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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:40 AM
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Interesting analysis of Miers by Daily Kos
Sit back and enjoy
by kos
Mon Oct 3rd, 2005 at 09:25:16 PDT
Several Democrats, including Reid, have already come out praising Miers, which ultimately will only fuel the right-wing meltdown on the decision.

I reserve the right to change my mind, but Miers' biggest sin, at this early juncture, is her allegiance to Bush. That her appointment is an act of cronyism is without a doubt, but if that's the price of admission to another Souter or moderate justice, I'm willing to pay it.

More immediately, this is the sort of pick that can have real-world repercussions in 2006, with a demoralized Republican Right refusing to do the heavy lifting needed to stem big losses. That Bush went this route rather than throwing his base the red meat they craved is nothing less than a sign of weakness. For whatever reason, Rove and Co. decided they weren't in position to wage a filibuster fight with Democrats on a Supreme Court justice and instead sold out their base.

We'll have several months to pick through Miers' record, as well as highlight her role in any number of Bush scandals (like Georgia10 notes).

But my early sense is that this is already a victory -- both politically and judicially -- for Democrats. In fact, it should be great fund watching conservatives go after Bush. He may actually break that 39-40 floor in the polls, given he's just pissed off the very people who have propped up his failed presideny.

Update: Yup, Democrats are fully aboard. Reid's statement on the flip. Cue in more anguished wails from our esteemed colleagues on the other side of the aisle.

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/3/122516/658
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:44 AM
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1. analysis ?
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 11:47 AM by Moochy
Oh I see Reid is ACTUALLY a genius for praising her.

So clever these dems!! so clever.

Pretty rosy outlook, though it seems par for the course for dkos these days.

(on edit removed some of the unintentional snarky tone!) :D
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:55 AM
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9. Oh, cynicism 101
We teach the course better than anyone - we ought to get paid for this :D
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:44 AM
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2. kos should think twice about this issue
Miers is known for her pro-life positions. Only a man can consider that as a victory.

Once again, kos shows how short-sighted he is.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:45 AM
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3. I know I'm going to have fun watching the combustion from the right
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:46 AM
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4. Schumer was on CNN earlier and was none to pleased that she had
less on the record than Roberts.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:47 AM
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6. And I am happy he was not happy.
This is where the dems should be: unhappy, not considering that this is a victory.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:25 PM
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24. And I've heard the PR on cable news that the Dems are happy about her
and that the conservatives are very quiet. Reid does worry me though as he is personally anti-choice.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:47 AM
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5. Always nice to see a positive analysis.
I like the point that this will demoralize the base. She seems to be against overturning RvW (though who really knows?). In any case, she doesn't seem like an extremist like so many Bushies were hoping she'd be.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:01 PM
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11. I agree completely.
She is MUCH better then many of those who have been mentioned. She has supported Democrats and pro-choice candidates in the past. I think that she may be the best we could get from this administration.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:13 PM
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16. I'm not buyin' it.
She's worse than bad. I don't think Kos has examined her record very closely, and I am absolutely astounded that Reid is on board.

:mad:

More here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2130848&mesg_id=2130848

-Laelth
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:50 AM
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7. Fine....just vote her through and let's be done with it. Sick of hearing
about her. ;-)
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:54 AM
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8. Stop thinking of this Administration as interested in the Republican Party
They have no interest in the R-Party beyond what that party can do for them. The GOP was a tool to get power and get in the WH.

But, at this point in time, this Administration see's a very real possibility of being held responsible for great misdeeds. From using their power to line their own pockets up to and including treason against the well being of the nation. Any such convictions will involve cases and appeals that cannot help but land in the lap of the SCOTUS.

Hence, for them, it is imperative to stuff the SCOTUS with people wholy loyal to the Bush Administration, no matter their lack of qualifications, no matter what that will do to the Republican Party, no matter if it may harm the long term goals of the Religious Right. This is a move purely for the sole reason of protecting this Administrations collective ass.

GOP? You're expendable.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:06 PM
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13. Absolutely dead-on assessment of the situation.
SCOTUS and POTUS sitting in a tree ... S-C-H-E-M-I-N-G
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:13 PM
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17. Very astute
I'd never framed the issue in quite that stark a manner, but it fits. The * Administration is like a rogue faction rather than a party.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 04:48 PM
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25. a rational basis for cronyism
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:57 AM
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10. They should go after Bush on this--if you like Brownie, then you'll like
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 12:01 PM by Gloria
Miers. She has no relevant judicial experience, so we have no idea about her "judicial temperament." But more importantly, she's another Bush crony that knows how to keep his secrets. Bush is not choosing people who will serve the country, he is choosing people who have served him and who is now rewarding with jobs that these people have no comittment to on a lifelong, career basis.

This is just so bogus, it reeks. I say go after Bush and his incompetence. If Plame indictments come down, you'll have even more ammunition as to the type of people he chooses and their missions in life--being a friend of Buscho, not of the American people.

The cynic in me is saying, however, that Bush knows she may not go through OR is even planning on it....A few Republicans go against here to present a veneer of "sensible conservatism." Then, he goes and appoints someone really creepy whom they will all unite to get through....you never know when Gonzales will crop up, pictures of child rape or no pictures of child rape in Iraq.....
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:04 PM
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12. If all Dems vote against Miers Republicans have to hold noses to vote
While they are holding their noses, they will be looking over their shoulders at their base. It is possible that with enough Democrat solidarity, there may be enough Republican defectors to defeat the nomination. Perhaps this is the plan, so that the Administration can keep the story alive, sucking oxygen out of Plamegate and Floodgate, they hope.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:07 PM
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14. I'm starting to wonder how this will play out.
The repug propagandists have come out of the gate screaming about Miers. Let's face it, they are always on message. So why the seemingly intentional division b/t * and his (non-elite) base?

Could it be that the repug senators will be the ones fighting against Miers in order to distance themselves from *? I hope I'm just being super tinfoilish but I'll be beside myself if this becomes * plus the dems vs. the repugs.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:11 PM
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15. What does kos know?
I worry about future bush court cases such as dealing with improprieties as well as very very large issues such as the 6th amendment. Oh well, as long as she is moderate on some issues who needs civil protections?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:13 PM
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18. The Pit Bull with size 8 shoes?
Im not real sure what to think of her, my guess is thats shes a raging winger.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:14 PM
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19. I agree with what Kos wrote
I honestly don't know what many of my fellow posters on DU expect from Bush? we aren't going to get some raving liberal. I don't know if she will be a Souter, but I'm hoping she will at least be a O'Connor. I agree that the conservatives are going to get demoralized especially if she and Roberts aren't as conservative as they expect.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:17 PM
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20. Agreed...
We're about to be treated to the spectacle of Republicans either trashing a Repulbican presidents Supreme Court nominee or else trying to prop up an obviously unqualified candidate...

And let's not forget what some digging in to Miers' past can bring up.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:18 PM
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21. Yeah! Lets sit back and do NOTHING!
What kind of fucking strategy is that?

Fuck the D.C. Democrats, and fuck Kos.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:28 PM
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22. Gee, what do you REALLY feel?
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Indy Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:35 PM
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23. The one thing we do know, is that Bush knows her well.
She has worked for him for 10 yrs.

The question is did Bush pick here because her views line up with his, or did he pick here because he thought she would slide through?
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