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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:10 PM Original message |
UK headline; "IS THIS THE DEATH OF AMERICA?" |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. America has never been America for people of color and |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. nt |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. good for you |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Amen, amen, and amen. |
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LuCifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. Sad, but true... |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 02:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
68. Half a Million went to Washington DC, but that was just a ... |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 02:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
66. Feel your gloom. Yes our problems are severe. I want my country back! |
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meti57b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think that tradition of flag-waving comes from our taking in so many ... |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. What a pretty kitty. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. One objection. My belief in America and it's ideals has not been undermine |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I agree |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Exactly |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Thank you. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Indeed. |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. Yes. We are better than the Bushies |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. We didn't suddenly hit 3rd world status #49 in infant mortality since bush |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Where do you see it start? I think it was with Reagan |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. It started before WW2. |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I agree with your point, can't fix a problem unless you admit you have one |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. We must EDUCATE ourselves and other Americans. |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 01:00 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Education is the key |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:16 AM Response to Reply #58 |
83. I'm not sure I understand |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Links |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 05:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
76. We deserve so much better than this. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 05:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
79. OUTSTANDING POST. nt |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
90. Yes and we my friend have to get the leadership. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
93. Well, ideals are such that they |
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PatrioticLeftie (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. As long as we cherish the ideals thousands have died for |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. That article is full of FACTS. |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Yep, meanwhile Bush and his supporters are singing |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It's like watching someone you love drive their car off a cliff... |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Yes, and their credo is "blessed are the meek for they shall |
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PatrioticLeftie (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. To Lynn: Notice the inclusion of 'some'? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Where did I say you had to |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Defensive? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. We're not discussing the good things, we're discussing the bad. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I'm not talking about discussion of issues |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:05 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Did you read the article??? |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I read the article, I'm discussing the thrust of its overall concept |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. EOM |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Please...we will *die* if we keep this fucked up attitude |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 03:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
71. But how much of what was said in the article, |
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greekspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. And they say Jimmy Carter's work depressed America |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. read between the lines |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. State Dept's official defender of America's image = chief propagandist |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. Accurate. "We're Number 1 !" Sad. We can recover. Lets go Dems. |
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LZ1234 (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Perhaps there would be hope if ... |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Is there ANYONE who can write better than the Brits? |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. "America" is confronting her fiction. She has been deceived. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. 2005; USA = #12 for freedoms, #14 for democracy, |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
81. It's the American people that make me despair |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. what an ass-kicking article... |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. NO. It is the defining moment when We The People ... realize that ... |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. While walking my dog tonight, it struck me that American women are |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
23. The death of democracy in America. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
26. The humbling of America -- Please God, let it be so! |
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degreesofgray (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
73. Reagan rescinded the fairness doctrine, |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
91. Thanks for the correction! (nt) |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. All empires eventually rot, crumble and fall |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Well said and welcome to DU, Golden Raisin |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Very well said. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
31. Chavez said, 19th century belonged to Europe, 20th century belonged to U.S |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. One thing I take issue with.... |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
39. Another instance of the truth being told in the foreign press as it will |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. And it's that very disconnect that is so incredibly dangerous to us. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
87. Ignorant. Arrogant. Hypocrites. That summarizes the world opinion of this |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. This is a stupid question, but |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Not stupid at all. Damn fine question. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
43. Depressing article, but |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
44. We have our problems but... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Oh come on... |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I agree, we have problems |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. We are not discussing the UK's problems. |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Yes, we are. I live it daily since 9/11 |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. IMO the very first thing we must do is |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:52 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. You're right about Infant Mortality |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 01:02 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Amen. From your lips to America's ears. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
49. It is for those of us from the Gulf Coast. |
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AlphaCat (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
67. I have more faith in America than that. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 02:52 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. America's problems go deeper than any one politician. |
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AlphaCat (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 05:41 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. I can agree with most of that. |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
70. OUCH, indeed. |
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ErisFiveFingers (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
72. 230(?) convicted for torture? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
74. Damn, the truth hits home, doesn't it? |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
75. Ouch that smarts, it's a blistering and honest article about the US. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 05:09 AM Response to Original message |
77. Survival depends upon facing reality. Americans not capable of that. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Until we have a national "come to jesus" moment nothing will change..and I |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:06 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Yes, getting rid of Bush will not solve anything....Americans must face |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
84. "Americans are the planet's biggest flag wavers" |
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tlsmith1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
85. They Hit it on the Nose |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
86. re writing |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
88. a kick for those who missed this essential article. |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
89. This question and article haunted my sleep last night! |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
92. Almost every Administration initiative has brought about a slow death of |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. Damn good article.n/t |
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JoZbean (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
96. Not just the article, but the discussion being held here and now! |
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