Why I dislike Kerry.....

Remember during one of the debates with Bush; Bush called him a
liberal and used the term liberal as if it was a bad word.

Kerry DID and SAID NOTHING....

If Kerry had just said before his answer, " By the way, I am a liberal and proud to be a liberal. It is liberalism that has made this a great country". He would have been president!!!..

He allowed Bush (and as an extension) the rest of America to devalue the word liberal, and liberal PEOPLE.... (like the Dems)...

The SOB didn't fight back one bit! Hope we're not that stupid to put him back in the race!

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have fixed everything.

"My only mistake was trusting the president."

...that could've made a difference.:(

have fixed everything.

"My only mistake was trusting the president."

where they were afraid of gay marriage! :sarcasm:

You dont even have the excuse to be from a blue state. You should know better.

I felt the same way about Dean. I really, really wish he had come out and told the good people of Iowa tht he was a flaming liberal. He might have won the caucuses so easily. He let that chance get away. Sigh!

Dean is a consvertaive/moderate democrat. He isn't a liberal. Just because he comes out against the war in Iraq doesn't make him a liberal.

don't ya think?

and is pretty moderate.

The GOP will always say of any front runner "s/he's the MOST liberal of them all!"

They did it to Dean when he was the front runner.

They did it to Kerry when he got the nomination.

...but he is by no means part of the DLC/Leiberman wing of the party.

doesn't mean he isn't a conservative dem.

In order to be a "conservative Dem," he would have to be, at the very least, anti-choice. He's not...

I'm not picking on you, FA82, I just think your labeling of Dean as a conservative is incorrect.:hi:

He may vote liberally but how do you know he personally is that way? :shrug:

Then FUCK HIM

Cause he doesn't agree with everything you want or say? How mature. :eyes: So by that notion Dean shouldn't be party chairman and Reid shouldn't be minority leader.

...why liberals allow the Cons to demean the word as if it were some epithet. The roots of liberalism are steeped in liberty, not licentiousness. By running from the term as if it were a venereal disease, we allow the Cons to brand us with one simple term.

I am proud to be liberal and never hesitate to redefine it for someone who has been brainwashed.

Unfortunately, even many so-called liberals do not understand the meaning of the word.

If anyone makes the term out to be liberal I use the JFK quote. About what it means to him to be a liberal about how it means to progress and look forward for a better future etc.

While the right's knee jerks HARD when someone makes any comparison to them and Hitler, Facism, etc., liberals (who are accused of being "PC) sit by while the right goes on and on comparing support for public education with Lennin, Stalin and Mao.

Kerry and others need to show the country they wear the liberal label with the distinction and honor it deserves.

So what? He might consider himself a moderate. Oh and I love how you're just trashing Kerry (and now Dean). :eyes: Real nice. Go find someone else to trash, okay?

Bush was willing to proclaim that he was a conservative. Again, Kerry dealt with that as he does with most major defining issues-with silence.

His point was to say that labels do not matter, ideas matter.

This fanatism about labels is silly, and BTW, what is called liberal in GA or AL is called conservative in MA.

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Every time he failed to defend himself he did 2 things:

1. He failed to defend other dems.

2. He reinforced the idea that he could not be trusted to defend anyone else.

investigation, attacking each other and disillusioned.

I think I'll go poke my fellow Democrats with a sharp stick.

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general election) and they both have important jobs to do for the Democratic Party right now. I want them both to be successful and jeering at either of them seems really counter-productive.

I can do plenty of things at the same time but many things I choose not to - this would be one of those.

John Kerry isn't the problem right now. Bush and the Republican Congress are the problem.

If you have someone you like for 2008, promote them and their ideas. The tearing down bit just seems nasty and unnecessary.

You can certainly go ahead and do it, but I can also say that I think it sucks.

So, why do you think labels matter. Why cant we focus on what people stand for?

that Kerry defend himself, and the rest of us liberals... He failed!

Many people who worked hard on his campaign feel that he threw the election (either unintentionally or intentionally, the outcome is the same).

He gave up without a fight. In fact, Kerry fought harder and dirtier against Dean and other DEMOCRATS than he ever went after George Bush. He fought dirty to win the primary and then rolled over for the general, when it really counted.

To me, that prompts more questions as to why he threw in the towel so fast, not to mention look at what our country is having to deal with now.

Chaos, destruction and assaults on our country and Democracy almost every single day by this Administration.

Why didnt he fight? And now he has the audacity to even entertain another candidacy?

As a result, I will never cast a vote for John Kerry again.

I'd work for him again in an instant. He's the first DEMOCRAT in years that stood for Dem values.

Umm, the ones that fought dirty during the primaries did not win. He fought against the biggest enemy Bush, and he won, while others were to busy trashing each other.

Get over it, we have 2006 to worry about, at least I know John Kerry is fighting for Dems to win in 2006, he's got their backs.

liberals "extremists". Thanks Sen. Schumer. I've written you a letter with a piece of my mind.