If Roe v Wade Was Overturned... What Would Be The REAL Effect?

Does that mean that abortions would suddenly become 100% ILLEGAL throughout the US?

... for the sole purpose of getting an abortion? Or would they be governed and restricted by the laws of their home state?

If not, they would probably do it illegally in a less than safe environment.

cross state lines for an abortion. Anyone helping them is also committing a felony. Who knows if a state would pass a law that it was illegal for anyone to cross state lines for an abortion. Six years ago, I would have said that was impossible. Now???

would prevent states from making it illegal for adults to cross the state line to get an abortion.

women with some means would travel to places where it's legal..Medical insurance would not cover it (does it now??)
Fertility would suffer, since you would be playing russian roulette and hoping that your "doctor" was good..

Nothing would change for the rich.. their daughters, wives, girlfriends, granddaughters have always had access to "appendectomies"

full fledge human beings, then couldn't they then declare that to abort was considered homicide?

and a fetus is, but don't they declare the destruction of a fetus homicide at times? Like Lacy Peterson? I don't know what the exact ramifications would be, but it wouldn't be good.

was also a states issue, how long did it take them to over throw that? Federal Law now overrides State law.

You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.

All those young "I'm not a feminist" women in their late 20s, early 30s would discover feminism really quickly.

TWO-FOUR-SIX-EIGHT, WE'RE the ones who ov-u-late!!!!

in Red states get screwed. They loose options.
Rich women will do what they did before Roe,
go to the hospital for a D&C.

to travel hundreds of miles because so few GYNs perform abortions.

abortion would NOT be made illegal throughout the US.

Some states would try to ban it (but then the battles would be in the state courts and dealing with the state constitutions).

The most populous states would probably leave things as they are.

Politically, it would mean the end of GOP rule for a generation.

That means if you are rich, connected or have relatives in NY or CA then you might have access. But poor or lower middle class in the MidWest or South...forget it. And then Aid to Dependent Mothers and Welfare increases and the 'pubs get bitch about that some more.

Of course they could take the babies, put the mothers in the poor house....think of all that free labor.

were pretty liberal about the circumstances under which abortion was legal, pre-Roe v. Wade.

Ol' Jesse was a staunch defender of the right to an abortion on demand. The only thing I can figure is he was of the Bill Bennett school of thought.

would have massive organizations developed to move poor people to states that allow abortions.

They better, or what use would they be?

I wouldn't be surprised if my home state of Michigan, for instance, made it illegal. There will be large expanses of the country where it would be prohibited... perhaps everywhere but a few coastal states. Which means illegal and dangerous abortions and newborns in dumpsters. :(

of states...those states that currently allow abortion would probably continue to do so and those that don't never will.

doctor-patient privacy. As it should be, not a law!

However, I think the rape exception will still be in place-it was even before Roe v Wade, as was aborting to save the life of a mother.

What would happen would be that poor people would have unwanted children while rich people would go overseas where they could get abortions. Teenage girls would go to back alley abortionists or try to abort themselves--a certain number of them will die or become infertile.

Abortions, being illegal, will attract the Mafia (which is out to make money by any means) and it will strengthen crime families.

Women who are found to have had an abortion could, conceivably, be imprisoned, so that the rest of their lives will be wrecked.

If Roe v Wade were overturned and the rape exception still stood, how would it be determined that the fetus was conceived by this act of violence?

Do we put the woman through yet another traumautic experience where she has to go before a judge or some board of approvers before she can get that abortion? How long would this take?

I can see there being a board of approvers, and the board being stacked with anti-choicers out there who can drag the approval process until....

Sorry, lady, can't grant you that abortion. You're in the third trimester.

If there are any excuses that the antis accept, it blows their whole "but it's a BABY" argument out of the water. There are acceptable (to them) reasons, so the thing to do is operate on the principle that all women seeking abortion are aborting for the so-called "right reasons". it isn't anyone else's business and no woman is required to enlighten them.

This is why I favor no restrictions. Because I can't dictate to another person why or why not, even though there are reasons I'd personally find reprehensible.

If the SCOTUS found as part of their decision that life begins at any time between conception and birth, then the result would be a Federal ban on abortion (I'm guessing under Section 1 of the 14th amendment)...

" All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

If not they could rule in favor of States rights and leave it up to those legislatures to decide.

for more crap.

It was actualy passed for a very specific reason.

The Thirteenth Amendment freed the slaves.
The Fourteenth Amendment made freed slaves citizens.
The Fifteenth Amendment gave freed slaves (males) the right to vote.

Somehow this amendment has been used to justify everything from corporate personhood to the right to an abortion.

The same approach to the Constitution also got us the New Deal and the Civil Rights Act.

Is the real one size fits all legal doctrine.

If they (the Feds), can't ban, outlaw, prohibit or regulate something
any other way, just rule (even by the narrowest definition possible),
that interstate commerce is effected.

Makes me wonder about the likelihood of the following scenario...

The SCOTUS takes the less controversial road and leaves the abortion question up to the States.

Obviously certain States will ban or severely restrict the procedure post haste.

Women seeking an abortion who reside in those states will have to travel elsewhere.

The "moralists" in the anti-choice states will be livid and attempt to close that particular "loophole". All it would take is just one State legislature to pass an (unenforceable), law prohibiting women residing in their State from traveling to a state where abortion is available.

It would become a major legal challenge and would work it's way up the appeals process until it reached the SCOTUS which could further regulate abortion under the Commerce clause.

Disclaimer: I'm hardly an authority on the US Constitution, so I could be way off base here. Although if they can rule that the seizing of property for private use is allowed under eminent domain, then any ruling is possible.

Of this, I am certain.

that's the way it is now, isn't it

concerning the right to privacy. Roe v Wade was decided based on an implicit right to privacy that the justices found in the Constitution.

I don't have time to elaborate here, but I'm sure you can just imagine the repercussions.

I think the real danger would be its turning the US into 50 warring nation states (even more than they are now). When someone goes from Georgia to New York for an abortion, is New York culpable for the "crime"? It wouldn't take many years for this to grow into immediate conflict between states.

If a person goes from Alabama to Nevada and visits a legal brothel, he doesn't get arrested when he returns to Alabama. You have to follow the rules of the state you're in, and nother state can't areest you for breaking one of its laws if you weren't in that state. It would lack juristiction.

Well, I don't mean that specific instance - that was just an example - but the concept is the same. Right now we have DA's in Idaho and Alabama who would dearly love to prosecute adult websites in California and New York, but they can't due to the current Federal climate. Pretty soon the question of what equates to "real and certain" threat on the culture of various states would enter into the question. The values and opinions of one state will bump into the values and opinions of the others. Borders will be questioned and, pretty soon, we'll have a semi-feudalistic situation developing. Where we had a cohesive (if chaotic) system, we'll have 50 (at worst) warring tribes.

If Gays can't pass State lines and be married, If you can't go to another country and bring back medications..I really don't believe States are going to open their doors for a medical procedure and a personal choice.

Women are left to suffer, while more clinics would be targets for terrorism because the radical fundies would believe their cause is just.

that 51% of the population would wake up with 1 less right then they
had when they went to sleep the night before......that tends to weigh heavily on the mind of an American.....

Prolife will be declared as a national religion with each state will vote as too which religion it should be. Think of it as kind of like a state bird thing. IE. Illinois might be a methodist state.
Texas bapist you know what I mean. Abortion is just a foot in the door people. Science will take a back seat to theology and every medical procedure will have to be approved by the local church heads.

This is a nightmare scenario and not my wish for the country. Just fyi.

the majority voting block again?

Believe it or not, it's about the 8-10% of the electorate that gives the Republicans their current majorities and this section is generally moderate on social issues. If abortion became a state issue and the Republicans were on the side of making it illegal, then the Republican coalition would collapse.

I do not i repeat donot want to see roe over turned. However it will back fire and give the dem party the kick in the ass it needs to get new voters in the system.

They'd still have the newest hot issue: Gay marriage, remember it was the trump card they played in 2004.

only 2-3 states would actually ban abortion.

Others would make laws around the edges like parental notification and waiting periods and mandatory counseling.

That is Springer's theory anyway. Without Roe v. Wade it becomes a state issue. Therefore everyone running for every state legislature will have to add where they stand on this issue to their platform, as will many statewide offices. Since the vast majority of people support choice Springer thinks this will kill the pukes on the state level.

about this recently. I was only half listening, but the speaker said abortion was only part of the issue. Many other decisions/rulings/laws have grown out of or been based on Roe v Wade. Overturning Roe v Wade would tie up the courts for years.

the poor would revert to home/alley abortions. Just as before Roe.

Still a divider of the people for decades to come.

Some states would embrace abortion freedom, while others would restrict or ban it outright.

law be possible?

constitutional rights.

They could also declare a carrot a person, by the way making certain stews illegal to eat.

You think it's not possible?

I think it's entirely possible.

The practical effect? Rich republicans get abortions in Europe. The poor provide lots of unwanted babies that "tough on crime" types can execute when they turn 16.

NARAL has a whole part of their web site dedicated to state laws:http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/yourstate/whodecides/maps/abortion_bans.cfm

One on the way into Indiana selling wire hangers, and one on the way into Ohio selling turkey basters.