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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:33 AM
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Were Busta's Diebold Cty votes sprinkled around like Gore's in Volusia?
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 12:56 AM by TruthIsAll
They must have stolen it primarily in heavily democratic Alameda!
He only got 32% of the vote in those Diebold machine counties that have a 53% democratic registration.

These are the registrations (in thousands) for the Diebold voter machine counties.

Diebold County Registration (000)
County Dem Rep Ind Green

Alameda 369 130 10 15
Fresno 148 151 6 1
Humboldt 33 22 2 1
Kern 98 124 6 1
Lassen 5 6 1 1
Marin 70 36 2 4
Placer 47 79 3 1
Plumas 4 5 1 0
San Joa 110 110 4 1
SanLuOb 48 61 3 2
SantaBar78 72 4 3
Trinity 3 3 0 0
Tulare 47 61 2 1

Diebold Counties Total Registration -2002
Dem.Rep.Ind.Green
1060 860 44 35
53.03% 43.02% 2.20% 1.75%

State Total Registration - 2002
Dem.Rep.Ind.Green
6825 5388 299 155
44.60% 35.21% 1.96% 1.02%

State total votes 7,842,630.
Votes Cast in Diebold counties: 1,403,375
or 17.89% of the total votes cast.

Schwarzenegger 581,145 3,552,787 16.36%
Bustamante 447,008 2,379,740 18.78% <<<WTF seems very low...
Were Busta's votes sprinkled around like Gore's in Volusia?

McLintock 186,923 979,234 19.08%
Camejo 39,199 207,270 18.9%
Huffington 7,498 42,131 17.79%
Ueberoth 3365 21378 15.74%
Flynt 2384 15010 15.88%
Coleman 1869 12443 15.02%
Simon 1351 7648 17.66%
Palmieri 2542 3717 68.3% <WTF
Louie 598 3198 18.7%
Kunzman 1957 2133 91.75% <<WTF
Roscoe 325 1941 16.7%
Sprague 1026 1576 65.10% <<WTF
Macaluso 592 1504 39.36% <<WTF
Price 477 1011 47.18% <<WTF
Quinn 220 433 50.8% <<WTF
Martorana 165 420 39.28% <<WTF
Gosse 60 419 14.3%

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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:48 AM
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1. Sprinkling, shaving, that's my impression too.
BTW: TruthIsAll, you had a quote way back when that I thought was a hoot -- it appears in Black Box Voting Chapter 7.

Do you have very simple election math for dummies that you might want to contribute for about a half-page activists sidebar -- to help citizens monitor elections and report results?

Bev
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 12:54 AM
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2. Who would vote for this guy?
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:45 AM
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6. Oh Gawd Not Rich Gosse
Maybe all the women he gropped voted for him. I lived in Healdsburg for 10 years and I am familiar with Mr Gosse, just like his hand is familiar with my ass.

The numbers for Alameda county do not add up at all. And why did it take so long for Alameda to report their numbers? This is a freaking ginzu knife folks it is slicing and dicing up the vote.

Wish I was stateside. Oakland is my birth place and I am sick to death of the East Bay getting fucked.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 01:58 AM
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3. Check out Kunzman
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 01:59 AM by chascarrillo
I posted in another thread my dissatisfaction for a similar look at possible tinkering...

... but have a look at Kunzman's numbers in Diebold counties and in non-Diebold counties. Maybe there's some logical reason for this (in a field of 135 candidiates, it may be possible that this is just random chance), but this really looks weird.

Quick link: http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/alpha/00.htm#cty
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:17 AM
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4. Keep this kicked
Hopefully more work is being done by others today in trying to analize this election. I have no doubt that Liebold pulled off some hanky-panky. Only through statistical analysis can we begin to understand how they do it. It may not have changed the ultimate outcome of this election, but we need to know.

:bounce:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:20 AM
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5. Can any vote fraud be PROVEN.....I appreciate all of your comments
in this area and support raising awareness....but how can this be proven...when will it get the light of day?

Where do we go from here?
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:07 AM
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7. Something else
This is not specifically BBV related, but I did something earlier and I thought it was strange also.

There were 8,363,276 votes cast.

There were only 7,978,767 votes yes and no cast regarding the recall of Davis.

384,609 people didn't vote on the recall.

Well, maybe they were stupid and they thought they could just pick a candidate, right?

There were 8,363,276 vote cast

There were 7,701,156 total votes for all of the candidates.

662,220 people did not select a candidate,or possibly, wrote one in.

Maybe they just went to vote on the propositions?

There were 8,363,276 votes cast

There were 7,425,701 votes, both yes and no, on prop 53

937,675 people didn't take a position on this issue.

There were 7,726,476 votes, both yes and no on prop 54

636,904 people didn't take a position on this issue.

The proposition issue was probably not what got people to the polls, so I don't think those may be important, but the fact that hundreds of thousands of people didn't vote on the recall, or select a candidate, makes me wonder what they were doing at the polls?

It also makes me wonder if they were even there? Remember that there were way fewer polling places in this special election and 15% of the entire state's population actually is reported to have gone to the polls. (5,000,000, subtracting the 3,200,000 reported to have voted absentee) it seems that the turnout most places was heavier than usual, but not as huge as you would expect in a 40% increase in participation and at fewer polling places. I don't know if it means anything, I just think it's strange.
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