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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:29 PM Original message |
Democrats Need Not Waste Their Time With Plans Or Programs |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. I disagree. The average American won't buy into negativity and simple |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It worked for the Republicans, didn't it... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. And I dont recall Bush laying out too many detailed plans either. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Bush/Rove was a million times more negative than Kerry. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. But that's not how it was sold. It was sold on protection, values, etc. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. No, that is exactly how it was sold- those are specific examples. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Exactly ! |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. And we could do it to them, but without the anger, fraud & lying. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Yes. |
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Gyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:41 PM Original message |
Kerry never really said "they suck and here's why" in a soundbite |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think that works if the people know you are telling the truth... |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. You know, people fundamentally know the Democrats have good plans, but |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. pretty close to the Shrum strategy from the 2004 election.... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I would prefer well-thought out solutions to our problems..... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. without solutions we have no record that is not history.... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yes, but we are talking about winning and losing elections.... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I am as torn as others over whether to choose strategy or substance |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. We do not run without ideas.... |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I don't think you and I disagree.... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I do not suggest we run with plans or solutions to our problems... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. How about the idea some DUer had for a "Bullshit catcher" |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yes... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
16. I disagree; that approach doesn't work in the rest of life either |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Wrong. We don't "compare" ourselves to Republicans ... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. A semantic difference to most people, including me |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. But you have to verbalize the differences... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Well, I'm certainly not arguing for an absolute here |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. You are right- the public wants to be told in broad strokes |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
25. Paint pictures |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. "Write for radio" is an excellent way to put it |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
27. That's why I like Dean. He attacks them, exposes them, |
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chelsea fc (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Dean |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. He's right. That's all I care about. n/t |
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chelsea fc (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
31. Agreed |
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