Re: the Torture amendment.... .. and the role of contractors..

annabanana

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Thu Oct-06-05 10:51 AM
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Re: the Torture amendment.... .. and the role of contractors..

Are Rummy's boys busy fashioning a "work-around" to make it possible for them to use contractor-owned facilities so the prisoners are not "technically" in our custody?

Is there anything in the wording of McCain's amendment that would address the possibility?

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tompayne1

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Thu Oct-06-05 10:54 AM
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1. hahaha

and wee could outsource the torture to Blackwater or some other PSF.

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annabanana

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Thu Oct-06-05 10:57 AM
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2. I'm not kidding..

There has been precious little coverage on the role of CACI and Titan in the documented torture...

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tompayne1

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Thu Oct-06-05 10:58 AM
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3. i was being saracastic

this admin does not care about people

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leveymg

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Thu Oct-06-05 11:03 AM
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4. I thought that's what "extraordinary" rendition was for?

Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 11:07 AM by leveymg

Does the McCain Bill address that? Also, to address your question, unless the statute says something all-inclusive like "no officer, employee, or agent of the US Government or its agencies, or US person shall order, carry out, aid, abet, or diect torture, etc." be sure that there is a loophole. Look at how they got around the Boland Amendment - they'll just farm it out to Third Countries.

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tompayne1

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Thu Oct-06-05 11:14 AM
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5. yeah but you don't make stooges richer from extraordinary rendition

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leveymg

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Thu Oct-06-05 11:19 AM
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6. I thought that was part of the $30 million we just paid Uzbekistan?

Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 11:21 AM by leveymg

That's a lot of hard currency for a Central Asian despot. Can buy a lot of large cooking pots with that - call it infrastructure improvement, and the World Bank will throw in a matching grant.

Oh, you mean American stooges. Well, 30 mil won't even cover the cost of a decent corporate townhouse and business jet. You're right.

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tompayne1

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Thu Oct-06-05 11:25 AM
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7. didn't Usbekistan just give US forces the boot?

I could have sworn i saw something to that effect. I guess they are kinda irrelevant now though.

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leveymg

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Thu Oct-06-05 11:38 AM
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8. Yes, but we're paying them for the torture services, anyway. Don't

want to get a reputation as a bad credit risk. Who knows when we'll need such things from others again.

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tompayne1

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Thu Oct-06-05 12:50 PM
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9. I have heard things about russia being available for that sor t of thing

bigger place to hide people anyway.

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