Could they sail the U.S.S. IOWA to Iowa (on the Mississippi River)???

Is it deep enough? I ask because San Francisco seems not to want it there as a museum.

they could pontoon it to raise it.

And, without fuel or ordnance it would be lighter.

My uncle was on the crew when it was still under construction. He was a radioman on board all through The War. I would love to see it someonewhere it would be appreciated.

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OMG that was funny!:rofl: :yourock:

All I see that far upriver is barge traffic. Shallow draft.

They might be wide enough, but maybe not deep enough.

It would have to go south through the panama canal and then back up north, a few thousand miles at least. The fuel & Hands required would be very costly... not to even talk about draft and bridge clearance, i just checked marineplanner.com, the bridges wouldnt allow it even if they could barge it in..

If it could get up to Memphis, it might still be a good tourist attraction.:shrug:

n/t

bring to our inland seaport near our new minor league ballpark. Do not bet against the freepers that control my city. If they can get a couple of billionaire developers behind putting the Iowa in Stockton they will do it.

maybe less without being fully stocked - even fewer if machinery removed...

still , likely - no.

It would be one helluva sight, though.

they move a battleship to Iowa. The Army Corps of Engineers can do the dredging and all those sixteen inch guns on the Iowa can drop all those pesky bridges they encounter. Oh, who's going to pay for this fiasco?
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http://www.ussbatfish.com/batfish-stats3.html

And since it's an old War Ship, you know they will jump at the chance to replace all those OLD bridges. :sarcasm:

And I do think they could tow it, if they dredged that muddy old river. Or not.

Maybe they could disassemble/reassemble the super-structure too?

We're still trying to get the USS Des Moines up the river.

How that going? What have they said the problems are?

During WWII the Navy named crusiers after cities and battleships after states. Destroyers were named after dead war heroes, like the USS Cushing.

and is in drydock rusting away until someone rescues her. Another great old WWII ship.

lies in anchor at Pearl Harbor. She never came to Missouri. Locks and dams, shallowness of the river (even after being ruined by the Army Engineers) are the probable reason. There's more below the waterline than between the water and the deck.

I saw the Missouri in San Francisco in the 1980s. There was a line a mile long to take the tour. One kid wore a shirt. He was too young to have picked it out himself. His dad must have. Anyway, it said LIBERALS VERSUS AMERICANS. That Limbaugh crap was just getting started.

Soon, those bastards will have their own choice: Bush... or AMERICA. Bush... or the CONSTITUTION. Bush... or (anything else that is good and decent)

But I think it would be cool if they could get the Iowa up near Iowa for the Mid-west tourists.

Hey, could they sail it to Chicago? Not that they could float it down the Chicago River/canal, but Chicago could be cool too.

The St Lawrence Seaway are just to short and narrow to be able to handle the Iowa but there are plans to widen and lengthen the locks. Once widen and lengthen than you have to deal with that 1819? treaty that prohibits more than two naval ships of the US or Canada on the Great Lakes. I do NOT see Canada objecting to the Iowa being ported on the Great Lakes but the treaty does exist and the US would have to at least ask permission to port the ship on the lakes.

St Lawrence Locks:
766 feet long
80 feet wide
depth: 30 feet

Iowa Specs:
Draw: 28 feet.
Length is 888 feet 11 inches
Width 108 Feet, 2 inches

For Locks of the St Lawrence see:
http://www.glsls-study.com/waterway.html

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...acording to a poster above.

USS Iowa:
Draw: 28 feet.
Length is 888 feet 11 inches
Width 108 Feet, 2 inches

Now the City of Pittsburgh had the USS Requin SS-481, shipped up the Mississippi and Ohio River System on a Platoon System, but it only had a 17 foot draw Fully Loaded (Less empty). By putting Platoons on each side of her she was able to get to Pittsburgh through the 9 foot deep locks of the ohio Locks. I do NOT think you can lighten the Iowa enough to get her to draw only 9 feet of water (The Iowa "average" Draw is 28 feet). Now US Battleships turrets are removable (On the Battleships the turrets were installed AFTER the haul was completed and launched, other than that it would be to heavy to launch). I just do not think even with the turrets removed and hauled up to St Louis in separated Barges could you get the Iowa up the Mississippi. Reducing the draw by 19 feet would require massive platoons that would tie up the Mississippi for the time period it moves up the River.

Now the first lock on the Mississippi in just up river from St Louis, so width and length is NOT the problem till you want to go up river from St Louis. Below St Louis the problem is how much water does in draw i.e. how much of the ship is below the water line? As finished that is 28 feet. I can not find the minimum channel depth on the Lower Mississippi but in the Locks on the Ohio and Upper Mississippi the channel is 9 feet. Thus you have to at least raise the Iowa 19 feet just to get it to St Louis. Once at St Louis you have the locks to worry about.... The locks looks to be wide enough (110 Feet) but NOT long enough (600 feet compared to the Iowa's length of 888 Feet).

Just not possible to move such a big ship up a river.

For Information on the Upper Mississippi:
http://biology.usgs.gov/s+t/SNT/noframe/ms137.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River

Lock No 14 is 600 Feet Long, 110 Feet Wide:
http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/PublicAffairsOffice/iowawaterresources/underway/underway.html#Lock%20&%20Dam%2012,%20Mississippi%20River,%20Iowa%20(Major


Specs for USS Iowa:
http://www.ussiowa.com/Specs/USSIowaSpecs.htm

USS Requin (Presently in Pittsburgh):
http://www.carnegiesciencecenter.org/exhibits/requin.asp
http://www.geocities.com/uss_requin/tour.htm
http://www.geocities.com/uss_requin/tour.htm

The USS Des Moines draw is 26 feet, 716 feet long, 76 feet wide.
http://www.ussdesmoines.com/stats.html

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-k/bb21.htm

Yeah, she was broken up in 1924. My point is that just because somebody names a boat after your state, it doesn't mean she's "coming home" when she's decomissioned. Battleships do not belong in Iowa.