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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:51 PM
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US WEIGHS MILITARY ACTION AGAINST SYRIA
I can't fucking believe this! We need a revolution in the US, we are living in a fascist state! If the US invades Syria in any way shape or form I don't think my blood pressure will stay at healthy levels.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051009/wl_mideast_afp/ussyriairaqstrikes
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:54 PM
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1. The US is looking for a replacement leader (i.e. stooge) too.
Good luck. And good luck not having him liquidated once he is identified.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:54 PM
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2. And where would these troops come from? Yellow Elephants, maybe?
The Bush administration has got to be stopped before the whole world erupts.

This is just plain sick.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:18 PM
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15. On Karel's show tonight...
he mentioned a story about the selective service board being convened. Is it getting kind of DRAFTY in here or what?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:55 PM
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3. It's a major part of the PNAC agenda. Iraq was meant for a staging area
so we could attack Syria and Iran. This was expected, by me, at least.:(

Warmongering bastards.:grr:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:56 PM
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Warmongers don't go to heaven so how do they splain this....
Duya!
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:07 AM
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28. You ain't the only one
I've got active bets going with friends who drink the koolaid about Iran and Syria. I was thinking I might lose those bets with Fitzgerald's indictments in the works, but maybe the Administration plans to hurry up and start even if they know they won't be able to finish.

If you think about it, they don't need to finish wars/military actions with Iran or Syria in order to line their pockets and further their agenda. They just need to start.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:56 PM
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4. "You have to acknowledge that we are helping."
That's the problem. Syria in fact has helped us. bush and company simply refuse to acknowledge that and continue to promote the myth that Syria is 100 percent in support of terrorism and also supports the insurgency in Iraq.

Sy Hersch had an excellent article in The New Yorker regarding Syria's efforts to aid the U.S. Not that Syria is a goody-two-shoes country by any means, but air strikes are exactly what we don't need right now.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:57 PM
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5. using the same convoluted rhetoric as with Iraq invasion!
"we're running out of patience...."

subtext: "we're reasonable; they're not; we're getting pissed; they better submit."

unwritten/unspoken subtext: "get ready, we're going to invade."

fuck these people. fuck 'em hard.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:59 PM
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6. Hmm
Afghanistan is a time bomb ticking
Iraq going to blow
Now you want Syria

Oh well what can one say but Your President is a nutcase.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:00 PM
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7. Not without a draft ...they won't be doing any invading - what are they
going to do? - nuke a million people for wmd's - we have a renegade administration running the show and must be stopped, somehow, someway, we can't continue to follow an incompetant leader as he points to the ridge leading off the cliff.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:02 PM
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8. I hear that they just invented a flying donkey as well!!
Invade Syria?? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah, me and what army :rofl:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:07 PM
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10. Remember this quote? Lawrence Eagleburger? Let's hope he's right!
Lawrence Eagleburger (BBC interview, via Best of the Blogs)
"...I can only tell you….maybe I’ll be made of fool of when I say this but I can’t even imagine that and I’ve only recently heard somebody else say that this is a possibility. I just don’t think that anybody who says that truly understands the American people. You saw the furor that went on in this country before the President got sufficient support to do this. We’re just not built like that. Whether anybody is prepared to admit it or not, this is still a democracy and public opinion and the public still on these issues rules. If George Bush decided that he was going to turn the troops loose on Syria now, and Iran after that, he would last in office for about 15 minutes. You’re talking to somebody who frankly wishes we could knock Syria around a bit because I think they have been absolutely outrageous for years in terms of their support for terrorism. But, because I happen to believe that, doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. If President Bush were to try it now, even I would feel that he ought be impeached. You can’t get away with that sort of thing with this democracy. It’s ridiculous."

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:11 PM
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11. Now that we've broken in the idea of pre-emptive invasion
it would be easier, not more difficult, to invade Syria.

It wouldn't be a ground invasion anyway. Just drop a few thousand bombs and send another $billion or two to Boeing and Rockwell.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:23 PM
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17. It might be easier, but the American people
WILL NOT support another illegal invasion. They have had it with Iraq. They have watched BILLIONS of their tax dollars go over there and then they watched the response or lack thereof, to Katrina and finally figured it out. We don't have the $$$$ or the troops to take care of our own BECAUSE all of our resources are in Iraq.

Attacking Syria would be the nail in his coffin. He would be a FOOL to do it. Oh yeah, he IS a fool!:scared:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:27 PM
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20. I hope you're right. But
I thought exactly, *exactly* the same thing about Iraq. "He won't do it, that would be crazy..." :crazy:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:28 PM
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21. I hear ya! Little did we know the man is a sociopath!
:(
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:21 PM
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16. Yeah, even a RW hawk like Eagleburger can see the writing on the wall
I'll bet $1000 bucks we won't invade Syria. It's just bluster - I know BS when I hear it...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:26 PM
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19. Unless they have the Draft in the works.
Randi Rhodes said she just received a request in the mail for her to serve on the selective service board. I think a Draft is coming. If so, they will attack Syria. Iraq was just their first step in their plan.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:41 PM
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25. I'll bet $2000 bucks they don't reinstitute the draft!
Talk about political suicide!! These fucks are dumb, but they aren't complete idiots are they?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:50 AM
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26. I'm not so sure, Mr_Spock.
"Complete idiots" happens to be my favorite term for them. ;)

Why else would they be manning the selective service boards? They've been doing that for years. There must be some reason for it? What's the selective service for?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:58 AM
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27. I think law requires them to man the SS boards
It really doesn't mean they will be restarting a draft any tiem soon. Instead they just trick the kids:

Family feels misled by recruiter
Kingston student to be sent to Iraq
By Jenna Russell, Globe Staff | October 10, 2005

KINGSTON -- Brian Shepard thought he had the perfect plan: a special program, offered by a Marine Corps recruiter last spring, that would let him finish four years of college before he faced active duty.

Instead, the 18-year-old was notified last week -- less than one month into his freshman year at New Hampshire Technical Institute -- that his Marine Reserve unit will be sent to Iraq early next year, a development that Shepard said his recruiter never told him was possible.

A Marine spokesman said recruiters make no guarantees to enlistees about their deployment. The enlistment paperwork signed by Shepard stated he would have to leave college if his unit was activated, according to the spokesman.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/10/family_feels_misled_by_recruiter/
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 11:54 AM
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33. You are dead wrong..........
Their bases are stratecically located along the borders of Afghanistan and Iraq. They are there for a purpose. And that purpose is to make it easy to attack Syria and Iran in particular. It will happen, it's just a matter of when.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:04 PM
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9. soon to be police state for sure
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:14 PM
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12. I think this will happen
I think for about a year or so we will conduct economic sanctions and air strikes on Syria just like we did to Iraq in the 90's...weakening their power. As for troops...who said anything about a draft??We have Israel right?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:16 PM
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13. our piggy back is on MT and our military is worn, torn, and rusty.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:16 PM
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14. DRAFT can't be far behind
imagine that?:grr:
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pattim Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:25 PM
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18. We also constantly weigh military action
against Iran, Saudia Arabia, Russia, China, North Korea, Indonesia, and just about every other nation in the world. Because on the off chance we need to, we'd like to have a strategy in place.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:56 AM
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32. And the Iraqi invasion remains on the drawing board
:sarcasm:Ever heard of PNAC? Try google.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:30 PM
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22. PNAC - PNAC - PNAC - PNAC.
Oh and did I say CANADA?

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:34 PM
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23. PNAC---read it and you'll feel like you're following a road map!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Peace
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:36 PM
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24. And one wonders why the dang free press is not reading that map?
Grrrrrrrrr is right.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:18 AM
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29. Oh boy, Killing Fields, here we come!
Which three spare soldiers are we gonna send into Syria?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:21 AM
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30. One Nation, Under PNAC, With Illegal War and Injustice for All.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:34 AM
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31. If there's a Draft, it'll be instituted by Dems.
The Republicans certainly won't do it before the mid-terms, and after the mid-terms they're going to be the minority party in the Congress anyway.

Why would they make such a politically suicidal move when there are plenty of DLC "centrist Democrats" who don't mind undermining their own party one bit? I'm sure they'd just vomit their usual line, and say that opponents to the Draft are unrealistic 'left wing extremists' who should be ignored.
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