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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:45 AM
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Bill Clinton says Iraq "looks like a quagmire"
Multiple sources for this already, but this was the first one I found:

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/353070p-300957c.html


Bubba: Iraq war's 'a quagmire'


BY KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - Former President Bill Clinton says Iraq "looks like a quagmire," and estimates "the odds are not great of our prevailing there."

But, speaking for an interview that appears in the November issue of Ladies Home Journal, Clinton qualified his quagmire remark by saying, "It's not Vietnam."

"The reason this is not Vietnam is that 58% of the eligible voters showed up and voted in Iraq," Clinton told the magazine. The South Vietnamese government was "never legitimate" in the eyes of the Vietnamese, he said.


<snip>

"Having said that, it could go wrong," Clinton admitted. "Since the end of World War II, the only major foreign power that succeeded in putting down an insurgency was the British putting down the Malay insurgency, but the British stayed 15 years.

<snip>



The "odds are not great of our prevailing there" comment was made after that reference to history.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:49 AM
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1. So does the republican party, for that matter.
Talk about a dysfunctional family, they are it.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:52 AM
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2. looks like a quagmire
but, on the other hand it's the kind of quagmire we can "go with" right bill?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:15 AM
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7. How Did You Interpret It That Way?
He referenced to 15 years in Malay, and that it could still go sour. I don't see how you arrived at the conclusion that he thinks it's ok to stick it out.
The Professor
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:33 AM
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9. I don't know doc, you tell me...
"But no one has been clearer than President Clinton about the necessity of winning now that we are there."
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:36 AM
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10. That's Not What He Said
I saw that too. But, that isn't a quote from him in this article. I can understand now how you arrived at that conclusion, but i wouldn't agree that he has ever said anything that would make me arrive at the same place.

No offense. I just didn't understand how you came to that. Now i do. We just don't concur.
The Professor
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:05 AM
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3. 58% of Iraqis or was that number really split between Kurds and Shiites?
There is no such thing as an Iraqi. There are Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds, and other minority groups. The Shiites are the majority and want to do to the rest of the groups what the Sunnis did to them.

Bill needs to get his head out of Bush's behind.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:06 AM
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4. And it quacks like a quagmire, and it walks like a quagmire
I bet it's a quagmire!
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:09 AM
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5. He's fronting for Hillary's imminent change in position on Iraq,
also based on Hillary's "we'll see" answer to a reporters post-Cindy's-visit question about troop numbers there and the viability of sending more.
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:14 AM
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6. very well could be.... hmmmm. n/t
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:24 AM
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8. How can he say it's not worse than Vietnam. The election was a sham.
People are being killed and live in terror every minute there.

I can't compare the two wars either, but unecessary death is murder and genocide, and this makes two for our country.

We must act like grown ups. Its time to change our "foreign policy", and its time for our leaders, like Bill Clinton to quit playing Switzerland and being so selfish and opportunistic, and be honest.


We have either got to learn from history or this planet will be destroyed or uninhabitable in a very short time. We are not stupid. We must look at the patterns which are destroying our world and change those patterns to ways in which we can heal and mend the damage thats been done.

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