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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:51 AM
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The Families that control the Far Right (Thread 2)
Yesterday, I was researching the Families that make up and lead the Far Right.

Thread 1

Here is the advanced list with several more families.

- Buckley Family
William Buckley
James Buckley
Brent Bozell

- Bush Family
George HW Bush
Barbara Bush
Jeb Bush
Marvin Bush
Junior

- Coors Family
Adolph Coors
Joseph Coors
Holland Coors
Jeff Coors

- DeVos Family
Richard DeVos
Dick DeVos
Nancy DeVos
Betsy DeVos
Maria DeVos

- Kagan Family
Donald Kagan
Frederick Kagan
Robert Kagan

- Koch Family
Fred Koch
Charles Koch
David Koch

- Kristol Family
Irving Kristol
William Kristol
Gertrude Himmelfarb

- Mellon-Scaife Family
Andrew Mellon
Richard Mellon
Sarah Mellon
Richard Mellon-Scaife

- Moon Family
Sun Myung Moon
Hak Ja Han
Moon Sung-jin

- Podhoretz Family
Norman Podhoretz
Midge Decter
John Podhoretz

- Rushdoony Family
RJ Rushdoony
Gary North

It is possible to break this down even further and we will see something that can be
beneficial to us.

There are two groups of Families that control the Far Right. Neo-Conservatives and
Victorians.

Neo-Cons:
Kagan Family
Kristol Family
Podhoretz Family

The Neo-Cons want to abolish most or all social programs. They think that anything can
be achieved by the use of force.

Victorians:
Buckley Family
Coors Family
DeVos Family
Rushdoony Family

The Victorians are quite Reactionary. They are the force behind the 'christian' Right and
the modern 'conservative' Movement.

Each of these Family Types have a meeting place and where they can order their subordinates
around.

The Neo-Cons have PNAC.

The Victorians have the Council for National Policy.

Some Families also don't fit in either category such as the Moon Family and the Koch Family.

There is a very shaky alliance between the Families. And, there is already lots of friction between them.
Enforcers of the Victorians, such as Paul Weyrich, have said that Neo-Cons are becoming
a threat and that they must be dealt with.

Bob Novak said before the Election that if Bush loses, he said that the Right would fall apart.

I think the glue that holds the Far Right together is the Bush Family.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:53 AM
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1. Coors, DeVos, Koch and Weyrich are Nazis, not Victorians.
,
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:55 AM
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2. can you break it down to what companies they own?
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 10:55 AM by bushmeat
That would be great to know! :D
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:58 AM
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3. Certainly
Coors - Coors Brewery

DeVos - AmWay, Quixtar, etc.

Koch - Koch Industries

Some of these families also have their wealth based on inheritance too.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:00 AM
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4. Go to http://www.theyrule.net/
It should help finding connections between these families

http://www.theyrule.net/

Example:

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:06 AM
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5. I never drank Coca Cola!
the only thing we do is use Home Depot - is Lowes in it too?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:16 AM
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8. That was just an example - the site has links for dozens of corporations
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 11:17 AM by ReadTomPaine
And it's interactive, so you can click on people and see new links, or groups of links. It's a great research tool to see who is connected to what.

Here's another with Halliburton, Citigroup, Alcoa, AT&T and others:

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:18 AM
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9. Cool website thanks....
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:10 AM
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6. Here's a great website for that kind of research.......
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 11:11 AM by Joanne98
Allegheny Foundation
Please see the Scaife Foundations page for more information on the Allegheny Foundation and Richard Mellon Scaife.

Armstrong Foundation
Barre Seid Foundation
Bill and Berniece Grewcock Foundation
Castle Rock Foundation
In 1975, the Adolph Coors Foundation was created as a private family foundation and initially was supported financially by the Adolph Coors Jr. Trust. In 1993, the Castle Rock Foundation was created from the unrestricted funds, receiving a $36,596,253 endowment. Now, the Adolph Coors Foundation focuses almost exclusively on projects and organizations within Colorado, while the Castle Rock Foundation provides grants to public policy and other organizations nationwide.

Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation
David and Charles Koch, sons of the ultraconservative founder of Koch Industries, Fred Koch, direct the three Koch family foundations: the Charles G. Koch Foundation, the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation, and the Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation. David and Charles control Koch Industries, the second-largest privately owned company and the largest privately owned energy company in the nation; they have a combined net worth of approximately $4 billion, placing them among the top 50 wealthiest individuals in the country and among the top 100 wealthiest individuals in the world in 2003, according to Forbes.

Following in the footsteps of their father, a member of the John Birch Society, the Kochs clearly have a conservative bent. Charles Koch founded the Cato Institute, and David Koch co-founded Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) , where he serves as chairman of the board of directors. David also serves on the board of the Cato Institute. The Koch foundations make substantial annual contributions to these organizations (more than $12 million to each between 1985 and 2002) as well as to other influential conservative think tanks, advocacy groups, media organizations, academic institutes and legal organizations, thus participating in every level of the policy process.

Charlotte and Walter Kohler Charitable Trust
Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation
For information on the Claude Lambe Charitable Foundation, along with the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation and the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation see the Koch Foundations page

David H. Koch Charitable Foundation
For information on the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation, along with the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation and the Claude Lambe Charitable Foundation see the Koch Foundations Page

Earhart Foundation
F.M. Kirby Foundation
Gilder Foundation
Gordon and Mary Cain Foundation
Hickory Foundation
Jaquelin Hume Foundation
JM Foundation
John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.


The New York-based John M. Olin Foundation, which grew out of a family manufacturing business (chemical and munitions), funds right-wing think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute for Public Policy Research, and the Hoover Institute of War, Revolution and Peace. It also gives large sums of money to promote conservative programs in the country's most prestigious colleges and universities. After Michael Joyce left to take charge of the Bradley Foundation, William Simon continued as president at Olin...(Editor's note: William Simon passed away in 2000).

John Templeton Foundation
Orville D. and Ruth A. Merillat Foundation
Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.
Randolph Foundation
Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation
The Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation, incorporated in 1970, ranked ninth in total assets ($97,049,407) among the top 20 conservative foundations studied and third in total grants ($26,574,754) in 2001. The foundation's grantmaking has grown dramatically in the past decade, from only $4 million in 1990 to more than $25 million in 2001. The foundation is the oldest and wealthiest of the DeVos family foundations, which also include the Dick and Betsy DeVos Foundation (1990), the Daniel and Pamela DeVos Foundation (1992), and the Douglas and Maria DeVos Foundation (1992). Richard DeVos is co-founder of Amway Corporation and owner of the Orlando Magic (2004), and served as the finance chairman of the Republican National Committee.

Rodney Fund
Roe Foundation
Ruth and Lovett Peters Foundation
Samuel Roberts Noble Foundation
Sarah Scaife Foundation
Financed by the Mellon industrial, oil and banking fortune. At one time its largest single holding was stock in the Gulf Oil Corporation. Became active in funding conservative causes in 1973, when Richard Mellon Scaife became chairman of the foundation. In the 1960s, Richard had inherited an estimated $200 million from his mother, Sarah. Forbes magazine has estimated his personal net worth at $800 million, making him the 138th richest person in the U.S. He controls the Scaife, Carthage and Allegheny foundations. In 1993, Scaife and Carthage reportedly gave more than $17.6 million to 150 conservative think tanks. As of December 31, 1992, Scaife assets were $212,232,888 and Carthage assets were $11,937,862.

Scaife Family Foundation
Please see the Scaife Foundations page for more information on the Allegheny Foundation and Richard Mellon Scaife.

Note: The Scaife Family Foundation seems to have broken off from Richard Mellon Scaife's control. It moved to Palm Beach, and is no longer listed at the Scaife Foundations' website.

Shelby Cullom Davis Foundation
Smith Richardson Foundation
Financed by the Vicks Vaporub fortune, this foundation is estimated to have assets of about $250 million. Became active in supporting conservative caues in 1973 when R. Randolph Richardson became president. Funded the early "supply-side" books of Jude Wanniski and George Gilder. The Richardsons are estimated by Forbes to have a net worth of $870 million, making them one of the country's richest families.

The Carthage Foundation
Please see the Scaife Foundations page for more information on the Allegheny Foundation and Richard Mellon Scaife.

The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.
With over $700 million in assets (down to $489 million in 2002), the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee, Wisconsin is the country's largest and most influential right-wing foundation. As of the end of 1998, it was giving away more than $30 million a year .

W.H. Brady Foundation
Walton Family Foundation
William E. Simon Foundation
Also see MT's William E. Simon profile.

William H. Donner Foundation
http://www.mediatransparency.com/funders.php
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:13 AM
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7. Their influence has wained the past 10-15 years
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 11:14 AM by Monkey see Monkey Do
but the list wouldn't be complete without the DuPonts. From their involvement in the planned coup d'etat against FDR, their business with Hitler and more recently the pre-Gingrich GOPUSA & Pete's 1988 run for Republican nominee they've been an important part of the right-wing clan IMHO.

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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:18 AM
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10. Pierre DuPont is a member of the CNP
So, it makes sense.
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:39 AM
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12. Of course, the Dulles'.
Got to have them and their cousin Ruth Paine for roots to tie to Prescott *
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:21 AM
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11. this is interesting ck4829
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 11:24 AM by McKenzie
and it could be a mighty useful exercise that's worth pursuing. What will be interesting is sussing out whether or not the ties that seem to exist are blood ties, financial ties, or a bit of both.

The Bush family have certainly been big financial players for decades. Their financial interests stretch back to at least the run up to WW2. For example, there is a book called "The Immaculate Deception: The Bush Crime Family Exposed" by Russell S Bowen (ISBN 0-922356-80-7). It is scholarly and a real eye opener. It can be found online in .pdf format. "The Immaculate Deception" in the "exact phrase" field and "pdf" in the "all words" field of Google's advanced search page will get it.

Good research...thanks.

<edit> good link I just found http://www.netctr.com/books.html
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:50 PM
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13. i'll play....
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 11:54 PM by stillcool47
i've been looking at the Koch family. The best site so far on their many contributions to right-wing think tanks and other nefarious connections is:
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html

Koch Industries is nation's largest privately held energy company, with annual revenues of more than $25 billion. ... Koch Industries is now the second largest family-owned business in the U.S., with annual sales of over $20 billion
Papa founded the John Birch Society, and sons David and Charles followed suit w/
Americans for Prosperity
Cato Institute
Citizens for a Sound Economy
Institute for Humane Studies,
Alexis de Tocqueville Institution,
Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment.
Institute for Justice,
Reason Foundation.
Dorothy(Doro)Bush Koch married Robert(Bobby)Koch in 1992 at Camp David
They have four children, two from Doro's first marriage to William LeBlond
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Koch
http://www.publicintegrity.org/oil/report.aspx?aid...
The largest recipient of the Koch's policy influence grants is George Mason University, which has received more than $23 million from the family's foundations between 1985 and 2002, according to the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy.
a small aside;
Charles Koch found himself under investigation by the U.S. Senate for his alleged role in funding so-called "issue ads" that helped conservative Republican congressional candidates in 1996.
There is a slew of law-suits the Koch family businesses have been involved in mostly environmental in nature. This was a neat little tid-bit:
John G. Roberts Jr. argues the cause for petitioner Koch Pipeline Co
http://www.ll.georgetown.edu/Federal/judicial/dc/o...
Thats our supreme court justice...small world.
Some unpleasant side-effects of the Koch family business include;
1.MINNEAPOLIS - Koch Petroleum Group LP was fined $6 million at a formal sentencing after pleading guilty to violating the Oil Pollution Act and the Clean Water Act by negligently discharging oil and wastewater at its Rosemount refinery.
2.US District Judge Ann Montgomery handed Koch, a subsidiary of Koch Industries Inc. in Wichita, KS, the largest federal environmental fine in Minnesota history, according to The Associated Press. The judge also ordered the company to pay $2 million to the Dakota County Park System as restitution for the pollution, which occurred from 1992 to 1997.
3.The U.S. Department of Justice charged Koch Industries with 97 counts of defying federal hazardous waste and clean air-acts when it knowingly emitted benzene fumes and then lied about its actions when questioned. In 2001, Koch Industries agreed to a $20 million settlement, a drastically smaller sum than it would have paid if convicted
4.$30 Million Settlement Approved - US v Koch U. S. District Judge Vanessa Gilmore approved the Department of Justice and State of Texas' settlement with Koch Industries for $30 million in civil penalties and an additional $5 million in supplemental environmental projects to be funded by Koch. This is the largest penalty imposed on a company under federal environmental laws, and is based upon spills of at least 41,000 barrels of oil and other petroleum, resulting in over three hundred violations of the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 in six states. The largest single spill was approximately100,000 gallons of crude oil which caused a 12-mile oil slick on Nueces Bay and Corpus Christi BayEroded and broken pipelines caused the spills. Six of the spills were into ponds, lakes and rivers." (http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txs/newsletter/pdf/2000m...
5.A year after a pipeline rupture resulted in the biggest spill-related fish kill in Iowa history, the company responsible hasn't paid a dime for wiping wildlife from 48 miles of streams
State lawyers and Koch Pipeline Co. representatives are negotiating how the firm should pay for damaging Lotts Creek and the East Fork of the Des Moines River in the Algona area
www.stb.dot.gov
6.SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BOARD FINDS CERTAIN KOCH PIPELINE CO. RATE INCREASES UNREASONABLY HIGH, ORDERS RATE ROLLBACK & REPARATIONS
The Clinton Administration charged Koch Industries with $352 million in pollution and hazardous waste violations. The Bush Administration dropped the charges when Koch Industries agreed to settle for $332 million less. Shortly after that, the Bush Justice Department settled the lease-cheating case for $20 million, saving Koch Industries another $194 million

The US Senate is set to vote to confirm George M. Gray as the second-in-command at the EPA Office of Research and Development. The ORD studies the science, costs and benefits behind proposed EPA rules
According to information compiled by the Center for Media and Democracy, Gray is affiliated with several pro-business organizations, including the Environmental Literacy Council (ELC), a nonprofit funded by a number of groups with ties to the energy, chemical and defense industries. Among the ELC’s backers are conservative operations such as the John M. Olin Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation and the Koch Family Foundations
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:59 PM
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14. gads- the money, the think tanks, this is the real power
not our futile vote getting efforts.

what a freaking joke this has turned into.

the corpse-orations will never turn this nation loose.

how do American citizens fight something this huge?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:24 AM
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15. It seems that they started off as anti-communist cold war
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 12:25 AM by bluedawg12
rightwingers when they switch to the corporate rule oligoarchy and imperialism version of neoconservativism.

It seems that there are some old line blue bloods and then the
Neo-Cons:
Kagan Family
Kristol Family
Podhoretz Family

How did the neocons get accepted and so powerful in this old line group?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:34 AM
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16. How many generations ago did they actually work their way up?
Sorry, to keep posting on this, but it's got me thinking.

All of the Repug nonsense about working your way up from humble roots, and climbing out of poverty- how many of these sons of wealth and power ever had to go to night school and a community college and still reach the American dream?

According to one of the diagrams even young Michael Dell is connected. So even he is not a self made man in the tech world?

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:05 AM
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17. You forgot the MOST INFLUENTIAL right-wing family there is
The Bradley Family.

Some snippets for you:

With over $700 million in assets1 (down to $489 million in 2002), the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee, Wisconsin is the country's largest and most influential right-wing foundation. As of the end of 1998, it was giving away more than $30 million a year .

And another:

What Bradley Money Buys:

Within Milwaukee, Bradley money goes to a host of local organizations and institutions, most of which are not political in character. Virtually all the cultural institutions and most of the local colleges receive grants. The money buys good will and helps secure the hometown base. The overall objective of the Bradley Foundation, however, is to return the U.S. - and the world- to the days before governments began to regulate Big Business, before corporations were forced to make concessions to an organized labor force. In other words, laissez-faire capitalism: capitalism with the gloves off.

Source:

http://www.mediatransparency.com/funderprofile.php?funderID=1

www.mediatransparency.com has done most of the footwork already as far as mapping out the labyrinth of rightwing think tanks and foundations that support the Republican political machine.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:40 AM
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18. Strict campaign finance laws and a good rewriting of the tax code
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 04:41 AM by leveymg
would virtually wipe these critters out of the American political process within one generation.

The solution is surprisingly simple: 1) Public financing of elections; and 2) the elimination of tax exemptions on trusts and family foundations.

Clean as a whistle.:7
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:27 PM
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21. It's far easier said than done
Politicians in both parties rely to some degree on corporate campaign contributions. Nevermind special interest money of any other kind. Some rely very heavily upon this stuff like a drug, so they would fight against a subsidized election system where only the people's taxpayer dollars are acceptable.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 06:49 AM
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19. Another link from thread one:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 06:57 AM
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20. Is there any reason not to go down the list of Forbes richest?
How about the Waltons?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:28 PM
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22. Bingo...the Walton family
I'm sure they'd want laissez-faire capitalism as well, given that they already won the game of capitalism and would use such a change to further their financial empire.
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