OK I'll say it. Delay isn't going to jail.

be honest with yourselves people. IT won't be so disapointing in the end.

:cry:

BTW the LaRouche people are handing out Anti-Bush stuff in the tunnels here in Houston. I donated a coupla bucks for a Improve Texas without DELAY bumpersticker.

But if we get the schmuck out of office and out of power, that's a net gain anyway!

I suppose Boy George could pardon him.

ARRRG BEING A PESSISMIST IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING A REALIST!!!

That money laundering charge carries up to life in prison. He won't get life, but I doubt highly that he'll simply skate.

He would have charged with the real crime first...

He only threw out money-laundering after the first indictment was attacked. I don't think he has the goods.

Besides, politicians rarely do real time anyway.

The jury saw a ton of information and has been reviewing this case for over a year. In fact there was more than one Grand Jury involved and all saw evidence of a crime having been committed by Delay. I think one of Delay's cohorts has turned states evidence against him. He is going to be fighting for his life as a free man and not just his leadership role in the house.

to come up at the right time. The RWers are spinning it as "the other charged wouldn't float and that is why the new charge came out." THAT is total bullshit. There could be MORE charges coming. I HOPE!

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:shrug:

Wouldn't be the first time. We'll see.

years later? That seems to be effin stoopid if you ask me.

I haven't seen anyone actually PROVE that that claim is true.
And in light of all the other CRAP he's been claiming
about this case, I'm sure not taking his word for it!

He KNOWS he's busted; all his squawking is just
propaganda aimed at saving his career.
Convictions won't matter if he can convince his
constituents that it's all just a "liberal conspiracy" to
frame him.

EDIT: Just found this on another thread,
so my instincts seem to be correct:

On the contrary, the Houston Chronicle interviews
a law prof at UT (http://http//www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3380481)
who says that DeLay's lawyers' contention
that the original indictment is flawed is itself bogus ...

George Dix, a professor at the University of Texas School of Law
who is an expert in criminal law and procedure,
said he doesn't believe changes made to the Texas election code
by the 2003 legislature have any effect on the conspiracy charge.

The penal code's conspiracy charge allows for the charge if the defendants allegedly conspired to commit any felony, including an election code felony.

Just because the election code was "silent" on the penal code provision until 2003, it doesn't mean it wasn't a valid charge before 2003, Dix said.

"To me it just says, 'We really mean what we said implicitly before,' " Dix said.

Would you buy that train of bullshit?

"Just because the election code was "silent" on the penal code provision until 2003, it doesn't mean it wasn't a valid charge before 2003, Dix said."

DeLay is corrupt, but saying shit like that is like saying impeaching Clinton had something to do with perjury.

Things can be crimes despite not being writte in the code? You're sounding like a Republican.

:scared:

And I am not easily frightened...

the enemy of your enemy is your Friend - sometimes. The main thing now is to get rid of Bush and the Repukes. I'll take all the help I can get -

back to his "normal".

They won't, I"m thinking 06 and 08 will be really ugly for the blackhearted thug.

Delay won't spend one day in jail.

But actual jail time is NOT even a possibility.

The only REAL justice on the horizon
is the damage this does to the future
of some criminals who pose as politicians,
and to their organized, criminal association
which poses as a political party.

some time. One of the new charges carries up to life in prison. I'm not saying he'll get life, because we all know that won't happen. What makes you think he'll get by with just a fine?

this country.

here apparently want tinkerbell to tuck them in at night. What is up with the fantasy world stuff here @ DU. First if the indictment wasn't on something that wasn't a crime on the books till years later we knew they wouldn't put his ass in jail. Now!!! To find out that the indictment is fulla shit is just the cherry on the top. Which will colour any other thing they have going even if it is good or not. I just don't get it. Why is everyone so happy about some shit that is gonna be a let down is totally beyond me.

The two new indictments have nothing to do with the 2003 law. The two newest charges stem from new evidence that was just brought about a week or two ago. With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about.

edit for my awful spelling and to make clearer

I heard on some news show that he was at 27% approval.

Was that correct, do you know?

Bush only has the power to grant pardons to FEDERAL CRIMES.

Like Goodhair won't do the job for him!

See http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/bpp/exec_clem/exec_clem.html#WHAT%20IS%20A%20FULL%20PARDON

The governor CAN NOT act alone in this.

made he will do time. If he gets there

good times, good times.

Governor Rick Perry can pardon him.

The majority of The Board of Pardons would have to approve.

The money laundering charge carries up to life imprisonment. I know he won't get life, but if he's found guilty he'll do time.

every last american does.


if he did go to jail, he could be a martyr - but nope - he's just ethically disadvantaged and morally corrupt and we all know it.


granted it would be more fun if he went to jail.

but rich white men never go to jail for stuff.


rich white women - possibly.

Please, buy a bumper sticker online from an unaffiliated group or make your own on cafepress or something. You are just contributing to the bizarro cult like indoctrination of other lost, generally young people.

in TX I didn't think. Then afterwards I read the lil booklet and was like WTF did I just do. Then I was like I think I'm supposed to not like these people. By then it was too late. Then I thought any enemy of * is a friend of mine. I'm kind torn.

I prefer him to resign and spend the rest of his days on this mortal coil friendless, utterly exposed and in ill repute and ignored, essentially bankrupt, and walking the beach in San Clemente muttering to himself.

I don't want him incarcerated- I want him to inescapably epitomize Failure and Corruption Exposed while still alive and able to talk, a la Nixon. That's the true equivalent of capital punishment for a politician.

...so can DeLay. But hopefully enough damage will have been inflicted on his career on the Hill that it won't even matter. Maybe he'll hole up in some rural cabin and never come out again. That would suit me just fine.

His attorney will never let that happen and DeLay won't take one for the team. If/when it reaches the point that he has no other options he will squeal like a piggy. At best I expect a deal resulting in reduction of charges and a probated sentence and fines.

the same thing about himself. Is he still around???

Jail time would be gravy. :shrug:

I agreed - just shrugged it off. I think it's funny that he felt compelled to tell me that, but historically speaking, he was correct. I felt no need to pursue it any further...

:evilgrin:

Hey, I can live and dream and hope, can't I? :)

I wouldn't be so quick to surrender. Delay still has links to Abramoff and that case is still pending. Who knows how many other charges he may have brought up, and I don't mean from just Ronnie Earle.

They've got im. He was under oath and told Earle he approved the $190,000 check with a proviso that $190,000 be returned to individual candidates. Now DeLay is claiming he "mispoke".

He's done.

LIFE max for money-laundering. Brings a tear to my eye and a smile to my heart.

:) :cry::)