Did you know GHWB and BABS have a 4th son? The youngest

son is Marvin. He worked security for the World Trade Center for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Bush

Marvin graduated from Woodberry Forest School in 1975, and spent most summers and holidays at the sprawling family estate, the Bush Compound. He was a director of Securacom a.k.a. Stratesec, a publicly traded company, from 1993 until fiscal year 2000. The Sterling, Virginia company provided electronic security for the World Trade Center and Dulles International Airport on September 11, 2001. The Securacom/Stratesec company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp.

Marvin Bush is also associated with HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. (HCC), through being a former director, as well as being currently listed as an advisor to the board of directors <1>. HCC is a publicly traded insurance company on the NYSE. HCC insured parts of the World Trade Center complex during September 11th, 2001 <2>.

Marvin sat on the boards of both HCC and Securacom/Stratesec at the same time, and both companies had a commercial interest in the World Trade Center complex. This information is required to be disclosed through SEC proxy filings but was not <3> <4>. The proxy for Stratesec also omitted Marvin Bush's directorship at Fresh Del Monte Produce (FDP), a company run by Mohammed Abu-Ghazaleh<5>, who has a business background in several middle eastern countries, including the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait. No SEC investigations into the omission of the required proxy disclosures are publicly known.

controlled security in a building. Wow, cool, huh?

if you wanted to bring in um, ya' know, stuff, and other junk that you like, um, wanted to plant or hide, you like could.

Wow!!!! You could even like grow, um, Marijuana and shit! You could even maybe like, ahh, bring in explosives and shit, but man, who would be f-ed up enough 4 that shit??? No way!!!!

I doubt he has the technical knowledge to operate his own home security system.

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Knowing they would easily get away with it, the Imperial Family cover story isn't even as good as some of the more obvious Mafia cover-stories they've put out over the years.

But it does smell a bit like Damien: The Omen.

washingtonpost.com
Bush Family Babysitter Killed in Fairfax

Sunday, October 5, 2003; Page C03

A babysitter for the family of Marvin Bush was found dead Monday night outside the family's Fairfax County home, and police said that she had been crushed when her car rolled into her, pinning her between the vehicle and an outbuilding on the property.


Fairfax County police said Bertha Champagne, 62, had worked for several years for Marvin Bush, President Bush's brother, and lived at the family home on Fort Hunt Road in the Alexandria section of Fairfax.

Officer Courtney Young, a police spokeswoman, said Champagne had gone outside the house about 9 p.m. Monday, reportedly to retrieve something from her car.

The vehicle had been in gear, police said, and appeared to have rolled in her direction when Champagne was in front of it.

After pinning Champagne, Young said, the car continued rolling toward Fort Hunt Road, near the intersection of Edgehill Drive.

Champagne was taken to an area hospital and declared dead that evening. Young said she did not know the cause of death.

info. Didn't know about that one. It does scream Omen doesn't it.

Of course, I think that we are dealing with EVIL here.

And, there's Bush sister.

Neil is the one who was involved in the Silverado S&L failure in the 1980s, costing the taxpayers a billion or more.

Marvin is a straight-up moron, the acknowledged dunce in the family.



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The * family values and all.

What's up with Dorothy? Is she a drug addict?

Doro being the family nickname for Dorothy. All I've heard about her is she's a professional wife and mom of the privileged classes, and totally does not want to be drawn into electoral politics. She had enough politicking growing up with Babs and Geo Sr.

Doesn't mean anything one way or the other. Beyond that you'd have to read Kitty Kelly's dish.

Hekate

might explain it.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Koch_Industries

Maybe that's another reason that Doro wants to protect her privacy. Bobby Koch worked for Gephardt and Coelho on Capitol Hill and still contributes money to Democratic candidates, including Daschle, Boxer, and Leahy (as well as to his wife's brother, of course).


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screaming at him to "Get out of Dick Cheney's house." Bar said she was so proud of her – that it made Doro feel better about the election results.

(snip)

It’s actually “a pain in the neck” to be the sibling of a sitting president, she says, and tells how her daughter, Doro Koch, picketed outside Vice President Al Gore’s residence “in disguise” during the 2000 recount. “That’s Doro!” Mrs. Bush hoots when telling about it. “She felt better” after yelling at the Gores’ house for a while, Mrs. Bush says.

Here's another revealing snip on Bar's views on eugenics:

…she thinks back to that morning’s visit to the hospital’s neonatal ICU, where she saw premature infants in incubators. “Where do you draw the line” in saving those who would not have survived in another time? “What kind of quality of life? It’s the same thing with old age. Are we doing the right thing?” Then again she says of one severely impaired newborn, “But, they say she’s brought great happiness ...”

more…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3225744/site/newsweek/

Thanks for the info I didn't know.

Geez, if Marvin is the "dunce" of the family, then what the hell is Duh-bya?

Is that even possible?

Wow, that's a mouthful.

He must truly be a drooling idiot.

It is pushing me toward MIHOP from LIHOP.

quite plausible and IMHO true.

And the info about him and the "Patriot Act" is telling too. Jim McDermott on Moore's F911 was interviewed and he said it was like they had this all planned already (the act) and had it stashed away and now was their perfect timing (I think he actually said someone said that). This goes to show it even more.

she's been flying under the radar for years.

GHWB was having lunch with John Hinckley's father at the same time that John Hinckley was shooting at President Reagan.

HHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm!

HE WAS.

couldn't remember where he was when Kennedy was shot.

It's not that I need proof - I TOTALLY believe it, it just fits in with everything else we know about this family. But, I would like to tell someone I know who will not believe it without proof - well, they may not believe it even then, but it's a start...

~snip~
On 11 September, while Al-Qaeda's planes slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Carlyle Group hosted a conference at a Washington hotel. Among the guests of honour was a valued investor: Shafig bin Laden, brother to Osama.
~snip~
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,738196,00.html



Bush Sr. had been a senior adviser to Carlyle's Asia Advisory Board from 1999 until 2003.

He was apart of Harken and then Carlyle. Don't forget Bush's friend Bath and BCCI. There are connections all over the place.

but canceled after the "incident". Neil and John Hinckley (the shooter) BOTH lived in Lubbock, Texas at the same time when Neil was campaigning for W's unsuccessful (they hadn't worked out the kinks in election fraud yet) congress bid. So, I'll bet W would have been in Lubbock too, then, but he denies knowing Hinckley

georgie had his miraculous conversion soon after KKKarl Rove started "handling" him. The fundie vote was central in getting georgie elected. He's been pulling the wool over their eyes ever since.

is real or fake

I as a Christian can tell you that Bush doesn't believe. I'm sure other Christians here on the board could as well. If Bush really followed the Bible and the teachings of Jesus he wouldn't be there in the first place. He would've been an honest person and not had those fake riots and he would've stopped Bolton and the group from stopping the counting on his behalf. If you haven't try to watch the documentary's "With God On Our Side" and "God in the White House." In one of them it shows how Rove saw the effects of Bush's little Jesus story and he started using that. If Bush really was a believer in Jesus he wouldn't be so shy about it. When do you ever hear him talk about or quote Jesus?
It's all an act. Same thing with him being dumb.

He called in a "suspect" for that case. I mean, how connected are these people? I used to think GHWB was a wimp, at best. This man is dangerous. Michael Moore's movie mentioned that he's the only former president to continue to take CIA briefings.

the Gov for decades.

Prescott's father. And Prescott was a Nazi.

I think Poppy is the one behind everything with PNAC. Jeb is on there even. Remember when Poppy said Jeb would make an excellent president? Bingo! With the CIA briefings former presidents do have authority to do so but only Poppy Bush takes the offer. That really showed me he was really involved in everything. Don't forget him and BinLaden's brother sitting together watching the attacks.

That's right. And remember the Reagan's and Bush's hated each other.

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One thing I found interesting was that the nanny-rollover incident took place 12 days before the WP reported it (a small blurb buried in the Metro Section); no other paper wrote of it. Another testimonial to how the Bush clan controls the press. Somewhat reminiscent of the 'teenage prostitutes found in WH raid' story which ran in the late '80's, but was never followed up.

the driveway? VERY, VERY suspicious incident.

OMG, it was nasty.

Neil got busted for going to Thailand and having sex with teen prostitutes, AND for giving his wife herpes. It was all over Houston the past year.



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A good American family. What a joke.

His ex-wife wanted to stick with him. But he found a younger model, working in his mom's "charity" & already married--he filed for the divorce. Texas is a community property state but Neil claimed to be broke. His ex was going to get child support & not much else. She planned to "tell all" & told quite a bit. But Neil sweetened the offer & she didn't tell everything she knew. A few divorce details here--more on Neil's Silverado affair:

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/26/politics/main596033.shtml

The timing of the New Mrs Bush's baby (while all the parties were still in their original marriages) was a bit suspicious. But apparently the DNA tests showed him to be the kid of the New Mrs Bush's ex.

The President & First Lady couldn't manage time for Neilsie & Maria's wedding. Neither could Neilsie's daughter, Lauren. The happy couple moved into the house Maria had gotten out of her divorce. Now they're building one in the same gated community that houses his parents.

I see you know your Houston dirt, politics, and geography.

You know, Daddy Bush has an office at 10,000 Memorial, which is around the corner from where they live. I doubt he's ever at the office, however. They've lived in that area for decades. They used to have a place over near where the Lietkes have their place.


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I remember reading how George and Laura used to live in a gated community too. Did they all live in the same neighborhood? Then before the "election" in 2000 they bought the pigfarm they have now for photo-ops and whatnot.

I knew he divorced his wife but not about the teen prostitute's. Oh yes. Real good "Christian" family. Ugh! I wish their followers would learn the truth about these asses. Ugh! Don't forget also that before George met Laura (which I still wonder about myself) he had a girlfriend (who was a black girl) and he got her pregnant and Poppy Bush arranged for her to have an abortion (she didn't want it but they couldn't ruin Bush's image eh?) and she had an illegal abortion. After Bush "won" in 2000 she started talking and was mysteriously found dead in her home.

for a time. Have you read the articles about him on Bushwatch.org? He's curious. I used to think he was the most nefarious of the bunch. Now, I think differently. Like Jon Stewart says of them all, "not evil, just accustomed." Kitty Kelly's last book had some stories about Marvin that make it difficult for me to believe he's The Evilest Bush. Doesn't seem like he's smart enough for true evil. Not like Jeb, who still scares the ever-living whatever out of me.

or whatever to produce this group.

Smart enough to fool people. Bush is just a bumbling greedy fool. I think Jeb is a bit more dangerous personally. Hopefully he'll never be able to run.

He graduated from Woodberry Forest School, which is a high school, and has no college degree (nor any time spent in college at all) listed in that biography. So he's risen to a position of power and wealth with a high school education on what looks like lackluster performance. Once again, nepotism and cronyism win the day!

That's an important part of any BushCo employees' resume.

Graduated from the University of Virginia in 79. That doesn't mean he hasn't benefitted from his family connections in his career. Of course he has.

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who died as a child of leukemia. I was shocked when I heard that they had so many children.

the Lucy/Desi Arnez child that was institutionalized.. Ricky Retardo..

rim shot :)

After WW2 we had a thing called the GI bill where if you were smart enough you could go to college and I think it is one of the reason this country grew so fast after WW2 . One of the reasons. Now India and China are doing that. When you get to the top on a name and it is the plan of the country they usually do not last long.Our country was set up to try and not have birth a right to rule.It has sort of worked but now I hear people say. He is our President so must be right. Very bad form for an AM. We were always to question our govt. and the best were to get to the top, not the ones with the right name.

I started out this morning on the PBS Frontline series on John O'Neill, and began Googling and hyperlinking. Without going into detail, I ended up (for now) at the VOX NYC site.


“You have to look at the entire Bush Family in this context—as if the entire family ran a corporation called ‘Frauds-R-Us.’ Each member of the family, George Sr., George Jr., Neil, Jeb, Prescott, Wally, etc., have their own specialty of fraud.

“George Jr.’s specialty was insurance and security fraud. Jeb’s specialty was oil and gas fraud. Neil’s specialty was real estate fraud. Prescott’s specialty was banking fraud. Wally’s specialty was securities fraud. And George Bush Sr’s specialty? All of the above.”<131>

But Iraq wasn’t the only “enemy” doing business with the Bush family. George Bush’s brother Prescott was a consultant to Asset Management International Financing & Settlement, a New York firm with a contract to provide communications for 2,000 professional and university offices in China. After the Tienaman Square massacre of pro-democracy demonstrators in June of 1989, Bush publicly expressed his outrage, while quietly sending National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft to China to make sure the Bush family assets were secure. Asset Management likewise enlisted Prescott’s help after his father imposed economic sanctions against China (which he would later lift for Hughes Aircraft). For this Prescott received a handsome $250,000 consulting fee from Asset Management.<132>

Prescott would go on to broker a deal between Asset Management and West Tsusho, a Tokyo-based investment firm linked to the Japansese mob—the Yakuza, for which he received a $250,000 finder’s fee and a $250,000 yearly “consultant” retainer. Unfortunately West Tsusho filed a $2.5 million lawsuit against Prescott claiming that he reneged on his promise to protect the firm’s $5 million investment.<133>

Like his brother George, Prescott would play his own role in illegal covert activities, as a spy for the Reagan/Bush presidential campaign against President Jimmy Carter. A September 3, 1980 letter from Prescott to James Baker (soon to become Secretary of State) offers his help in monitoring the activities of the Carter White House in their efforts to obtain the release of the American hostages being held in Iran. As the letter states:

http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_world_class_criminal.html


There are some incredible and shocking charges made by this site (understatement). But, there are some credible citations as well, from the MSM and alternative new sources.

I recall that his company's contract with the WTC on September 11th, 2001. I have to look for that.

Here's an interesting article.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

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Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000. But the White House has not publicly disclosed Bush connections in any of its responses to 9/11, nor has it mentioned that another Bush-linked business had done security work for the facilities attacked.

Marvin Bush joined Securacom when it was capitalized by the Kuwait-American Corporation, a private investment firm in D.C. that was the security company's major investor, sometimes holding a controlling interest. Marvin Bush has not responded to telephone calls and e-mails for comment.

KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

After years of living with chronic colitis, he underwent a colostomy.

achieved enough destructions yet?

Was that BEFORE or AFTER the bombing? I'd love to know.

He was a director of Securacom a.k.a. Stratesec, a publicly traded company, from 1993 until fiscal year 2000. The Sterling, Virginia company provided electronic security for the World Trade Center and Dulles International Airport on September 11, 2001. The Securacom/Stratesec company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp.

The company publicly traded in 1993-2000? I wonder if his company was involved with security in 1993 when the first bombing happened? Hmmmm.

VERY INTERESTING!

If nothing else, we can chalk it up to one more thing they got wrong.

George Bush: Wrong on 9/11, Wrong on Iraq, Wrong on th environment, on education, on Medicare, on Katrina. GEORGE BUSH: JUST PLAIN Wrong.

"W" is for "Wrong".

and people wondered why W had Brownie around. They needed him to attend to the BFEE's horses.

The fourth horseman (on the pale, or sickly horse, which may be the source of the notion of "pestilence" as a separate horseman) is explicitly named Death. The pale greenish color of the fourth horse means fear, sickness, decay, and death. The imagery of the horses and riders is similar to a passage in Zechariah. source: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."
Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

More info here:

http://216.177.7.126/911security.html

But I wasn't aware of any others than George and Jeb. Just didn't care.

It's getting late.

Bribes, Lies and Orange Juice
Wed, 15 Oct 2003


By Simon Saunders
The Bush brothers' secret citrus deals.
Not a lot of people realise that Jeb Bush made a big contribution to the Cancun World Trade talks last month. Taking time out of his busy schedule to fly to Washington, on September 10th he took it upon himself to fight the oppressive regimes dominating the talks, and defend his country against those destructive G21 representatives. He’s taken little credit for it, but the world should know.

Jeb has saved the south coast

With his own inimitable brand of big name backers and bully-boy tactics, the ‘other’ Bush was one of the little voices in Cancun chairman Ernesto Derbez’s head telling him to stick to his guns over agricultural tariff reform. G21 didn’t stand a chance against Jeb’s altruistic arguments, which were laid before an appreciative audience of journalists in the capitol. His main point of order was the damage that could be done to orange growers in southern Florida if Brazil, with its starving and therefore cheap excess of workers, was allowed to sell to the US without trade barriers. He said:

“If the Brazilians were operating on a level playing field, I would not feel as comfortable advocating this position of being very cautious about lowering tariffs.”I’m confident that we can be an advocate for free trade and still recognise that there’s some unique circumstances as it relates to American agriculture.”

Under the World Trade Organization, America’s current tariff adds nearly 30 cents to the price of every gallon of orange juice imported today, helping to protect Florida’s $9.1 billion citrus industry from the normal rules of globalisation.

From Guerrilla News Network
http://gnn.tv/articles/386/Bribes_Lies_and_Orange_Juice

I thought Neil Bush worked there too until 9/11/01?

anyone mention her in the house after that, and they apparently golfed the next day

It's in the archives somewhere, under my nic, probably in the politics forum. Sure Marvin was in the photo.