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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:02 AM
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Bush military bird flu role slammed >>>
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 12:04 AM by Stephanie

New DU'er "peace_on_earth" wants this poll posted - for good reason!





Bush military bird flu role slammed
Wednesday, October 5, 2005; Posted: 9:19 p.m. EDT (01:19 GMT)



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A call by President George W. Bush for Congress to give him the power to use the military in law enforcement roles in the event of a bird flu pandemic has been criticized as akin to introducing martial law.

Bush said aggressive action would be needed to prevent a potentially disastrous U.S. outbreak of the disease that is sweeping through Asian poultry and which experts fear could mutate to pass between humans.

Such a deadly event would raise difficult questions, such as how a quarantine might be enforced, the president said.

"I'm concerned about what an avian flu outbreak could mean for the United States and the world," he told reporters during a Rose Garden news conference on Tuesday.

"One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move," he said. "So that's why I put it on the table. I think it's an important debate for Congress to have."

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 bans the military from participating in police-type activity on U.S. soil.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/05/bush.reax/index.html?section=cnn_tops

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The poll:

QUICKVOTE

Should there be a U.S. law enforcement role for the military during domestic emergencies?

Yes

No

Go to the link to respond:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/05/bush.reax/index.html?section=cnn_tops




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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:05 AM
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1. Done, but let's get on it people;
it's 53% in favor of martial law.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:06 AM
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2. Done n/t
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:10 AM
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3. Can you believe it????
This is so scary. How would we know if any outbreak really did occur anyway? I don't believe a thing they say. This is plan B for military control of the country in case everyone finds out how corrupt and criminal this adm is.
They would not give up the WH without a war in the US.
Don't mean to be so paranoid, but hey this has been going in this direction since 2000. Clear signs to me.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:26 AM
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10. Not just you! It's incredible
but true as far as I'm concerned.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:11 AM
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4. It's being freeped. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:18 AM
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5. 53% in favor of militarization of US
Fucking imbeciles! :grr:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:20 AM
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6. Seriously- is he Hitler yet?
This isn't the first time we've had a bad flu going around. He's the first son of a bitch who's tried to use it as an excuse for getting rid of Posse Comitatus though.

The little shit is a fascist.
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A-Possum Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:20 AM
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7. People really don't know history
They don't even know what this country is about and why anymore.

Jeez.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:23 AM
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8. The wording of the poll makes if seem that an "emergency" really makes it
ok to use the military - and that it would be for policing part is nothing. Very misleading.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:28 AM
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11. You're right..at first glance..if
you didn't know better like the activists.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:47 AM
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12. Yes, and it only asks if the military should "have a role"
Very misleading.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:25 AM
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9. 47% say NO to
53% saying yes..Who are these people that want martial law?
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:51 AM
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13. Done - still 53 pro, 47 against
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 12:52 AM by neweurope

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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oldgrowth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:04 AM
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14. Poorly worded the National guard can but Army ect. can't n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:59 AM
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15. great post. did poll, more on the article
From the article:

But Dr. Irwin Redlener, associate dean of Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health and director of its National Center for Disaster Preparedness, told The Associated Press the president's suggestion was dangerous.

Giving the military a law enforcement role would be an "extraordinarily Draconian measure" that would be unnecessary if the nation had built the capability for rapid vaccine production, ensured a large supply of anti-virals like Tamiflu and not allowed the degradation of the public health system.

"The translation of this is martial law in the United States," Redlener said.

And Gene Healy, a senior editor at the conservative Cato Institute, said Bush would risk undermining "a fundamental principle of American law" by tinkering with the act, which does not hinder the military's ability to respond to a crisis.

"What it does is set a high bar for the use of federal troops in a policing role," he wrote in a commentary on the group's Web site. "That reflects America's traditional distrust of using standing armies to enforce order at home, a distrust that's well-justified."





Should there be a U.S. law enforcement role for the military during domestic emergencies?

Yes............53%...70127 votes

No.............47%...61975 votes

Total: 132102 votes

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