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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:28 PM
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Bush will veto anti-torture law (Dailykos)
Well worth the read. If he vetoes it, he should be impeached immediately.

<http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/9/22342/2239>
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:30 PM
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1. He's going to veto knowing full well it will be overturned?
This confirms that he is the stupidest man in the face of the earth.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:36 PM
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5. It may not be overturned - just look at the House
DeLay may not be Majority Leader anymore, but if you think his political influence in the House just went *poof* overnight, think again.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:53 PM
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12. It's going to conference committee
which has a lot of power over spending bills. It'll probably come out.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:11 PM
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16. I dunno if House will override...
Edited on Sun Oct-09-05 10:11 PM by longship
...if the Hammer is still in action like he was Friday. This may work against the Hammer, too, if he tries the same kind of shit on the override.

I just think there's no way that this can go good for Chimpster.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:31 PM
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2. Wow! That will add to his legacy!
And impeachment sounds like a wonderful idea!
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:32 PM
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3. We know it'll be overturned in the Senate...what about the House? nt
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:37 PM
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6. Either way, we win!
Dubya, thanks for going out of your way to make sure the whole world knows you are the "torture president." Nice work, dumbass. Some of the religious people in your base actually read their Bibles, and don't like Abu Ghraib one little bit. Many will be joining the opposition.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:34 PM
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4. Pay attention to Helen Thomas at the next press briefing.
Hint, hint.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:37 PM
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7. BUSH WILL VETO THE DEFENSE SPENDING BILL.
Remember, the anti-torture amendment is a part of the entire $440 billion bill!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:52 PM
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11. Yep. Bush finally found a spending bill he couldn't live with.
Not because it is huge. Because it defunds the torture that was already against the law and Bush says shouldn't happen and is against his orders.

What a dick.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:17 PM
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18. On the record, it looks like Bush is ANTI-DEFENSE.
That's relavant. It makes him look weak (which he is) and cannot protect America.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:39 PM
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8. And Bush calls himself a Christian? n/t
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:46 PM
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9. Bush just wheted his appetite as the Texas Executioner.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:47 PM
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10. There isn't enough popcorn on the planet
For all the upcoming entertainment.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:55 PM
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13. Torture is important to the Silverspoon Sociopath.
It is one of the joys in his pathetic life.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:56 PM
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14. The Nazi 9
Don't forget they voted for torture..
Allard (R-CO), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Nay
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:19 PM
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19. And they are all Repukes
What a surprise. :sarcasm:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:56 PM
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15. Oh, no -- if he vetoes it, he will be too valuable to us in 2006.
Especially if Congress doesn't manage to override a veto because too many GOP House members don't vote to override.

Let the GOP lose control of Congress in 2006. Then impeach Bush.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:15 PM
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17. Hes done
If he does, he condones torture and hates the troops .


If he doesnt he admits he ordered torture.
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:24 PM
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21. Why do we have to get this story from the BRITISH media?
Earth to CNN..... MSNBC......:mad: :mad: :mad:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:21 PM
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There's a new thread which should be combined with this one
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:21 PM
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20. Good, I hope they're that stupid to have him veto it
It'll make him look bad and the senate will override him. It's a win win.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:32 PM
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22. Let's see how the media plays it
My bet is that they'll look at it primarily in terms of the political horserace. They'll cast it as Democrats trying to beat him and does he have the political authority to 'stand his ground'.

With little attention paid to the real world, life and death, moral and ethical issue underlying the politics.

Any decent journalistic establishment, long gone in America, would rip him up one side and down the other, without Democrats even having to say a word. Think that'll happen? This veto will put the lie, or actually just another in a series of lies, to the notion that US torture is just a few bad apples in the lower ranks behaving horribly. It was always, and as this veto will show still is, a corruption of American morality initiated and persistingly driven from the top down.

Let's just see how the '4th branch of government' deals with it.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:01 PM
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23. Just emailed my senators,
Hutchinson and Cornyn (flying spaghetti monster dammit, Texas sucks) and politely let them know that if Bush does veto this that I, and all Texans, expect them to uphold their original vote and override the chimpansential veto. Brought up higher moral ground, we are the good guys argument. Probably won't do any good, but you gotta try. Who knows, maybe the Senate is WAKING THE FUCK UP.
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