OMG...talking about quarantening entire region of the country

if avian flu outbreak. He's implying he would use the military to isolate an entire region. :argh:

before he realizes there's a problem.

By the time Bush's cretin appointees even realize there's a problem, quarantines will be irrelevant.

if the area affected is in a red state. Blue states or areas will be allowed to sicken and die with a very slow response.

whata cheap way to control the masses

let the politicians have ALL my flu shots ,vaccines ect..

the anthrax vaccine made lots of Vets ill but cannot talk about it or it will upset the Imperial agenda

SAY NO to Mandatory Vaccines..Call your Congressional offices .
I don't trust NO GOVT vaccines.

My initial post was during the press conference. This story is being picked up by the corporate media.

Bush Considers Military Role in Flu Fight

By JENNIFER LOVEN
The Associated Press
Tuesday, October 4, 2005; 12:38 PM

WASHINGTON -- President Bush, increasingly concerned about a possible avian flu pandemic, revealed Tuesday that any part of the country where the virus breaks out could likely be quarantined and that he is considering using the military to enforce it.

"The best way to deal with a pandemic is to isolate it and keep it isolated in the region in which it begins," he said during a wide-ranging Rose Garden news conference.

The president was asked if his recent talk of giving the military the lead in responding to large natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina and other catastrophes was in part the result of his concerns that state and local personnel aren't up to the task of a flu outbreak.

"Yes," he replied.

After the bungled initial federal response to Katrina, Bush suggested putting the Pentagon in charge of search-and-rescue efforts in times of a major terrorist attack or similarly catastrophic natural disaster. He has argued that the armed forces have the ability to quickly mobilize the equipment, manpower and communications capabilities needed in times of crisis.
(snip/...)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1826007&mesg_id=1826007

a really bad, made for TV movie.

Oh. That's right...his hand picked army from other countries!

Our military is engaged in giving life and limb for his illegal and morally bankrupt "war".

Still, it's scary to think of isolating entire regions. I would predict that an outbreak would occur in a large city first and probably on one of the coasts. So, he's suggesting isolating an LA, NYC, Atlanta, or other major city.

If he tries it, I hope it's Atlanta. They got some rednecks down there.

He's trying to start ANOTHER civil war, just like the one he did in Ira*q. WTF is he up to? WTF????

You can't quarantine a whole REGION!

He is imbecilic beyond all belief.

edit: OH! AND HE KNOWS where a flu outbreak might occur?
STORM WARNING could not even get resources to the right location!

I just want to scream. A lot.

some of my children live there, so piss off.

And BTW, GW, there aren't enough paid mercenaries in your Banana Republic to take over an entire region. But dream on....

everywhere, dear. Mine happens to be in the ME.

I hope the "piss off" was aimed at George and not me.

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I NEVER implied I "hope" a quarantine hits your kids! What a narrow focus that must be.

ME = Middle East. Get it? Fighting in an illegal and morally bankrupt "war". That's my CHILD. So excuse the hell outa me if I don't view your children as "more special".

HOWEVER, I wish no harm to ANYONE OR anyone's Children. Far from it. But if you want to read that into my post, there's nothing I can do about it. It is irrelevant to me.

Why don't you comment on the topic instead of picking on me?

Your words speak for themselves. That's all I can say.

So stop with your I-hope-it's-Atlanta remarks.

:shrug: beats me....

I said "If he tries it" .... IF .. I was not wishing anything of the sort and I resent being cast in that light.

Again. Do you have any comments on the TOPIC of the thread are do you prefer to continue to zero in on your misunderstanding of one post?

who hopes you learned not to wish tragedy on anyone, no matter how justified you feel in that effort.

. to not wish tragedy on anyone. And I do not. If it makes you feel better to think you taught me a lesson, go ahead.

I also know that some people are immune to rational thinking.

Have a nice day.

Your words speak for themselves.

Have a nice day, as well.

but Atlanta also has some good people who are not rednecks; what an insensitive remark. All major cities - North, South, East and West -have good people along with bottom feeders.

Atlanta has a multicultural population and doesn't deserve an outbreak of a deadly disease any more than the rest of America.

:hi:

Sorry to offend. Rural Georgia has people who DO WHAT THE HELL THEY WANT. If I'm not mistaken, there are militia groups who train and hang out there. I could be wrong.

I'm just saying perhaps some regions are more willing to be held hostage than others. Again, could be wrong. I don't know everything.

NO ONE deserves an outbreak of disease. And that was not the point of my post. One point was HOW THE HELL does he think he knows WHERE an outbreak might be?

I have nothing against rednecks. Except the one in the Whitehouse.

I grew up in rural Georgia with rednecks. They can't help it that they are. I hate the redneck in the White House, too.

for???

From what I've seen, all across the US, urban areas and large sub-urban areas are mostly Dems, and the rural areas are Pubs. Ga. is no different! Atlanta is a Dem city! Most of the rest of the state is pretty rural and very RED.

Hell, I'm a yankee from Pgh. Pa. and I can say the same thing about Pa. Pgh and Phila are mostly Dem but the whole center of the state are RED!

Evidently I did a poor job of expressing my meaning.
The SOUTH! DUDE! Are they gonna lay down and take it?

NYC? CALIF? GEORGIA?

I don't mean to come off prejudiced. I am not. I have a general sense of how certain "Regions" might react to an "occupation" of their territory. I am not at all in favor of allowing such a move.

It was actually a compliment to what I see as the free spirit of the South. I KNOW they vote "red". But that's because they think the "North" is trying to seize the government, etc. I know southerners. They are independent to a fault. I hope NO ONE is willing to let him get away with this.

Make sense yet?

some facts about the 2004 election.

Atlanta is Fulton and DeKalb Counties.

Election results 2004:
Fulton County (336,741 votes):
Bush 39.9%
Kerry 59.23%
Badnarik .66%

Dekalb County (276,771 votes)
Bush: 26.58%
Kerry 72.55%
Badnarik: .64%

Average for Atlanta:
Bush: 33.24%
Kerry: 65.89%

And that is with 100% paperless electronic voting stealing machines!!

Preface: I have nothing against rednecks. They are who they are and serve their life's purpose. Just as we all do. They don't take a liking to people trying to reign them in. They have their own free spirits.

With this information (thank you) my conclusion might be, he is going after BLUE?

I see this as amounting to a THREAT of domestic terror.
Nothing less. He is terrifying a country. Ours.

We have a terrorist in the White House. It is as simple as that.

Do NOT let this happen, people. Live, love, fight (only as required for defense - and this is one of them).

Hoping for disaster for anyone specifically seems rather irrational to me. But that's just me.

:scared:

If The Chimp is talking about this, that sets off my tin foil hat. And I don't wear a tin foil hat often around here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1822546

This article accuses the CDC of withholding info that is vital to the development of a vaccine. (Corporate greed over human life.) It's almost like they are trying to kill us.

on edit- link to original story-
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/1005/03natcdc.html

What worries me that the Bush Adm. has used Tammany Hall type tactics to get rid of people who have been highly respected at the CDC and replaced them with "pioneers". If that has happened then who do we look to to get real information?

The other day CNN ran a piece that was supposed to make bush* look as though he were a leader on top of important issues. They used several clips meant to make him appear presidential. Three or four of the clips were him talking in various forums about the "bird flu". This scared the bejeezus out of me so much so that I shared my concern with Mr. zola.

I don't think it is tinfoily at all to recognize that the bush* cabal is a deadly group of thugs that act and think solely about their self interest. Their energy and warped brain power are totally engaged in grabbing more power and looting what ever treasury that they can get their hands on. Period. I have not seen one single act from these thugs that focuses on the good of the people. Not one.

I heard the press conference today and my heart dropped. These bastids are not done bringing harm to America (not to mention the rest of the world). May God help us all, or if you wish, may the FSM help us all.

to use the military to restrain American citizens, can he?

The * administration could declare an outbreak and quarantine a region without there even being an outbreak. I know it sounds like a sci-fi movie, but hasn't this entire * experience seemed like a horror flick?

He can't wait for another disaster to distract from all the disaster he's wrought. Not only do they want to put us under military control, but you will also be REQUIRED to get whatever shot his pharmacy cronies cook up.

am the dicator", wince, grind jaw.

and continues to address it - cause this is something he really wants to happen...the chance to deploy the military to control the civilian population (under whatever capacity he can get it)

No more negative coverage about FEMA failures, the Iraq War, criminal activities of Delay, Frist, Rove, etc. Nothing but fear, and that's exactly what the cabal wants.

when discussing death...:-(

the more death, the more successful

It really is - they had people locked in buildings in China with SARS - it's a awful situation - let's hope it dosn't happen here.

how will they be able to find people who may be carriers who may have already left the area for business or vacation?

I remember the swine flu scare back in the 70's. This sounds as bad, or worse.

Ted Koppel did a Nightline on this last week. They're talking like between more than 5 million could die from this. I forgot the high number.

scary indeed

There isn't even a vaccine for the avian flu yet. (I don't think).

There's one in the works, but it's going to miss this flu season. Seems like someone didn't think ahead. Ya think?

:hi:

Thinking ahead is not Bush's forte, or anyone else's in this admin. apparently.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/1005/03natcdc.html

The Atlanta Constitution Journal is accusing the CDC of withholding info that is necessary to developing a vaccine.

50% death rate...:scared:

in this admin has thought about that. It was just another one of his comments with no details.

They get the info out, so they can say, "We told you so.", but they don't really have a plan.

Look at all of the examples since Bush was elected in 2000. Chief among those is the Iraq War. No plan, just go in there and kill them all :-(.

:wow:

:wow:

:wow:

Since "Terror! Terror!" doesn't work any more, he'll start yelling "Flu! Flu!" in hopes of getting militarized police powers.

are talking about stuff like telecommuting, staying home from work when you feel sick and using good hygiene--NOT lputting us all on house arrest!
I cannot imagine why the Chimp feels the persistent need to threaten military control of the people--he must have let the bananas ferment.

in the past without military control. Doesn't he know anything other than how to go AWOL and how to use the military against our own people?

human suffering. Send the military in to keep a desperate and fearful populace from fending for themselves or revolt.

There are legitimate, medical steps that would be much more effective and humane in the case of a flu outbreak but he won't even entertain the idea of implementing them.

that is the reptilian agenda....no tin foil hat....just reality check for all of us..:scared:

Just saying.

out. I posted this:

Actually, that answer creeped me out. A certain area has an outbreak
and we use the military to quarantine that area - no one in and no one out.

You can't go in to get your sick Mom - or you or your husband is on a business trip and then can't get back to your family. You are trapped in a sick city and the military won't let you leave.

The vision of the trapped people in NOLA because the sheriff in Gretna would shoot at you if you tried to leave - trapped with no food or water, or medical care. Media drives in and out but the people can't leave.

:scared:

Phony "flu" will SF, LA, NY

Tin foil hat wearer or Cassandra, call me names, this is what I think they're up to.

make it impossible for us to vote (blue), or maybe do it beforehand, and declare martial law and BINGO, no more elections ever.

I put absolutely nothing past these people anymore.

us here in Los Angeles, if they won't let truckers/ships with food in. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Our National Guardsmen and military are too involved overseas to commit them to domestic affairs.

If they feel it "necessary" to bring in military force to "quarantine," they'll likely use Blackwater mercenaries, or some other corporate gun-toters.

The peril in this is that these hired guns will have less fear of using their weapons against fellow Americans than a guardsman or an Army grunt would.

the reverse might be true as well.

compared to total end-strength? About 10%.

IDIOTS...I knew that they were not talking about OUR military. There is no way in hell that an American would would sit back and laugh during a natural disaster. No way.

as part and parcel of a public health response to small pox. You start by isolating the infected area, and then with ever increasing circles limit access in and out. Since 9-11 we've allowed exremely low probability occurrences to dominate all discussions. I haven't been to a single community emergency planning session wheere someone doesn't bring smallpox up. Yet there is no evidence, none, that it is a risk. The problem isn't in the discussion, but in the drain of resources from other higher probability matters, such as FEMA and NOLA. If 70% of FEMA's budget has been diverted to 'terrorism', a low proabaility event, then there are fewer resources for a high probability event like a hurricane.

But, IMHO, it is even larger. Because of the fear factor, the feds can divert billions into stockpiles of meds and vaccines, but kids/elderly/poor/mentally ill have inadequate to no access to primary health care. This is an issue of national priority. Do we spend all our money on preparing for the low chance "big one", people suffer disease and higher illness rates because we can't take care of their personal 'smaller' issues.

I think the failure of the feds to institute a smallpox vaccination campaign that worked indicates the skepticism by which the medical community holds the fear mongering. In our county of 100,000 we had 3 health care workers, (no docs), volunteer to be vaccinated.

Sorry, but bird flu hysteria is just that.

great post, great points

This hype or otherwise is freaking me the hell out! :(

by the time they got the idea that something was wrong it would be too late. And our One for the rich and none for the poor medical system will be to blame

If it hits it will get spread through the underclass who can't or don't go to doctors because they don't get sick days or insurance so they will be in the population, riding on buses in trains, in burger kings when they are contagious as hell - and when they go to the hospital - they will end up waiting in crowded emergency rooms where you can sit for hours before someone looks at you - while people mill in and out all around. By the time anybody in government gets wind of it, the virus will be loose. And there is every possibility that * has used the Center for Disease control and the office of the Surgeon General to stash more crony flacks.

I mean with modern air travel the thing could be coast to coast inside of a day.

And even if we could isolate a region we have to feed them, keep power and supply medical care - Which is FEMA's job and they are stretched a bit thin right now, never mind the army.

I remember joking that the only disasters we haven't had yet under * are plague and earthquake - it doesn't sound very funny right now.

Although this man was a governor, I believe he would abolish states rights in a second, given the chance. By the way, that is how he got elected.

His enthusiasm and length of time he spent on the topic tell me that the cabal has a plan, and I don't mean a plan for flu prevention.

:scared:

Very enthusiastic about what he's most interested in.

not :scared: but very, very :mad:

This thread is sending chills down my back. I've got my :tinfoilhat: on because this has been coming for MONTHS. We've read stories about it here on DU, found out that * was reading about the Flu epidemic of 1918 or so this summer and lately it's been on the news!

Okay, my hat and now my suit is on...sounds like they WANT this to come and soon! And I don't give a damn what anyone thinks of my post!

"The Great Influenza: The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History" by John M Barry.

http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1550672,00.html

:tinfoilhat:

and * mentioned the 1918 flu epidemic and limits to the President's ability to respond to a crisis. Then he started rambling and mentioned using the military to quarantine a region. It wasn't a specific plan but just something he's thought about. It appeared to me that he thought expanding Presidential powers to do this was needed but he didn't say that specifically.

None of this passes the smell test to me....I'm feeling uneasy.

Refugees from New Orleans behind barbed wire in Utah

by Don Nash, Unknown News

Sept. 6, 2005

Utah's Governor Jon Huntsman has taken in some of the New Orleans refugees, at Camp Williams. Replete with barbed wire, armed soldiers with weapons at ready, police and sheriff with weapons at ready, and hell, they must surely feel right at home. In America yet. What bullshit! I'm not done with this outrage, not by a long shot. I'm actually just getting started.

.more.
http://www.unknownnews.org/0509090906CampWilliams.html

i've been following it for quite some time too. the story hasn't gone away. in fact, it keeps popping up every couple of weeks or so. *'s obvious glee in reporting this REALLY makes me put my :tinfoilhat: on tight!

Okay, my :tinfoilhat: is on again.

Could this Quarantine be a smoke screen needed to cover and sheild the country from knowing about the Indictments and whatever follows them? I wouldn't put ANYTHING past them!

I was so angry cursing him out for stonewalling on Plame, that it wasn't until he referred to the "possibility" of using the military for quarantine of avian bird flu. Of course, with our military stretched thin by hurricanes and wars of aggression, I agree with other posters that that would definitely require mercenaries. I read a stat somewhere that as of 2001, there were over 600,000 trained mercenaries in the USA.

Scary thought. I'll try to find that source.

many people join the military to learn a skill. Unfortunately, the skill most of them learn is how to kill people. And when someone offers you a 400% raise in salary, to do what you are trained to do already, many people take it. It's one of the reasons for Stop-Loss orders, no point in losing people you've already trained to do their jobs to contractors you have to pay more money to.

Private Military Corporations

"In April <2002>, the Army told Congress that its best guess was that the Army had between 124,000 and 605,000 service contract workers. In October, the Army announced that it would permit contractors to compete for "non-core" positions held by 154,910 civilian workers (more than half of the Army's civilian workforce) and 58,727 military personnel." <12> (http://www.publicintegrity.org/pns/report.aspx?aid=386)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=PMC

that means 300,000,000 people will be controlled by them, at 12,500 per state ( 48 contiguous). Can each mercenary control 500 people? Maybe. Regionally, they'd have better odds.

My guess is that America would kick the mercenaries asses. Remember, a lot of residents of NO were evacuated before Katrina hit. A small populace probably won't fight back. But what if ** evacuates an area and people refuse to leave? How long will those mercenaries have to live against an armed and unhappy population? We've all learned our lessons from Katrina and Iraq. If the BFEE catches you, expect to be tortured and/or starved/neglected to death.

After Iraq and Katrina, how many Americans trust this government enough to listen to the bastards? That's the question they need to ask themselves. If any idiot thinks he or she can control a nation the size of the US when they can't even handle a small nation like Iraq, I just feel sorry for that fool.

History provides a very clear example of what might happen, but then, the BFEE never really studied the end results of history, only the bloodthirsty parts. The parts where people killed people and took away their rights and tortured them. The BFEE never studied what happens to leaders when they piss off an entire nation full of people with nothing to lose.

internet exists, and even if a region is quarantined we will be able to communicate. They are having more trouble keeping secrets unless it happens behind closed doors among the BFEE only.

Sum of All Fears maybe, I can't recall exactly. Iranian terrorists release genetically engineered Ebola into the US, the military is used to quarantine areas of potential infection. the Liberals complain about it, but Jack Ryan saves the day.

We have them in New Orleans right now and no one seems to mind around here. Wait until you have armed Blackwater mercenaries giving you orders in your own neighborhoods.

Don

but what I would say about it would get deleted.

of their employers, would be that being that they're foreign, they would find it easier to...(cough, cough)keep the population under control. There would be less risk of them identifying with and sympathizing with American citizens.

They could be part of the Iraq Wolf Brigade for all we would know.

Don

This was the creepiest article I've read in "The Nation" in quite awhile (and that's saying something!):

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051010/scahill

Scare tactics. Only this time, it isn't terrorists; it's Avian flu.

Remember swine flu in the '70's? It was supposed to be the big bad wolf, and turned out to be a dud.

Not that there COULDN'T be another flu epidemic, but I believe in this case, we're seeing a lot of hype.

Think, yall: Who benefits?

deploying the military domestically, as it appears he is, then bush benefits.

would be quarantine. This is not a new concept. It probably has been included in all public health plans of action forever.If it does get here though it will hit in more than one spot. They might try and isolate the areas but it will be futile.

People will sneak out while infected and others will sneak into more remote urban places where they think they will be safer and it will spread. If it comes in like they think it will, it will overwhelm resources all over the world. Hell, I will quarantine myself if it comes into the country.

I understand it will come in waves with the second wave possibly the worst. Best to have six months of food in the pantry, lots of disinfectant, and fluids on hand. The military will be infected too, at least what is left of them in the country. It will be a giant disaster.
There is no vaccine, tamiflu if it works against the strain that comes in only mitigates the sx once exposed. You will still get the flu.

You will be on your own as this will be a million times worse than what NO was like. No way a quarantine will work military or not.

Inuit villages, and you know in those days those villages were pretty remote.

Population density is too high in most urban areas to have any hope of control, and we have too many roads and ways in/out of cities for them to close all of them off. Except maybe SF or NYC or maybe LA. People faced with quarantine and likelihood of resulting death will find a way out.

Why does his administration keep cutting the Center for Disease Contro and Prevention?

"Dear Sir..I am very concerned when Mr. Bush asks for yet more executive powers. He is asking now to use the US Military to enforce the avian flu if it hits the USA.. I wonder who has stock in this type of vaccine..Its sure to be a major giveaway to his croonies , completely unnecessary and a big overreaction. Mr. Bush and Cheney enjoying weilding unlimited power and controlling the masses with fear. I am asking you to speak out against the possible illegal use of soldiers to enforce a quaritine and the reckless spending of US taxdollars. Medical problems need to provided by the health care professionals and not with a forced quarantine.Sincerely" ...me

You might want to spell check and proof it first. Good letter!

I will double back

Could you please clue us in on what you are talking about?

He said that using the military to quarantine regions was a good idea, if Avian Flu breaks out.

Post-Katrina New Orleans was used to test their ability to:
(a) keep people confined in an area,
(b) cut communication coming out of an area,
(c) keep aid-workers out of an area,
(d) acclimatize the nation to the idea of large numbers of blacks dying and
(e) practice the disposal of bodies in a manner which prevents accurate diagnosis of cause of death.

The protest march was used to test the dispersal and contagion rates of Francisella Tularensis, using a weakened form of the bacillus.

It would be possible to seal off a community, drop lightbulbs of aerosol from helicopters, and tell the world the inhabitants had died of Avian Influenza.

Fact: Testing the spread of Tularemia by dropping lightbulbs containing an aerosol of the (presumably weakened) bacteria onto the ventilation holes of an American subway has been done.
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:U037IZirHLYJ:www.columbia.edu/cu/biology/courses/g4158/presentations/2003/3-Tularemia/Tularemia.ppt+Francisella+Tullarensis&hl=en&lr=lang_en

Fact: Pneumonic (inhaled) Tularemia is indistinguishable from Avian Influenza without proper testing.

Fact: The documents I was looking at on the net about Pneumonic Tularemia which gave the death-rates became unavailable through Google on the 1st to 2nd of this month.

Now none of this proves anything, it is merely tin-hat speculation. However I do think it would be wise for everyone to do what they can to strengthen their immune systems and to stock up on both surgical masks and their chosen method of surviving infections. Mine are cod-liver oil capsules and ascorbic acid powder and ginger to stir into juice; that will always come in handy. I'm not suggesting we should take this seriously enough to start hoarding antibiotics.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:s517:

Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 517

To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 3, 2005

Mrs. HUTCHISON introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation

A BILL

To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes. ...

SEC. 8. FUNDING.

(a) IN GENERAL- There is established within the Treasury of the United States the Weather Modification Research and Development Fund, which shall consist of amounts appropriated pursuant to subsection (b) or received by the Board under subsection (c).

(b) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There is authorized to be appropriated to the Board for the purposes of carrying out the provisions of this Act $10,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2005 through 2014. Any sums appropriated under this subsection shall remain available, without fiscal year limitation, until expended.

The URL you gave doesn't work for me, but I found this one:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:2:./temp/~c1093YY7kN::
and this one from June 05:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:1:./temp/~c1093YY7kN::

The idea of Bush actually being able to create and control the weather is too horrible to contemplate. One can only hope the skeptics are right and the science involved is too complex to use yet.

Fact: Testing the spread of Tularemia by dropping lightbulbs containing an aerosol of the (presumably weakened) bacteria onto the ventilation holes of an American subway has been done.
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:U037IZirHLYJ:www.col...

Fact: Pneumonic (inhaled) Tularemia is indistinguishable from Avian Influenza without proper testing.

Fact: The documents I was looking at on the net about Pneumonic Tularemia which gave the death-rates became unavailable through Google on the 1st to 2nd of this month.

We need to get this out on the airwaves, IMO!!!

peace.

So many last minute grabs for power, but they're having to move too quickly. They were hoping for another easy three years to accomplish this shit.

I live in Houston, a few weeks ago we had Hurricane Rita coming, look at the panic that caused on the freeways and highways.

The best bet is to stockpile some extra food and water, and just ride it out.

They aren't limited to this administration however. He's just using it to justify his mobilizaiton of the military "during times of crisis".

It would be one thing to isolate an area if they knew the source of the outbreak, but at this point, cancelling all international flights and actually having protected boarders, dock workers, oh ya, that free trade agreement, Walmart would have to close it doors most products come from some Asian source.
Not a lot of international press on this story, just our fear factor media. Any excuse to police state this country.

them actually SOLVING a problem. Something they are totally incapable of doing. They create disasters, not avert, clean up, aid.

Since the Avian flu has not yet mutated to an H-H form, we don't know what form it will take when it does. Since we can't get a sample of it in it's H-H form until it takes an H-H form, we can't make a vaccine.

Once it does take H-H form, a vaccine can be made - maybe. Flu vaccine is made using live eggs, but since this is an Avian flu it has been killing the eggs in the experiments that have so far been done.

There are some things that are beyond politics. The Avian Flu doesn't give a damn about human politics.

What the...? Are you all against this? That's how you stop an outbreak before it gets out of control and becomes an epidemic, spreading across the country to kill even more people.

modern society, what with air transport and cars, and the population density of cities. Avian flu could very well break out in several cities at once.

Day 1: moron* is briefed on a reported case of bird flu in Washington state...

moron*: so what's this all about the bull-flu?

ricechecks: that's bird-flu, mr. prez...

moron*: thank you condi, I'll beat you later...

ricechecks brightens.

moron*: so who flipped the bird in washington?? heh heh heh...

Day 2: moron* plays golf and gets an urgent bit of news via ricechecks...

ricechecks: apparently, it's been reported that there are several dozen cases being reported in Washington state, Oregon and Northern California...

moron*: case of what? Beer? heh heh heh... now watch this shot...

Day 3: Moron* plucks hairs from a mole at a meeting of his cabinet in the oval office...

rumspuke: (sniffles) mr. prez the hospitals on the west coast are reporting that their emergency rooms are overflowing with people diagnosed with bird flu. Several have reported people dying while waiting for a doctor to treat them...

moron*: anyone one got better tweezers than these?

Day 4: condi, rumspuke and dickhead chaney all have heavy colds. rumspuke continually blows his runny nose...

moron*: what the hell is the matter with you people? where is the rest of my staff? is there some sort of national sick day going on or something...

dickhead chaney barfs into the trash can, rumspuke faints on the carpet...

ricechecks: (sniffles - then hacks up flem) sir, the bird flu has spread like wild fire across the country. The west cost has reported people dying in the streets. The morgues and the hospitals can't keep up. We haven't heard from NORAD today. The federal reserve bank in NYC has closed it's doors and the stock exchange stopped trading. All the banks in New England have closed in fear of a run. The military is reporting at 35% capability. Sir you have to do something now!

moron*: (gazes out window at the bodies lying on the street) dang, I wish I was in crawford today with the others out on "national sick day"...fuckers.

Day 5: moron* mills about the white house by himself...

moron*: helloooooo, mcfly!!!! hellooooo, where the hell is everyone and who do I have to fuck to a cup of coffee around here!!!

Then a flock of irate infected chicken hawks spot a chickenhawk who is obviously sicker (and drunker) than any of them, and they swoop down through the chimneys, filling his residence with flu-filled feathers, and, descending on him, start slowly pecking.

right into the ground like 9/11.

monkeys spread disease and the Pentagon wants to bomb an entire town to death?

Wait, monkeys spread disease in that movie too?

Ha, ha.

Yeah

That is the nature of modern air travel. The virus has a 24 to 72 incubation period. A person is contagious during that time with no symptoms. So anywhere the flu shows on a map, is where it WAS, not where it IS. Everybody knows that too.

However, quarantine IS effective IF you can get ahead of the flu.

the odds are of our getting "ahead of the flu" with * in charge?

I thought so.

Now can I go cry myself to sleep?

Necessitating all of certain regions of New York, PA, FLA, Etc. to be quarantined. Don't worry, the rest of you can still vote. But if the people who live in the blue parts of the state leave their houses they will DIE. Hope you voted absentee! :hi:

of LA have been destroyed and people may never come back... Besides, it would take very little for some secret biolabs to produce the right stuff... Look, they never caught the Anthrax guy...

they are opponents of birth control. No. They are more into Life and Death control. I hate the bastards.

Scary.

an "enabling event." Read this thread, including the articles posted in the replies, and you will see just how far along this course they already are:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4790112
thread title: Missing A KEY POINT in *'s speech: POWER GRAB FOR POTUS AND MILITARY

Under the blatantly dictorial powers of FEMA, Bush can declaire martial law pretty much any time he wants, and Congress cannot even REVIEW the decision for 6 months. And under martial law, Bush controls abolutely EVERYTHING. They have been working toward this for YEARS, and the setup and plans are all there and waiting.

WHAT? Not the beautiful USofA. He wants to be dictator (and does a good job of impersonation).
That has been evident from the start. And he has lots of fundie and corporate help advancing that motion.

BUT WHAT? I've never lived in a dictatorship before. I'm an American citizen, protected (I think) by the Bill of Rights and US Constitution.

What does he want? Can we just give him a pacifier or something and let him go away?

Seriously, what is the purpose of imposing dictatorship on us?
Someone please tell me.

nuke whatever country they want, have absolutely no limits, and never even have to PRETEND to have an election again.

PERMANENTLY.

It's only hard to understand for sane people.