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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:20 PM
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Attn Chuck & Hillary: I Want an Investigation of the Fake Terror Alerts!!!
Bush & Cheney have to STOP THREATENING NEW YORK right this minute. You must FORCE them to show you the EVIDENCE behind today's alert. It costs MONEY every time they do this. It takes a psychological toll on a city that still has PTSD. I want them to knock it off right now. Remember last summer when they said a four year old map found in a laptop somewhere in Afghanistan was enough of a threat to shut down the Citicorp building? That was in advance of the RNC in NY and served to allow them to elevate security here against the protestors. Now they are threatening us again and it's pretty clear why. I worked hard for both of you. Especially you, Chuck, in '98. So do this for me. CALL THEIR BLUFF. DEMAND THE EVIDENCE. I don't need to see it. If you're satisfied, I'm satisfied. But I want an investigation NOW.
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:22 PM
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1. Excuse my ignorance, but whow the hell is Chuck??
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:22 PM
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2. Schumer
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:23 PM
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5. Ah... (bangs head on table)
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 04:23 PM by bj2110
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:22 PM
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3. Chuck Schumer, the OTHER NY Senator
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:23 PM
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chuck shumer
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:23 PM
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4. Sentor Schumer
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:23 PM
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6. Schumer. NY Senator (as is Hillary)
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:24 PM
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7. ok, damn, I got it... lol...
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:30 PM
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13. Ha! Sorry about that. We all replied within seconds of each other.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:25 PM
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8. Absolutely! CNN said DHS doesn't know anything about it!
Either there is NO threat, or we need to add another failure to the administration's failures. The most recent...FEMA, now Dept of Homeland Security!
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:26 PM
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10. Well then it might be real...
if DHS knows nothing, since they're pretty much clueless about everything.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:49 PM
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18. That made me larf!
:hi:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:01 PM
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20. That is EXACTLY what happened just before the Dem Convention
in Boston. Remember? Tom Ridge hadn't a clue about the threat to NYC buildings and the financial district. Meanwhile it was so threatening that the shrub had Laura and the girls campaigning in one of the targeted buildings.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:09 PM
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23. Just some lowly republican congressman making crank calls
:)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:25 PM
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9. You know if you guys didn't have a 29% approval rating for Bush
....this wouldn't be a problem.

Add to the fact that indictments will soon be handed out for the Valerie Plame incident AND the spy story fell flat yesterday they had to do something.

ANd let's face it - we know that red states aren't terrorist targets except for by Xtian Fundamentalists!

:shrug:
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:43 PM
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16. i take every poll..believe approval is at 13-17% solid...the rest is bogus
just my opinion..but early polls seem to be legitimate to me ...before they get freeped or whatever...and i dont see the reported 29-42%...just dont believe it...
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dretceterini Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:21 AM
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44. Not true
The police were more than a bit overactive at the last protest on Sept 24th, lead my Mayor Rocky Anderson, where he not only attacked the Chimp and his circus, but the press for all their inaccurate or purely false reporting...and this was in the reddest state in the US. Orin Hatch hates Rocky almost as much as I hate Bushco.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:28 PM
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11. Anybody have a link to where Ashcroft said some alerts were BS?
It was (obviously) after he quit/was forced out.

Reference to this might be useful in any email campaign and/or petition drive. I very much agree Chuck and Hillary should be pressured on this. If they want national exposure, they need to do real work for there actual constituents first.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:30 PM
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12. Quickly...
Another billion cc's of fear nurse , Stat !
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:47 PM
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17. Thank you Stephanie! Lets start calling Schumer & Clinton
I'm fed up with this too. The "terror alerts" stopped after the election, now that Rove is in trouble, it's starting again...way too obvious.

You're so right...lets start asking Clinton & Schumer to get some "proof".

Let's face it, "real terrorists" would be looking at Texas if they want to score a punch at bush.

Or maybe in one of the states that voted for bush..where fear knows no bounds when it comes to terrorists or gays. The " Plastic& Duct Tape" states. Not only are bush's approval ratings in the toilet here, none of the states most effected by 9/11 voted for him in 2004.

Ironic isnt it..that Rice claimed the August 6,2001 PDB stating "Bin Laden determined to attack in the U.S." was considered "historic" in 2001...yet 4 year old threats become "present" when its an election year of 2004. And of course now that Rove's in trouble..here we go again!

I'm so pissed. All of us should call.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:03 PM
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21. I can't remember the site, but someone charted the terror alerts to bush's
poll numbers and stumblings during the 2004 race. They all matched up perfectly.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:40 PM
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14. would be interesting to actually chart the coincidental terror alerts
and orange alerts, subway alerts, anthrax alerts, etc...with political shenanigans...i saw it before we officially went to war...unfriggin believable...we were on orange alert in jan/feb 03 before officially going to war...would love to see some of the scientific/techie minds out there graph this bullcrap...
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:05 PM
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22. Somebody did it on the net during the 2004 Presidential Race. Just can't
remember who did it. Going to check the archives here.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:10 PM
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24. Juliusblog through August 2004
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:19 PM
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27. thanks ..this is just one of the many reasons i love DU..n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:31 PM
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28. Your welcome! I couldn't get into the archives but I remembered where I
saw it!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:41 PM
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15. And bloomberg should make
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 04:41 PM by zidzi
sure they're real, too..instead of going along with this rubbish.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:53 PM
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19. unless Bloomberg is
pulling a page from the bush playbook. He is getting alot of heat for ducking a debate in Harlem tonight against his opponent.
Maybe it's a diversion? Just a thought. I'm not saying I believe it.

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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:18 PM
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25. OmmmSweetOmmm.. think Howard Dean made the connection
I'm looking around the internet to see what I can find. Any NY'er will tell you, there hasn't been a terror alert since the election.

Bush may be trying to scare us because of Rove..but either way, how stupid does he look now? Guess the war in Iraq didnt stop the terrorists from "fighting there instead of here" Just ask London.

I'll keep checking back to see if you find anything or I do. Thanks!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:38 PM
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29. Hi Sleepless! I posted it above. Here is the link again!
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 05:39 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html#109174332697993966

If Dean has made the connection, I want him to yell to high heavens, but you know something? Most DUers have more information/knowledge and commonsense in their little pinkies than most politicians.

There is No Doubt in my mind that they are trying to scare not only NYers but that fear extends all over the country. Fear, terror and being PROTECTED from those emotions give these MFers control over the masses. A terrorist technique used from the beginning of "civilization".

One also has to remember that "protecting us" had consistently polled high for the shrub. He has no out but to pull this stunt, or worse, create an incident. I believe the shrub was involved with MIHOP.
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staticstopper Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:45 PM
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32. I think it was Tom Ridge who said
he was pressured to issue unsubstantiated warnings/claims during the election and conventions while he was head of HomeLand???
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:27 PM
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37. I think that's right
It's really pissing me off!
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:18 PM
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26. OmmmSweetOmmm.. think Howard Dean made the connection
I'm looking around the internet to see what I can find. Any NY'er will tell you, there hasn't been a terror alert since the election.

Bush may be trying to scare us because of Rove..but either way, how stupid does he look now? Guess the war in Iraq didnt stop the terrorists from "fighting there instead of here" Just ask London.

I'll keep checking back to see if you find anything or I do. Thanks!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:41 PM
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30. Yes, he is drawing heat about not showing up for the debate, so this suits
him as well as it does the Shrub. His chance to try to appear a little Rudi Giulliarish.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:43 PM
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31. Some interesting reports on Lou Dobbs
The reporter talking with FBI insiders say that the FBI doesn't feel as though the threats were credible or even something that was doable.

Then the reporter who was at the Pentagon says that the info was gathered a few days ago from a raid that took place in Iraq. The Pentagon source, so says the reporter, said that the raid was on Al Quiada that was operating in Iraq. :eyes:


This stinks to high heaven. Wasn't it a few days ago when bush* decided to make a "major" press statement? It all sounds orchestrated.


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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:00 PM
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33. Show that you have some gonads, people
Unless you are in on it, in which case, I'll expect to hear nothing.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:06 PM
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34. chuck and hil feel the need to appear STRONG ON TERRA!!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 06:46 PM by leftchick
they will be singing the DLC/REPUKE terra song. Guaranteed!

:grr: :banghead: :grr:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:20 PM
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35. I will go to Brooklyn and kick Chuck's ASS this weekend
if he doesn't get on this - I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:07 PM
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36. Well, if they don't investigate it must mean that they trust Bushco.
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:01 AM
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38. Don't forget, fake alert resulted in outing a CIA agent. (Not Plame.)
When they tried to justify the alert, a different agent working to defend the US was outed. Everyone seems to have forgotten about that. It also served as a campaign photo-op for Laura and the Bush twins to pass out cookies and thank everyone for coming to work.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:02 AM
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39. Right - was that the Khan case?
they blew the whole investigation by announcing it - London was pissed? Is that the one? Brain is full.
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:11 AM
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40. Not sure. Anyone else know? Why don't we remember? Could it be...
...the MSM doesn't want us to remember? Or that he doesn't have a Joe Wilson? I mean, the hypocrisy. Repubs ran on a supposed platform of protecting our country...
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:32 AM
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41.  OmmmSweetOmmm thank you for the link!
and you're right bloomberg is probably using it to cover up not showing up for the debate! I hate what they are doing to this city, it's not right. Calling Schumer & Clinton today..probably won't do much good, but I'll do it anyway. Thanks again for the link, I appreciate it!
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:37 AM
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42. Stephanie LOL!!! you have some spirit!
Kick schumer's ass! LOL! Dont blame you, I'd like to do that too! Calling their offices today... I know..won't do much good, but it will make me feel better anyway. They are saying now its not a "credible" threat... Surprise! Grrr! Makes u mad, doesnt it? Its either bush's low poll ratings, Rove or Bloomie ducking out of the debate..probably all 3! Anyways take care!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:52 AM
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43. Bloomberg did this, not Bush.
Bitch at him fer chrissakes!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:09 PM
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45. Bloomberg is Bush's bitch
Didn't you hear about the party he threw for him last August? Handed over Manhattan to republicans and locked up any New Yorkers who made a stink about it.
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