OMG. Did you know that the RW is actually led by a few Families?

Here are some of the Dynasties that make up the Far Right and some notable members in each Family.

- Buckley Family
William Buckley
James Buckley
Brent Bozell

- Bush Family
George HW Bush
Barbara Bush
Jeb Bush
Marvin Bush
Junior

- Coors Family
Adolph Coors
Joseph Coors
Holland Coors
Jeff Coors
Pete Coors

- Kristol Family
Irving Kristol
William Kristol

I think this may be big, so let's research this. Are there other Dynasties that form the Far Right?

Maybe someone else can

"Vast Right-wing Conspiracy" - H. Clinton
"Military-Industrial Complex" - D. Eisenhower
"Power Elite" - C. Wright Mills
"Bilderberg Group" - ???
"Plutocrats" - FDR
"Capitalists" - K. Marx
"Aristocrats" - T. Jefferson
"My base" - W

...but that extends to the pseudo-left wing as well, I suppose.

n/t

Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.

gets even scarier the further you zoom out and look at the big picture. Howa many of Bush's appointees have bee from the PNAC crowd?

And the Ronnie Earle quote.

what a sweet picture! :loveya:

It seems odd to speak of the Bushes as a dynasty.

Especially when the family that is mentioned is influential.

It seems to be how it's viewed, and usage will ultimately prevail over the dictionary. Though I think the only people who will view the Bushes as a dynsaty will be the neocons.

dy·nas·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dn-st)
n. pl. dy·nas·ties
A succession of rulers from the same family or line.
A family or group that maintains power for several generations: a political dynasty controlling the state.


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dy·nastic (d-nstk) adj.
dy·nasti·cal·ly adv.


Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


dynasty

n : a sequence of powerful leaders in the same family


Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

It's you who don't appear to have been paying attention, for all your erudite pedantry. Bush I was the first family head of state. The last election was illegitimate, so the standing of Bush II as head of state is questionable to say the least.

Jeb is what? A state governor? So is Arnie. Maybe Dolph Lundgren is in the wings. The less said about Prescott Bush and Bush I and the CIA, the better. Let's just say, the tradition and aura of a quasi-royal public service would not be widely appreciated, outside the ranks of neocons and perhaps other Republicans. The Bush professional background is too heterogeneous to even give a sense of dynasty.

The memory of John Kennedy is still revered world-wide; and the manner of his death, viewed with the utmost suspicion and loathing.
Nevertheless, the Kennedys barely make it on the basis of the two successive Presidents, a father enjoying Brahmin status as an ambassador - to the UK, when it counted for a little more, maybe; a brother and younger Kennedys, I believe, in public life, looked up to by many Americans virtually as royalty, nevertheless amplify the sense of a dynasty devoted to the service of the nation - the youngsters, without even holding high office.

Would the Roosevelts be considered a dynasty, even on the basis of two legitimately-elected Presidents, and a similar quasi-royal aura?
Although the Roosevelt name is the more prestigious, I suspect the Gore family can probably lay more justifiable claim to belonging to a dynasty of American Brahmin families.

And the Coors, perhaps, in industry. Though I know little about them, and wish I knew even less. I dare say there have been at least 3 generations of Coors CEOs, includng the founder. Perhaps more.

"If they're appearing in public, they're managers, not owners."

- Junkdrawer

the people we see are not the real manipulators. They are only fronts for those who are really calling the shots.

and the stupid ones go into politics".

He was referring to wealthy families of vast priviledge (such as his own).

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Oh bugger it...Oscar Wilde said "I can resist everyting except temptation".

This fits with the view forwarded by some, including some wackos I accept, that relatively few people dicate the agenda for their own personal gain. This isn't the time, or the place, to say much about what I think is the real deal. After four years of research, however, I tend to lean more and more towards the hypothesis of manipulation. Ask yourself why the MSM reports little of REAL importance, for example.

As for research material start looking at the banking system and follow the leads from there. And no, I don't think Bush et al are really aliens who have a dastardly plan for world domination...I don't believe in the alien bit.

"Dynasties" is the appropriate term because that is what the real deal is.

I am researching this as much as I can and I'll see what I can come up with.

Thanks for the link BTW.

But I'd wager that 90% of the wealth and power is concentrated in just a score of families. And, of course, those families are interlocked by both marriage and professional interests.

What we have is an oligarchy.

:)

Don't forget to mention the Walker and Ellis families. All the big players in the BFEE's middle names or first names are all family names like Marvin Bush is named for Babs' grandmother Mabel Marvin.

Koch, Mellon, Scaife. Google one of those names!

Where does all the money comes from? A bunch of it from these guys...

On edit: I wanted to provide a little !

this is what we REALLY need to suss if we are to get a handle on what is going on. DU'ers should read "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" by Anthony Sutton then post a critique of his hypotheses.

There's no way they have that much power!

pete coors ran for the senate seat vacated by ben nighthorse campbell, successfully taken by democrat ken salazar. the coors influence in the state of colorado is vast.

I still had no idea they had as much power as the Bushistas.

1970's, all of them right wing. Coors money is behind most of the conservative media institutions we're forced to deal with these days.

That's all right, I usually dont waste my money on their "beer" anyways.

the politicians for decades. Now they've recently begun to move openly into the political spotlight themselves.

family tree, but couldn't get anywhere with it.
It was almost like the info was scrubbed. :tinfoilhat:

on edit: the going theory was that some of these families had intermarried, but weren't advertising the fact.

I'm thinking more of what family the daughters and granddaughters married into. There's still a bit not tied down.

know about the grandchildren.

are LaBlondes.

(I'm from Pittsburgh PA)

Scranton Family

Scranton family?

was a Congressman and Governor between Dave Lawrence and Milt Shapp. Bill's son was Lieutenant Governor.

Bill Scranton's mom was a Worthington (old money). The Scranton family were old railroad, coal, and financial services money.

Here's an interesting article that includes mention of them and others:

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Republican-Propaganda1sep04.htm

Tentacles of Rage
The Republican propaganda mill, a brief history

~snip~

The venture capital for the task at hand was provided by a small sewing circle of rich philanthropists—Richard Mellon Scaife in Pittsburgh, Lynde and Harry Bradley in Milwaukee, John Olin in New York City, the Smith Richardson family in North Carolina, Joseph Coors in Denver, David and Charles Koch in Wichita—who entertained visions of an America restored to the safety of its mythological past—small towns like those seen in prints by Currier and Ives, cheerful factory workers whistling while they worked, politicians as wise as Abraham Lincoln and as brave as Teddy Roosevelt, benevolent millionaires presenting Christmas turkeys to deserving elevator operators, the sins of the flesh deported to Mexico or France. Suspicious of any fact that they hadn't known before the age of six, the wealthy saviors of the Republic also possessed large reserves of paranoia, and if the world was going rapidly to rot (as any fool could plainly see) the fault was to be found in everything and anything tainted with a stamp of liberal origin—the news media and the universities, income taxes, Warren Beatty, transfer payments to the undeserving poor, restraints of trade, Jane Fonda, low interest rates, civil liberties for unappreciative minorities, movies made in Poland, public schools.*

*The various philanthropic foundations under the control of the six families possess assets estimated in 2001 at $1.7 billion. Harry Bradley was an early and enthusiastic member of the John Birch Society; Koch Industries in the winter of 2000 agreed to pay $30 million (the largest civil fine ever imposed on a private American company under any federal environmental law) to settle claims related to 300 oil spills from its pipelines in six states.

Although small in comparison with the sums distributed by the Ford and Rockefeller foundations, the money was ideologically sound, and it was put to work leveraging additional contributions (from corporations as well as from other like-minded foundations), acquiring radio stations, newspapers, and journals of opinion, bankrolling intellectual sweatshops for the making of political and socioeconomic theory. Joseph Coors established The Heritage Foundation with an initial gift of $250,000 in 1973, the sum augmented over the next few years with $900,000 from Richard Scaife; the American Enterprise Institute was revived and fortified in the late seventies with $6 million from the Howard Pew Freedom Trust; the Cato Institute was set up by the Koch family in 1977 with a gift of $500,000. If in 1971 the friends of American free enterprise could turn for comfort to no more than seven not very competent sources of inspiration, by the end of the decade they could look to eight additional installations committed to "joint effort" and "united action." The senior officers of the Fortune 500 companies meanwhile organized the Business Roundtable, providing it by 1979 with a rich endowment for the hiring of resident scholars loyal in their opposition to the tax and antitrust laws.

The quickening construction of Santa's work-shops outside the walls of government and the academy resulted in the increased production of pamphlets, histories, monographs, and background briefings intended to bring about the ruin of the liberal idea in all of its institutionalized forms—the demonization of the liberal press, the disparagement of liberal sentiment, the destruction of liberal education—and by the time Ronald Reagan arrived in triumph at the White House in 1980 the assembly lines were operating at full capacity. Well in advance of inauguration day the Christmas elves had churned out so much paper that had they been told to do so, they could have shredded it into tickertape and welcomed the new cowboy-hatted herald of enlightened selfishness with a parade like none other ever before seen by man or beast. Unshredded, the paper was the stuff of dreams from which was made Mandate for Leadership, the "bible" presented by The Heritage Foundation to Mr. Reagan in the first days of his presidency with the thought that he might want to follow its architectural design for an America free at last from "the tyranny of the Left," rescued from the dungeons of "liberal fascism," once again a theme park built by nonunion labor along the lines of Walt Disney's gardens of synthetic Eden.

~snip~

I clicked on the article you posted, read the whole thing and then got lost for about three hours surfing the site itself. I don't think I've ever seen so much relevant information about the world and its power players in one place before. I have bookmarked that site and plan to return to it often.

The mind boggles. :crazy:

Roosevelt's family isn't that influential these days, and Rockefeller could hardly by any stretch of the imagination, be considered as liberal as Adolf Coors or Richard Scaife were conservative.

I know the point you're trying to make, but I think the OP has a valid point, too.

I did it wrong. :hi:

bathtub had to be made for him so he could bathe.

They built a special shower for him so he would come and visit again. :)

chase it, the Expose, by Wayne Madson will blow yer mind!

Look up the role of Sun Myung Moon in building up the right wing sometimes. It'll make your hair curl.

For a good survey of America’s RW families, their foundations and think tanks, you might want to look at:

The Republican Noise Machine : Right-wing Media and How It Corrupts Democracy by David Brock of Media Matters, Crown Publisher, 2004

The first few chapters trace the influence of the Mellons, Scaifes and Kristols.

- Buckley Family
William Buckley
James Buckley
Brent Bozell

- Bush Family
George HW Bush
Barbara Bush
Jeb Bush
Marvin Bush
Junior

- Coors Family
Adolph Coors
Joseph Coors
Holland Coors
Jeff Coors

- DeVos Family
Richard DeVos
Dick DeVos
Nancy DeVos
Betsy DeVos
Maria DeVos

- Kagan Family
Donald Kagan
Frederick Kagan
Robert Kagan

- Koch Family
Fred Koch
Charles Koch
David Koch

- Kristol Family
Irving Kristol
William Kristol
Gertrude Himmelfarb

- Mellon-Scaife Family
Andrew Mellon
Richard Mellon
Sarah Mellon
Richard Mellon-Scaife

- Moon Family
Sun Myung Moon
Hak Ja Han
Moon Sung-jin

- Podhoretz Family
Norman Podhoretz
Midge Decter
John Podhoretz

- Rushdoony Family
RJ Rushdoony
Gary North

It was their financing of Britain's war chest that enabled us to beat Napoleon - although, of course, much else was required.

During the occupation of France, the mansion in Paris of the Rothschild family there, was used by the SS as their HQ.

Malcolm Muggeridge, who was working as an intelligence officer at the time, had occasion to visit it after the German's defeat in France, and was puzzled by the pristine condition it appeared to be in. It looked as if nothing had been moved or distured.

So he asked the SS officer in charge about it. "Well", he replied, "I realised that Hitlers come and go, but Rothschilds stay for ever....". Words to that effect.

You've got to laugh at "how wise the children of this world are, after their own fashion". The mark of the really worldly shrewdies is that ability to think in terms of first principles (though evidently seldom the ultimate ones, the spiritual first principles).

When old Blackjack Kennedy was asked why it was he had been busily selling all his stock, at the very time when everyone else seemd to be buying, just before the Wall Street Crash. He replied simply, "When my 'shoe-shine boy' tells me what stocks to buy, I know there's something wrong with the market". "Horses for courses". Though I dare say that now he's wishing he'd taken some tips from that 'shoe-shine boy' on pursuing spiritual priorities.