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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:25 PM
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Kerry Amendment fails, 50-49 (needed 3/5ths)
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 08:51 PM by JohnLocke
Would have waive Budget Act restrictions and increased Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Funding. Required 3/5ths majority.

Failed 50-49. The working poor and fixed-income elderly won't have heat this winter. Republican bastards.

Please nominate for Greatest Page.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:26 PM
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1. Thanks for the tip.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:26 PM
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2. For clarity
Lets only report aisle-crossers
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:29 PM
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3. Lugar Yes
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:29 PM
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4. waiting
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:30 PM
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5. Durbin YES, Santorium YES, Byrd YES,
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:31 PM
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7. Reid NV YES,
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:30 PM
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6. Santorum aye?
a brief glimpse of sanity? :crazy:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:31 PM
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9. yes, santy man said AYE
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:32 PM
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10. anyone keeping tabs-I came late.
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baron j Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:16 AM
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51. Probably because he is a Senator from a snowy state with
lots of seniors living there. I doubt he suddenly grew a heart.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:44 AM
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53. It's only because he's up for re-election next year. If he...
didn't have that over his head, my guess is that he'd have said nay. He doesn't give a flying f*ck about average Pennsylvanians let alone poor Pennsylvanians.
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baron j Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:33 AM
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61. I no longer live in Penna, but I hope for my relatives' sake that
they dump him next year. Though he'll probably end up with some cushy lobbyist position.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:40 AM
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62. My fear is that he'll end up like Ashcroft. I was so happy when...
the late Mel Carnahan won over Ashcroft (and Jean Carnahan took the Senate seat in Mel's place). However, because of this, Ashcroft became Attorney General. I would never wish Ashcroft on Missouri, but it just shows that even when someone doesn't get elected, he/she's not out of the game and can still do immense damage.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:45 AM
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54. Santorum did it ONLY hoping it helps get more votes. He has no heart.
.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:31 PM
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8. Should point out
Most of them were read out in the initial reading
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:32 PM
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11. Kerry YES
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:33 PM
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12. ms Snowe YES,
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:33 PM
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13. Kennedy YES
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:33 PM
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14. does this amendent have to go thru the house yet?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:34 PM
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15. Nelson Nebraska says NO, Thune says NO!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:36 PM
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18. yes, 50 and no are 49. they needed 3/4?? drats!!
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:35 PM
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16. Nelson of Nebraska No?
:wtf:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:35 PM
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17. Coleman, Specter YES, carper NO
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:36 PM
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19. Inouye NO
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:37 PM
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20. the amendment was NOT agreed to. they should be shamed.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:38 PM
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22. Stevens of AL is a pain in the butt.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:02 AM
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47. Stevens of Alaska!!
I have never seen such a " piss ant " speak on the Senate floor!! Who the hell does he think he is?? Doesn't he realize that the whole country is on to him, after ABC news revealed that his son wasted $500,000 of our tax dollars to have a 737 plane painted to look like a Salmon? Maybe that's why he's being such a horses ass! I hope they take back all the money he got for his bridge to nowhere! I'm also very upset that Senator Landreau voted NO!!! Is she sucking up to Bush for her State? For help that's NOT COMING????
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:38 PM
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24. 3 Dems voting NO. Are winter warm in DE and NE?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:38 PM
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21. Frist (R - Catkiller) explaining schedule
Stabenow amendement vote next, then cloture, then wrapping up for tonight
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:38 PM
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23. It failed. They needed 3/5ths of the Senate to agree to allow
the amendment to go on this bill. They didn't get it.

Message from the Senate to poor people this winter: Buy blankets.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:47 PM
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29. not only starving the beast
but freezing them too.

disgusting. pitiful. pathetic. beyond the pale.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:47 PM
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30. Better buy blankets for our water pipes too then
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 08:51 PM by Sydnie
cause they will be bursting all over the North East.

Internal flooding instead of external.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:41 PM
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25. This is shameful
Instead of poor people dead from flooding due to government neglect, this winter it will be poor people dead from freezing due to government neglect.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:43 PM
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26. as usual they expect the strapped states to step in.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:44 PM
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27. needs a nomination
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:45 PM
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28. done.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:03 PM
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Hey fewer voters in those blue States, whatever it takes.
:grr:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:47 PM
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31. They might as well just kill elderly poor people who live in the north.
They will be forcing many elderly people to endure a cold winter in a drafty, barely heated houses. This is absolutely cruel.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:47 PM
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32. Here's what I want to know re: the NO voters, how the hell do they
justify that they are serving the interests of their constituents and working for the people they are supposed to serve? How?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:53 AM
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48. Silly rabbit! Poor people don't vote Republican. n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:56 PM
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33. How in the world could anyone with half a heart vote against this?
And then turn around and call themselves the party of 'morals'?

I'm sick!
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:03 PM
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34. And the argument put forth by those voting no
is what exactly? Do we need to get our priorities straight? Do they suggest this is frivolous?
Do they suggest if we vote for this the next thing you know living humans are going to clamor for the same rights as unborn humans. What? What's the argument for a no vote?
It's called the right to life correct? Did they vote that down too?
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:12 PM
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35. Grrrrrrr
Now I'm mad.

:mad: :grr: :nuke: :thumbsdown:

Those cheap bastards want to kill the poor and elderly now.

We have to save money for the billionaires, you know! Can't tax the rich!

This is disgusting. Where I come from, we have a term for this.

"Accessory before the fact."
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Darth Lib Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:20 PM
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36. Did you ever notice...
votes in the senate are usually 50-49, or 40-50, or something where there is always one vote shy of 100.

99% of the time that missing vote is Kerry. Now, I voted for the guy but Jeeezzz. I wish he'd show up for some votes.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:23 PM
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37. AHm, he usually votes
He had something like a 98% attendance record (in years he was not running for PResident.)

????????? He did vote for his own bill, BTW.
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Darth Lib Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:28 PM
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39. I stand corrected
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:06 AM
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50. Well, gee, maybe I'd have noticed if it were actually true
Prove it. And don't use 2004 or 2003 to do it either. He and Edwards were campaigning. Any other time and he was there. Bullshit.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:47 AM
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55. Then I'd conclude you don't know how the senate works.
.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:24 PM
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60. I'd like to see proof of your "99%" statement
I'm sure that you have something to back that up, correct?
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:24 PM
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38. Where Kerry screwed up on this...
He should have called it a tax cut.

I keed
I keed
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:31 PM
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40. you have a point there. Have to speak their language to get thru
their thick skulls protecting the air floating around where a brain should be!
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:12 AM
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58. Well...yes..sort of...
You see...the Repubs love tax cuts but they (the tax cuts) aren't for everyone like Bush claims.

So why can't the Democratic leadership adopt this strategy?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:50 PM
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42. Hmmm. nice strategy
He should have used one of them thar Orwellian phrases, like, 'The Oil Enhancement Act'

How about, 'The No Oil Bill Left Behind' Act? (It even sounds Senatorial, doesn't it?)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:04 AM
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49. Damn I needed that smile
Thanks.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:31 PM
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44. Very sad...
Kerry's floor speech on this amendment is here if anyone wants to read it (after the fact) - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=769
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:35 PM
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45. Thanks, Tom Carper (D-DE)...you suck!
I have some friends in the Blue Hen State that plan on getting Carper out of there...what a burnout.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:08 AM
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46. The only way this will ever matter
is if those who voted against this are well known by the poor and working and middle class families of this country. Why aren't the Dems making a huge deal of this. THIS is an issue that will get them votes and party members.


:banghead:
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:37 AM
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52. i hate to say this, but it will take.....
the deaths of the elderly and the young by freezing to wake this fucking apathetic country up......the only unfortunate thing is there were democrats that voted this thing down as well as republicans.....fuck 'em all...really....vote them the hell out...it's looking more and more like we need a revolution on both sides of the isle.....

it's things like this that make me wonder what i wasted a decade of my life in the navy defending.....
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:49 AM
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56. Funny you should say that...
I quote: "it's looking more and more like we need a revolution on both sides of the isle....." (sic)

I think we need one, PERIOD.
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FredfromSpace Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:50 AM
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57. This is tragic.
People will die.

We need to get the Senate back.

cry:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:45 PM
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59. Disgusting. Tell me again "there is no difference."
:eyes:
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