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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:49 PM
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1918 pandemic didn't stop World Series! No military called out or nothing!
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 03:53 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.thediamondangle.com/marasco/hist/1918.html

What was the last American League franchise to win a World Series played in Comiskey Park? The answer - the 1918 Boston Red Sox. The Red Sox? Well, 1918 was a strange year for baseball. Due to the war baseball finished up a month early, with the Cubs and the Red Sox champions. Wrigley Field, then known as Weeghman Park, had a capacity of but 18,000. The powers that be decided that the stadium was too small to host a World Series, and that Comiskey Park with 28,800 seats should act as home turf to the Cubs.

The first game was to have been on Wednesday September 4, but heavy rains called for its postponement. So the World Series started on Thursday instead. The Red Sox elected to use Babe Ruth as their starter, and he faced Jim "Hippo" Vaughn. The Babe came into the Series with a 13-inning World Series scoreless streak as a pitcher. When the game was over the streak had been extended to 22. Ruth had a six-hitter, but only one man reached third. Hippo Vaughn did almost as well, with a five-hitter and only one run. Of course, that run was the only one that the Red Sox would need. The run came in the fourth inning. Second baseman Dave Shean played despite an injured finger, and was able to start the inning with a walk. After Amos Strunk popped out to the pitcher George Whiteman looped a ball past the shortstop to get Shean to second. Stuffy McInnis then singled home Shean for the winning run.

This game was a classic pitcher's duel, with one of the AL's best left-handers facing one of the men involved in the 1917 double no-hitter (Fred Toney no-hit the Cubs in ten, Vaughn losing his no-hitter in the 10th). It was the first 1-0 World Series game since Christy Mathewson's performance in the 1905 classic. However, that's not why this game is remembered. During the seventh inning stretch a Navy band in attendance started playing the Stars Spangled Banner. In a patriotic mood, the entire crowd joined in singing. The song would be played at every game of the Series, and is now a part of baseball's rich tradition.

The second game of the Series would pit Chicago's Lefty Tyler against Bullet Joe Bush. Its odd beginning set the stage for the rest of the day. Harry Hooper started the game with a walk. With two strikes on Shean, Hooper decided to try for second. Shean struck out, but tried to protect Hooper by bumping the catcher Bill Killefer. The throw down to second was wide of its mark, but home plate umpire Hildebrand called Hooper out due to interference. The Red Sox were able to get the leadoff man aboard in the second, and after some confusion on a bunt they had runners on first and second with no out. A sacrifice moved the two runners up, but when Fred Thomas sent a roller to second the runner was cut down at the plate. That killed the Sox rally.

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pattim Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:58 PM
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1. Yes, and it killed 675,000 people.
What a great response that was.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:02 PM
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3. Most deadly World Series ever
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 03:58 PM
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2. Who would have thought 28,800 people would gather during a pandemic?
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 03:59 PM by NNN0LHI
And not just any pandemic either. This 1918 pandemic is billed as the mother of all pandemics. People falling down dead in the streets and shit. And 30 thousand people gather in one place for a fecking World Series? Whats the matter with this picture?

Don
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:03 PM
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4. 1919 flu epidemic: Stanley Cup not awarded
During the 1918-19 Stanley Cup playoffs between the Montreal Canadiens and the Seattle Metropolitans, several Canadiens players contracted Spanish influenza, part of a worldwide epidemic. The finals were cancelled after five games. The final game was never played, because Montreal players Joe Hall, Manager Kennedy, Billy Coutu, Jack McDonald and Edouard Lalonde were hospitalized with influenza. Joe Hall died four days after the cancelled game, and the series was abandoned, remaining tied at 2-2-1. At that time, it was the only year for which the Stanley Cup was not awarded until the labor stoppage of 2004-2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stanley_Cup#1919_flu_epidemic:_Stanley_Cup_not_awarded
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:09 PM
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6. 30,511 people attended the first 1919 World Series game. It went 8 games
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:16 AM
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11. So you're not only saying there will never be a Pandemic....
You're denying the 1918-1919 Pandemic ever happened. Can you provice some non-baseball links to support your interesting thesis?

www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/

www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/

www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen-info/pandemics.htm

http://nmhm.washingtondc.museum/collections/archives/agalleries/1918flu/1918flu.html



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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 09:17 AM
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13. No I never said there wasn't a pandemic in 1918
But I am suggesting it appears that Americans didn't become neurotic about it back then. Play Ball!

Don
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 08:55 AM
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12. October 1919 was after the pandemic
and so not really relevant.

The 1918–19 influenza pandemic began, in some parts of the world, with mild outbreaks in the spring of 1918. In the fall of that year, a lethal wave swept the globe. Outbreaks occurred in early September in North America, Europe, and Africa and spread rapidly, so that the disease had peaked and declined worldwide by the end of December (1–4). Many areas had an additional wave of the disease in the early months of 1919. In most communities, the fall wave of the pandemic lasted approximately l month, with 25% to 30% of the population experiencing symptomatic disease.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol9no10/02-0789.htm


Ironically, Boston in early September 1918 is where the American pandemic is thought to have started. So holding the World Series there may have contributed to its spread.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 05:47 PM
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14. But the 140 game regular season began in the spring of 1919. Not the fall
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 05:48 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/yearly/yr1919a.shtml

Around the league...

Anticipating a poor season at the gate, major league owners decided to open a reduced one-hundred forty game season. Despite the lack of close races, attendance remained high all year and every club managed to show a profit at the end of the year.

The 1919 World Series ignited the infamous "Black Sox" scandal after eight members of the participating White Sox including pitchers Eddie Cicotte and Claude (Lefty) Williams, outfielders Joe Jackson and Happy Felsch, first baseman Chick Gandil, shortstop Swede Risberg, third baseman Buck Weaver and reserve infielder Fred McMullin were all charged with conspiring to fix the outcome of the Fall Classic against the Cincinnati Reds. Cynics were tipped off before the Series even started when the pre-game betting odds swapped shortly before the first game. Despite the rumors, most fans and members of the press accepted the games to be true, but all that would change in 1920 as suspicions turned into confessions. To this day participants in the conspiracy have been denied entry into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 07:18 PM
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15. Some typical actions, and when they were done
In the face of this evidence of brewing disaster, what did the authorities do? As little as possible. To win the war was THE thing. When a Norwegian vessel with 200 active flu cases and three dead men on board docked in New York on August 12, the city health commissioner announced that all of the sick put ashore had pneumonia, not flu, and added, “You haven’t heard of our doughboys getting it, have you? You bet you haven’t, and you won’t.” I’m sure the irony in that statement was totally unintentional. The chief surgeon of the New York port of embarkation was even more blunt: “We can’t stop this war on account of Spanish or any other kind of influenza.” The same day that the first civilian case of flu was admitted to Boston City Hospital (September 3) 3,000 sailors and shipyard workers marched down the streets of Boston in a “Win-the-War-for-Freedom” parade—no doubt spreading the disease in their wake. As late as October 4, with money for the war effort running short, the Chicago health department gave the okay for a huge Liberty Loan parade, assuring the participants they would not catch the disease if they went home, stripped, rubbed their bodies dry, and took a laxative! To say that the authorities were still in a state of denial is to put it mildly. Nor was the German enemy itself without suspicion. It was suggested that German U-boats were landing infected agents on American soil. And as the fall epidemic spread, the U.S. Public Health Service was obliged, under political pressure, to waste its limited resources on investigating whether Bayer, producing aspirin under what had originally been a German patent, was poisoning its customers with flu germs.
...
Thursday October 10, the decision was reversed. Mayor Madgett, this time acting as chairman of the board of health, issued an order “closing theaters, churches, schools, pool rooms and card rooms as a precautionary measure against influenza.” Military pickets were posted around the perimeter of the Hastings College campus, to prevent resident students from leaving. But students living at home in Hastings were still allowed to come and go—”if there is no sickness of any kind in the home.” Obviously, irrational compromises in policy were still the order of the day. Irrational “home remedies” were, as well, ranging from garlic amulets to baking powder in water, as recorded in the Tribune. There were 81 recorded cases in Hastings by October 14; 198 cases four days later. Drs. Brown and J. H. Hahn were themselves reported ill with influenza. The obituary columns of the Tribune were littered with flu victims. And, mirroring the epidemic worldwide, these were primarily previously-healthy people in their twenties and thirties. Flu has always disproportionally killed the very young and the very old; the 1918 epidemic killed a hefty share of people in the prime of life. Secondary bacterial pneumonia, particularly with the germ that came to be known as Hemophilus influenzae, a common pathogen in younger people, probably played a major role. But as previously noted, the flu virus itself was particularly aggressive that year. On October 21, the Nebraska State Board of Health placed a ban on all public gatherings, indoors and outdoors.
...
Schools had reopened November 5. Students were supposed to wear masks to prevent the spread of respiratory disease, but this met with resistance. By the week of November 17, a quarter of the students were reported absent. Similarly, there was a major upswing in flu cases following the victory parade that marked the Armistice of November 11. It was becoming apparent that half-measures in behalf of the public health were as good as nothing at all. On Thursday December 5, 36 new cases of flu were reported to the city physician. All schools in the county, including Hastings College, were ordered closed until December 30. Churches and theaters were closed, and restrictions were placed on businesses’ evening hours. The State Board of Health issued rules for handling influenza as an “absolutely quarantinable disease,” with entire families remaining under quarantine in their homes “until four days after the fever disappears in the patient.” Notices were printed to post on the doors of affected families’ homes. No one other than an attending physician or nurse was allowed to enter. Now that the war was over, full attention was finally being paid to the enemy within. Whether these actions had the intended effect, or the epidemic was simply burning itself out, by mid-December, flu cases were sharply down. Effective Sunday, December 22, churches and theaters were allowed to reopen—but attendees were only allowed to sit in every other row! This restriction was lifted on Tuesday, January 7, 1919. At that time, only dancing remained under the ban, which was finally lifted on January 20.
...
During the first part of April 1919, deaths from influenza and pneumonia again averaged about two per week, into the first week of April. On April 7, the Tribune recorded the death of Nellie Davis of Bladen—one week after her wedding. She was the last apparent flu death in the area. But the complications from the disease trailed on—three more boys with empyema, ages 4, 11, and 15, were admitted to Mary Lanning between March 23 and May 19. They survived, but bore the surgical scars of the disease for the rest of their lives. The rest of the survivors in Adams County, though their scars were of a different sort, did the same.

http://www.adamshistory.org/flu1918.html


So, it's not that surprising that by late April when the baseball season opened, they may have felt public meetings weren't a problem. They did have many restrictions when the flu pandemic was at its height.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:04 PM
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5. but the war forced them to hold it early
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 04:08 PM by enki23
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:14 PM
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7. The Pandemic was just getting serious in September, 1918
...a first wave of influenza appeared early in the spring of 1918 in Kansas and in military camps throughout the US. Few noticed the epidemic in the midst of the war. Wilson had just given his 14 point address. There was virtually no response or acknowledgment to the epidemics in March and April in the military camps. It was unfortunate that no steps were taken to prepare for the usual recrudescence of the virulent influenza strain in the winter. The lack of action was later criticized when the epidemic could not be ignored in the winter of 1918 (BMJ, 1918). These first epidemics at training camps were a sign of what was coming in greater magnitude in the fall and winter of 1918 to the entire world.

The war brought the virus back into the US for the second wave of the epidemic. It first arrived in Boston in September of 1918 through the port busy with war shipments of machinery and supplies.


www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/


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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:36 PM
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10. See post # 6 n/t
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:16 PM
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8. One thing about then versus now...
Back in 1918, deadly disease was much more a part of daily reality for Americans. There were no antibiotics, and most of the vaccines we have today hadn't been invented.

So, even a flu pandemic was probably just one more disease in a long list that could kill you. They lived with that possibility every day. No reason to cancel any ball-games over it!

I was discussing the upcoming pandemic with a buddy of mine, and he was reflecting that Americans today are much more risk-averse than in earlier times. People like myself actually grew up being taught that we had more or less permanently conquered deadly diseases. Since then, we've had to face the reality that it's more of an ongoing war, and sometimes the bugs can still win a battle.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 04:25 PM
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9. Suggest more reading - military was very affected by the 1918 flu
and there were plenty of closings and plenty of stupid acts of trying to keep things running normally. There are a couple of recently published books that take a good look at the 1918 Spanish flu and its effects on society.

Precautions against the disease were primitive and largely ineffective. In Chicago, public funerals were banned, and private funerals were limited to 10 people -- including the undertaker. Bars, dance halls, and movie theaters were closed, but churches and schools remained open. Public spitters were arrested. Businesses were asked to stagger their working days to reduce rush-hour crowds on public transportation.

http://www.gapersblock.com/airbags/archives/chicago_and_the_influenza_epidemic_of_1918/

In early October, with more than 300 cases of the flu reported in Mechanicville, all schools were ordered closed, the planned War Chest giant parade was cancelled, and all funerals had to be held in private. The day these actions were reported in newspapers, October 10, death records reveal that four city residents died of the flu, the average age of the victims: 29 years old. Striking young healthy men and women in their prime with little warning was typical of this epidemic. Public attention to these grim facts probably became more focused in the next few days. While newspapers reported, "Epidemic Spreading at Ballston Spa," the 32-year-old principal at Stillwater, Alex Bacon, died after a brief bout with the virus. That same week, Fr. Daniel Scalabrella, an Augustinian immigrant priest stationed here, returned on Saturday from a religious retreat at Villanova. He fell ill Sunday afternoon, entered St. Mary's Hospital in Troy that evening, and died the following morning. He was 41 years old, one of three local Catholic priests who died in the epidemic. The day before his death, The Saratogian had noted: "the Epidemic Light in Mechanicville," in a story side-by-side with a large advertisement for Vicks Vaporub. Vicks, of course, had to compete with "home remedies" like that sent to newspapers by a former area resident which promised that egg whites and mustard placed alternately on the back of the neck and pit of the stomach in 20 minute intervals were the cure. Failing that, a boiling cup of hot water and liquorice, consumed when hottest, was a sue-fire remedy. Then again, people seemed to be clutching at straws while authorities wanted to avoid causing alarm.

Contradicting its own previous story, The Sartogian reported on October 18, that "the grippe," as the flu was called at times, had felled more than 200 people here. Dr. Van Doren, City Health Officer, maintained the ban on school openings and any form of public gatherings, and funerals continued to be held privately. The fact that people were denied the comfort and solace of friends and relatives in the hour of their greatest need must have made their mourning especially painful. Of come, things were worse in larger cities like Buffalo where the coffins of the dead were stacked in the streets for want of healthy gravediggers. The city, by the way, opened a municipal coffin factory because of the increased demand for them. In Mechanicville, eight people died that week from the flu including six young women, average age 18, possibly leading the city council to establish an emergency "influenza hospital" on North Main St. The facility, manned by five nurses and their assistants from Boston, was needed because, as the newspaper reported, "local physicians are working night and day and their efforts are taxed to the utmost to care for all who need them." Dr. Anthony Mauro, especially active in the Italian immigrant community, was further challenged when his 3l-year-old wife died of influenza. Less than a week after the opening of the temporary hospital on North Main St., St. John's Polish Hall in Riverside was converted into an "emergency influenza hospital." The illness was particularly virulent in that part of the community.

http://www.mechanicville.com/history/articles/westnile.htm

But the situation in New Hampshire would worsen for two more weeks.

Hotels turned into hospitals, schools closed, and public gatherings were forbidden.

Under front page banners that proclaimed the triumphs of the war, the Union newspaper catalogued the casualties of flu.

...The influenza situation in Concord remains practically unchanged. Many new cases are reported daily, but it is believed the number of recoveries offset the new ones. The city is practically closed up tight, except for the stores on main st. Soda and ice cream are taboo in the drug stores but there continues a brisk trade in cough and cold remedies. All meeting have been called off, most of these scheduled having been voluntarily abandoned before the orders issued yesterday afternoon by the city board of health. The emergency hospital in the old Elks home was opened this afternoon and five patients were moved in immediately with others in prospect. Mayor French was in charge of the installation of the beds and improved hospital equipment, and assisted personally in the arrangement of things...

Daily newspapers reported calls for nurses and new regulations that forbade church services and limited the number of mourners at funerals.

http://www.nhpr.org/node/9737
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