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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:52 PM
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The Rove callback must be a direct result of Judy's testimony,
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 02:53 PM by tgnyc
right? Otherwise, why would Fitzgerald need to hear from him yet again at this late date? Is doesn't seem likely that Judy has much on Karl directly, not like Libby. So does this not seem like Fitzgerald just trying to put a bow on the Libby package?
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:59 PM
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1. Then why would prosecuter specify no (edit) guarantee of no of indictment?
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 03:10 PM by DLnyc
Sounds more like Rove is facing indictment (maybe perjury/obstructing?) and is being given a chance to 'cooperate' (i.e. squeal).

On edit: oops, I meant no guarantee of NO indictment.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:04 PM
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8. He didn't specify no chance of indictment
quite the reverse, Rove's testimony will not exclude him from a future endictment from what I have read and heard.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:07 PM
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12. Prosecutoer [sic] did NOT specify no chance of indictment
Furthermore, this stuff is a leak, not official.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:16 PM
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16. I wonder if he would squeal
on Bush to save his own ass.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:00 PM
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2. Not, Rove could be responding to the pressure of a warning letter
It may, and in my opinion, have nothing to do with Miller's testimony.

I doubt it is about Libby.

IMHO Rove is caving in to the pressure the warning letter represents, he is hoping to give useful testimony in order to get "consideration" from the prosecution.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:00 PM
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3. I don't think Rove is being called back. This re-testimony is his idea.
Perhaps he will tell the truth this time.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:02 PM
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4. Rove tell the truth? Surely you jest. More like Rove save his own ass
and that of The Patron
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:12 PM
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14. Probably just a new set of lies.
I suppose it would be hard for KKKarl to understand that Fitzgerald and the grand jury might be harder to spin than the audience of Faux news.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:14 PM
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15. Rove is an accomplished liar and arrogant about it.
I think he could believe that he has the ability to spin the GJ.

And God Save the Republic, he MIGHT!!!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:03 PM
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5. After Matt Cooper
testified, Rove's lawyer called Fitzgerald and asked if he needed to see Karl again. (Cooper's testimony was about Rove. Miller's was not.) Fitzgerald informed Rove's lawyer that he would contact him if Karl was needed.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:05 PM
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9. Is it, like, a do-over? If they have proof that he lied in previous
testimony, but this time he tells the truth, does that cancel out the perjury?

I can't wait till this all comes out. The speculation is killing me.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:06 PM
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10. CNN just reported Rove's lawyer saying that Fitzgerald asked
Rove to appear again, it was not Rove, via his lawyer, contacting Fitz volunteering to testify.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:19 PM
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17. Yahoo News said "prosecutors accepted Rove offer to testify".
Rove's lawyer is a known spinner.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:27 PM
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18. In this case,
Rove's lawyers spoke both on and off the record. It is true that after Cooper testified, Rove made the generous offer. Fitzgerald made clear that he was calling the shots. Rove is feeling pressured.
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:03 PM
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6. Rove asked to go back in July..
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 03:04 PM by back2basics909
.. just after Coopers testimony. Wonder if he was trying to undo some of the conflicting testimony at that stage. Fitz turned him down then, waiting for Miller.

So he is either asking him back for clarification, or to try and get him to slip up.

This is a roller coaster but my gut is telling me that this says the case is less water tight than I previously thought it was.

He knows Rove will not flip. Rove must know the case very well by now, who in their little gang said what. So I don't understand why they would get him back now, unless the case is not actually over.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:04 PM
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7. Not Necessarily...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/plamegate-the-next-step_b_8447.html

Check out Larry O'Donnell's post...Fitzgerald could be looking to split Rove & Libby. Miller's testimony probably sealed the deal on the indictments, if they weren't a done deal beforehand...now Fitzgerald is seeing if Rove will drop something on Libby to save his own ass or if his story will stay stay the same after all these months.

This appears to be a two-headed investigation here. The first focuses on the Executive...meaning Rove...and his getting the name and leaking it to Cooper (via that AF1 Memo). The other is focusing on Libby and the Iraq group...Judy Miller's pals...and their Crashcart boss who was all but living at the CIA in those days and had the means, opportunity and motive to slime Plame.

Stay tuned...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:08 PM
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13. Divide and conquer
That is exactly what Fitzgerald is doing and it seems like Rove's been backed into a corner.

It will be interesting to see who wags his tongue the most now that they all face serious jail time.

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:07 PM
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11. If Miller is a media asset of Operation Mockingbird
which itself is illegal as a domestic operation...then everyone is scurrying around trying to get themselves into this intelligence umbrella in some way. This boomerangs as soon as you realize the impeachable charges agains Nixon were abusing federal agencies (CIA).

The potential here is that if Judy leads any trails to rogue operations within the CIA (lies for war) the vengeful elements still in the CIA and other agencies related will have to be rooted out. Only Fitzgerald's investigation can 'go there' along with the OIG of the CIA (who doesn't dare, it seems).
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