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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 12:49 AM
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Shall the Populist come back from the grave?
Populist Party in the 1880s?

Folks it is time that people realize the Democrats have been co-opted to the point that we now must seriously consider a third party...

Now I know historically the track record of third parties, must go the way of the do do... but one succeeded beyond a shadow of a doubt, and that was the GOP. Another one came close, the Populist party, which actually had a fairly strong representation in Congress (and woke the Democrats the hell up)... so it is time for those to consider voting third party and forming a third party. It is quite clear that the Democrats don't want us... and none of us could ever vote for a Puke (unless they do their wonderful switch as they are prone to do with the Dems... ) But history is clear, we must take the future into our hands... and the Democratic leaders are not leaders... so time to show them the door... and go our own POPULIST way.

And no, the Dems are not a valid alternative to the devils in DC... and as long as they are not an alternative, guess what? Diebold or not, the GOP will continue to win, after all better to vote for the devil you know, than the one you have no clue.

Oh and what happened to the Populists? By 1900 or so most of their ideas were absorbed by the Democrats... you may even know some of their ideas as the New Deal.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 01:43 AM
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1. god, I have been saying this for years . . .
this country ABSOLUTELY needs a populist party! . . . you know, one that would honestly look after the needs and interests of the PEOPLE (that's us) . . . it wouldn't be the Populist Party of the 1880s, but one uniquely adapted to the realities of the 21st century . . .

in 2005 America, no one (and I do mean NO ONE) is looking after our interests -- as individuals, as families, as communities . . . in BushCo Land, corporate profits trump everyting -- equality, social welfare, justice, civil rights and liberties, peace, the environment (ESPECIALLY the environment . . . EVERYTHING! . . .

from this day forward, our rallying cry should be "Power to the People!" . . . hell, we even have our anthem, thanks to John Lennon . . .

Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Say you want a revolution
We better get on right away
Well you get on your feet
And out on the street

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

A million workers working for nothing
You better give ’em what they really own
We got to put you down
When we come into town

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

I gotta ask you comrades and brothers
How do you treat you own woman back home
She got to be herself
So she can free herself

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Now, now, now, now

Oh well, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Yeah, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 02:47 AM
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5. I have the sneaky suspiction that it may come
faster than we think, wtth the same results as well when the dust settles
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 01:51 AM
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2. The problem is the two-party stranglehold on power
If you can destroy their grip on power, then you can do whatever you want, but until then, the only way out is through one of the parties that currently hold power, and you're probably talking about the Democratic Party in that case.

Good luck trying to break the two-party duopoly on top of breaking the power of corporations over government in general. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the most difficult, trying to accomplish both those tasks at the same time would rank as a 9.5 or higher.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 02:46 AM
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4. Oh I know the problems
Unfortunately John Stuart Mill was not alive when the Constitution was written. They wanted to avoid Faction with a passion, why the system of winner takes all. And this is truly the elephant in teh room. Problem is that the way the DLC is trying to push all progressives out, as "radicals" (and you just saw a good example in the other thread) we may need a clear shot across the bow.

I expect a third party to rise soon... whether they will be able to take full power and replace one of the two, or just be the shot across the bow remains to be seen. The other great example of this is Ross Perot, who ranted and raved agaionst NAFTA and he was right. He might have been wrong on so many other levels, but not NAFTA. But don't be too surprised to see a third party rising, the reason many folks don't see they are different (and we know they are, for the most part) but things like the Bankrupcy Bill and the CAFTA vote don't help, one bit.
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 01:53 AM
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3. Bi-metalism!
Free silver!
Where are you Bryan, when we need you? We'll beat those Rockefellers yet! NGU
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 03:28 AM
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6. Here you go!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 03:29 AM
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7. thanks
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