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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:14 AM
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Why Wingnuts Hate Miers:GOP Embarrassed To Be Seen With Fundies In Public
Edited on Sun Oct-09-05 10:26 AM by cryingshame
read somewheres this morning a statement from an extremist rightwing cleric, the reason they resent Miers is largely because it proves the GOP is embarrassed to be linked overtly to the Wingnuts.

The Wingnuts got their feelings hurt. And it's dawning on them tat their pet issues are only taken up for getting them to the polls on Election Day and then ignored.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:17 AM
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1. Why should they be any different from our wingnuts?
The Dems also string people along, the big difference is that we do tend to give a damn about people more than property......
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:21 AM
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2. they actually believed that the bushies meant what they were saying!

all the GOP wanted/wants is votes. votes and money.

except for the rich and powerful texas ranger types, the rest of the base are just pawns in the GOP's game. discarded after a one night stand, only to be wooed again come election time.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:21 AM
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3. That was in a NY Times article. Link & quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/09/weekinreview/09kirk.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1128871134-PpMfXUoCjSmpi+xrh6H6DA


But the backlash from religious conservatives over Ms. Miers has deeper roots and threatens to become an even more serious rupture for Mr. Bush and his party. "The president has walked a fine line wanting to keep us inside the family," said the Rev. Donald Wildmon, founder of the evangelical conservative Ameri-can Family Association, based in Tupelo, Miss. "But at the same time - I might as well say it - being embarrassed to be seen in public with us, and that is what we are seeing here." He added, "Republicans have a serious problem on their hands right now."
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:26 AM
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5. Bingo! And Thanks
:)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:27 AM
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7. "Code"?
The nomination of Ms. Miers demonstrated the fragility of a coalition built in part on code. The administration relied on subtle clues about her evangelical faith and confidential conversations with influential conservative Christians to enlist grass-roots support for Ms. Miers.

Subtle clues, nothing. They were overtly selling this woman as an evangelical to fundamentalists all over the country. Then the fundamentalists found out that she wasn't as fundamentalist as they would have liked.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:36 AM
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9. The ilk of falwell and
robertson are EMBARRASSING..if that's the kind they mean.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:22 AM
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4. It's morning. They're waking up. They sense the feeling they were used
and the GOP never calls them back.

Must suck to find out how cheap they are.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:02 AM
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6. GOP are Masters on how to scam/con peeps...
To Fool is to RULE

But one can only fool them if the Fools allow it to happen

Bushies credibility is gone....now he canardly fool anyone....

Bush is TOAST....name in there with other LOSERS...he had an Op to do Good things...but instead chose self interest...sign of a bad leader/ loser.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:34 AM
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8. That's a good way
to put it!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:37 AM
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10. "Alarmed"
And there was also pent-up aggression left over after the relatively uncontroversial confirmation of Chief Justice Roberts. Many conservative groups - especially those who rely on direct-mail fundraising - say they were disappointed that the administration did not pick a nominee with a clearer record, or at least pick a fight with the Democrats over why to confirm him.

"A whole lot of evangelical conservatives were eager for a rumble, to really fight it out with the devilish Dems," said Marvin Olasky, editor in chief of the evangelical magazine World and a former adviser to President Bush.


<snip>


"The left is picking up the signals," he said. "They are starting to get alarmed."

That, however, might not be all bad, he said. "It would actually help if the left was alarmed. That could heal the rift on the right."

I'm not alarmed. Is anybody here alarmed?
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:38 PM
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17. gee, they stamp their feet and rend their garments like 4 year olds
if they don't get their way and create a civil war:

"A whole lot of evangelical conservatives were eager for a rumble, to really fight it out with the devilish Dems," said Marvin Olasky, editor in chief of the evangelical magazine World and a former adviser to President Bush.

......they are truly mad, mad, frothing mad.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:51 AM
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11. Look, "Intellectuals" like George Will, and Frum, and Buckley
and Broder, and Krystol--even pseudo-intellectuals, like Coulter and most Faux pundits, don't like to be seen holding hands with their mind-numbingly stupid country cousins.

That are smart enough to realize that the bumpkins bring their images down.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:57 AM
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12. I Get An Image Of The Wingnuts As Mistresses Who Are Sick Of Meeting
their married man in cheap hotels.

They want a ring and external validation NOW. :)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:01 PM
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13. In Howard Dean's book, he quotes the Chimp as saying
"I hate those people"--referring to the religious right. It was when Dean and Bush were both governors.

The Chimp and Rove elected to manipulate ignorance for political gain. It worked for awhile. But even the most ignorant can finally tell when they've been conned.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:17 PM
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15. Oh, Dean Was Head Of Governors Or Something Wasn't He?
Edited on Sun Oct-09-05 12:17 PM by cryingshame
He must have all kinds of insight into various pols from meetings back then and such. It probably puts him in good position to do what he's doing now. As a "Big Picture" sort of guy.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:34 PM
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16. Yep.
His views and experiences re Chimpy were not necessarily what I expected. He knows governors and state governance, and has put emphasis on that.

He is not a "typical" Dem in that he realizes how important states and states' rights are. I think and hope we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:04 PM
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14. The GOP has been blatantly using the Christian Right for 25 years....
and they are finally getting pissed.

Of course the Republicans are embarassed to be "seen with Fundies in
public". The GOP can't survive many more Terri Schaivo debacles.
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pattim Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 12:40 PM
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18. Embarassed?


No, they're not embarassed to be seen with wingnuts one bit. I do agree that they're only being strung along for elections, but that's not embarassment, that's political expediency.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 02:32 PM
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19. There are a few exceptions. But there's a reason why GOP'ers speak in code
Edited on Sun Oct-09-05 02:33 PM by cryingshame
Frist probably thinks he can pull off pandering to the Wingnuts now and going moderate during a General Election.

He can't. Even with a complicit media.
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pattim Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 04:00 PM
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20. I do recall GWB
Speaking at Bob Jones and then going moderate. Worked quite well. 'Compassionate Conservative' is quite a moderate tack to take.

Of course, he ended up being neither, but anyone with a brain could see that.
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