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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:53 PM Original message |
PETA: Is J. Crew selling you fur made from dogs and cats? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. dunno why different cultures call the same animal "pet" or "meat". |
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MildyRules (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Agree, fur is fur. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Why is ok to kill either the poddle or the leopard? |
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MildyRules (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. It is |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. from a purely pragmatic view: leopards are more rare, dogs plentiful. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Deleted sub-thread |
AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. I don't think the comment is that this is somehow worse than any other |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. I was just musing aloud, not targeting any post in particular. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. Look at horsemeat...we are trying like mad to get the horsemeat |
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expatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. its all about what you allow into your "circle of compassion" |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. why is a dog more worthy of love than a leopard? |
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expatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. no, i agree... I am just talking about people's perceptions. |
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satireV (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
76. Actually you CAN logically deny it. |
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freeplessinseattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. how do we know humans have emotions? |
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mimitabby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
92. killing leopards and wolves for fur is wrong too |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. It ain't just them, it's WALMART and a zillion others |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I go with turtle skin, meself |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. I was wondering why I have been using a litter box. thanx |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Fox News/Pat Robertson tactics are used by PETA fanatics here. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Did you watch the video of the cats being skinned, LoZoccolo? |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Can't do it. I believe you. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Deleted message |
Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. My point is/was: |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. It is a rumor that J. Crew is selling you cat and dog fur. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Not a rumor. It's a legitimate question. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. People can ask any question they want. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. And you think claiming John McCain sired a black child out of wedlock was |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Don't change the subject and race-bait. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. The lengths some people will go to try to shut animal rights threads down |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I'm not the one using dirty tactics. n/t |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. If attempting to equate a legitimate question with a racist smear isn't |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Nope. n/t |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. but does J. Crew purchased fur-trimmed items from China? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Probably. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. But if I purchase something from a questionable source |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I would think the same would apply to questionable information sources. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. but in this case, they have video of the practice. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. They have video of skinning cats. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. and of the cat fur stretched out on racks to dry |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Well, yeah. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. most of the masses don't keep cows as pets. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Oh, so it's all about emotion. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. oh please. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I guess that the BBC fell for it too, then: |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. The BBC article makes no mention of J. Crew. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Easy enough to connect the dots. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I don't have to own the board... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Okay, |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I'm not telling you what conversation you can be in on. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Your post, #40 in this thread |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Right. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Strawman response. Yawn. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Right I said what I said. |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. The only cat fur I want is on a live kitty! |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. What part of the posted article do you find inaccurate? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. The implication that J. Crew sells cat fur. n/t |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Why? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I don't have to prove a negative charge against J. Crew. n/t |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. What charge are you talking about? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. The implication that J. Crew sells cat fur. n/t |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. Let's say fur going to JCrew isn't from cats/dogs, it's still from China & |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Most people wouldn't care. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Don't know that it's "most" - some obviously don't but anti-fur is growing |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. PETA thinks my grandma should have died. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Where exactly did PETA state that. Or, are you inferring. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. They don't believe in animal research and stuff. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. So if I support the political activism industry, then I must |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Then you're implying that I wanted your Grandma to die too |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. My argument was not serious. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. What on earth does that have to do w/the connection between JCrew |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. There IS a connection! |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. If there's a connection, please explain it to me. |
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ErisFiveFingers (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:48 AM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Why would a Wookie live on Endor? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. Oh No! I'm a "terrist"! n./t |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. I agree with your comments on manipulative statements, but there are facts |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. What is the matter with people? I realize there are different customs |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. One more reason to be glad... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. i saw the cat fur crap in walmart several years ago |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. Harrod's in London and Burlington Coat Factory just started |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. is it labeled as dog fur? |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. Can't say it bothers me... |
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expatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. watch this video |
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tatertop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wool, maybe. Alpaca or Lama hair, fine. Fur, never. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Wool is not cruelty-free - it's a common misconception that it is - |
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tatertop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. It can be cruelty free and some are working toward that goal |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. Heather Mills McCartney website: |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. Wouldn't this be easy to figure out |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Probably wouldn't even need that. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
32. And lots of people will read that and conclude |
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expatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. compassion starts at home... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
55. useless killing |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
57. They sell guanaco, too (listed on the CITES II Schedule) |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
58. I have to question everything that comes out of PETA these days |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Some of what you said isn't true. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
94. There was a MSM documentary about this years ago re: another store |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
95. Horrible. |
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Opusnone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Here, here. |
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PinkyisBlue (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
97. PETA |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
98. I recently bought a couple of thongs from JCrew... |
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ErisFiveFingers (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:54 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I've gotten to know a few coyotes over the years... |
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