?
I can't support him anymore!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:33 AM
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16. Dammit! She's not enough of a Nazi! How dare Bush?!?! nt
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:20 PM
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20. Maybe it's the final straw?
Maybe it's the sense that they've stuck with him in spite of Iraq, Katrina, the deficit, etc. because they think he will finally oppoint judges to overturn Roe v. Wade. Kristol himself said that Rep. aren't going to bail on Bush "because he might have messed up on Katrina" cause they want conservative agenda & judiciary. So his supporters hang tight & then he doesn't even appoint a religious wacko? They must feel sold out.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:25 PM
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22. That's an excellent point!
If the whole two-term debacle was seen as an opportunity to "correct" the USSC, then this might indeed be the unkindliest cut of all for his far-right base.
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:32 AM
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13. They are idiots
* wouldn't be appointing her if she wasn't a right-wing bitch.
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CardInAustin Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:47 AM
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17. Ahhhh.....
Newsmax.....

The favorite site of right wing nuts everywhere. I can't tell you how many arguments I have been in with rep's when they whip out some article with these bizarre unsubstantiated assertions. Ask them where it is from...."why do you care! can you refute the FACTS in the article?!?!"....press a little more and finally they will tell you that it is newsmax. At this point you know that it is complete garbage. NRO and WSJ are at least credible. Sure, I may disagree with them on....well....just about everything. But at least they have a brain. Newsmax is completely useless.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:49 AM
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18. I only used it in this instance because I don't think they'd lie about
this. I mean...when even Newsmax and the people at The Weekly Standard have turned on you, you're done.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:23 PM
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21. Is this a trick. Do conservatives really know that she's exactly
what they want and are trying to convince Dems they are distressed with her choice. I don't trust a word out of Kristol's mouth, PNAC poster boy that he is.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:27 PM
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23. Like they had any "morals" in the first place
LOL.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:44 PM
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25. If the present trend continues this will become quite a show
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:47 PM
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26. Frankly, its just bizarre in every way but one
`plenty of reliable anti-choice/pro business/pro nat security/pro executive branck conservatives out there and should he want to "play" (because he doesn't mean it just plays it) the "diversity" game he still has plenty to pick from . He could have made all of his rabid constituencies very happy and yet he didn't---why? Because its all about HIM. This is a Bush foot soldier to the last breath. All he cares about is himself--he ain't runnin' again.

Seriously, this was a dumb pick but it was a personal pick. Its all about him first last and always
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:48 PM
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27. I dont buy that
Their strategy is to appear outraged that a "liberal" was appointed .

Its a strategy
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:49 PM
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28. Right on schedule: Neo-Con screeds coming out "against" her
because they think Democrats will be stupid enough to think that if the neo-cons are against her she must be good.

This is Karl Rove's doing.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 01:21 PM
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30. Conservatives freaking out
I sort of think the outrage is genuine. Conservatives are freaking out on the National Review site. (http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_10_02_corner-archive.asp#078285)
Typical snark - "It's an inspiring testament to the diversity of the president's cronies." This isn't something they're saying to Democrats, they're saying it to each other. Maybe the conservatives will revolt on Bush?
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