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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:15 PM
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"Good Night, Good Luck" - Question . . .
I know I read something about it here a while back. Looks like it'll be a damn good movie to me! What do you think? I plead ignorance here, so please forgive me.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:17 PM
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1. The advance word is that it is very good
And timely as well, what with the wingnuts attempts to rehabilitate McCarthy lately.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:20 PM
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2. I will be going next week to see it. Sounds superb from all
I've read and heard.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:23 PM
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3. It's a must-see
What we're going through isn't entirely new. The press was cowed before, when Senator Joe McCarthy was on a witch-hunt for "commies." People turned in friends to the government. People were called before congress and if they didn't name names, they were ruined, whether or not they knew any actual commies. Many "gave up" co-workers and friends who were accused just so they themselves weren't labeled commies. Finally, a brave radio journalist named Edward R. Murrow began to speak out against it. The network brass threatened him with perpetual fluff reporting. He had to make the choice -- country or career. He determined that he'd have to do a few fluff pieces in order to stay on the air long enough to help bring down McCarthy. When he finally did, and broadcast a now-famous speech telling America, essentially, WAKE THE FUCK UP, it was a turning point in the McCarthy witch hunts, and gave others in the press the balls to stand up, too.

I think the timing of the release of this movie is spectacular.

I hope all the goddam lilly-livered young twits calling themselves "journalists" see this movie, and fast. America needs 'em as much now, if not more, than it did back in Murrow's day.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:28 PM
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4. I'm going to see it this weekend. I haven't spoken with anyone
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 11:28 PM by Lindsey
who's seen it yet because it's in very limited release until next weekend. However, I've read lots of articles and reviews about it and people are raving. George Clooney, a fine progressive I might add, is much more than a pretty face. He co-wrote and directed this film. He has a lesser role in it as an actor because he had someone in mind who he felt would be perfect for the role, and apparently there's even oscar buzz for this actor. I can't wait to see this film!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:33 PM
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6. Oh My! Picture Of The Year? Can You Imagine The Speech??
Wow!!!!!!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:35 PM
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7. Yes Indeed, The Timing Is Spectacular! (nt)
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:24 AM
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20. Actually we needed this movie 3-5 years ago, but better late than never.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:33 PM
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5. tremendous subject matter. The images of McCarthy are real ones
used for the film. I grew up with Murrow and Straithhorn is dead on. It was deeply dangerous to be in opposition then and he helped take McCarthy down. He's one of my life long heroes and this movie seems to do him justice.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:35 PM
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8. Two thumbs up from Ebert and Roeper
Adding that the movie reminds us that dissenting does not mean that one is "anti American."

Plus, their prediction that Faux News and Limping and the rest would consider it a liberal propagnada... you know it has to be good.


Can't wait to see it.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:45 PM
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9. Terrific movie. Just saw it tonight.
Murrow was prophetic in his vision of the world of news and media. His words back then ring so eerily true today.

To me, its kind of an "Apollo 13" of the media world. Not quite as action packed, but much more significant and in the lives of all Americans, namely those who were hunted by McCarthy.

My hope is it will become a catalyst for more films that chronicle historic moments and historic material.

I also hope for a time where people like Murrow will be more common place. That people doing good work and taking on the tough issues will be rewarded for their work, and commended in the highest capacity in all realms.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 11:57 PM
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10. Here's some historic Murrow audio
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 12:01 AM by longship
I love Murrow. He was fearless.

Here's absolute classic Murrow reporting from London.
Sociological Impact of War from 4 Sept 1939
724 Kb MP3 (3:04)

Another classic wartime Murrow. "This is London"
Wartime Spring in England from 9 March 1941
1.7 Mb MP3 (7:14)

Right click on links and select "Save as...".
Enjoy everybody.

on edit: added timings
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:46 AM
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14. Thanks, longship! You inspired me to search for more...
On April 5, 2005, Peter Jennings, the longtime ABC news anchor, announced on-air that he was suffering from lung cancer. His death four months later produced an outpouring of admiration for the 67-year-old former Canadian. Although he had little formal education, Jennings was hired as the ABC early evening anchor on Christmas Eve in 1964 at the age of 26 and would begin broadcasting in February 1965. Ironically, at the time that the young Jennings was breaking into one of the most coveted spots in television news, Edward R. Murrow, one of the pioneers of the genre, was slowly dying from what President Lyndon B. Johnson called “cancer of the lung.” Murrow had left CBS news in 1961 to become director of the United States Information Agency and had thrived in the high-profile position until he was diagnosed with cancer in 1963, with surgeons removing one of his diseased lungs in October 1963. By January 1964, his health had deteriorated so much that he resigned his USIA post.

Two days before Murrow’s departure was official, Lyndon Johnson tracked him down in an airport as the newsman was traveling to La Jolla, California, to visit with Jonas Salk. Johnson wanted to talk to talk about Murrow’s replacement, the journalist and U.S. ambassador to Finland Carl Rowan, and to express his fondness for Murrow’s work. At the end of the conversation, after hearing the President’s compliments, Murrow’s emotionally-laden voice cracked. Those would be his final recorded words to Johnson. He died 15 months later, on April 28, 1965, at the age of 57, three months after Jennings went on the air.


download LBJ_Murrow audio here



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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:44 AM
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22. I have many MP3's with Murrow.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 02:04 AM by longship
And hours and hours of WW II era newscasts including some real gems.
I have posted links to more Murrow on these forums in the past. You can search for them; they're still up on my server.

Link to more Murrow
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:38 PM
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25. Thank you, longship!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:28 AM
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11. Here's a list of blacklisted film artists of the '40's & '50's
by the (get this) House Un-American Activities Committee or HUAC:

First, the "Hollywood Ten":

While the Hollywood Ten were the most high-profile screenwriters and directors blacklisted, many others, including some of Hollywood's most famous and successful writers found themselves unable to work in their fields during the time of the red scare while others had their careers all but destroyed.

Alvah Bessie, screenwriter
Herbert Biberman, screenwriter, director
Lester Cole, screenwriter
Edward Dmytryk, director
Ring Lardner, Jr, journalist, screenwriter
John Howard Lawson, writer
Albert Maltz, author, screenwriter
Samuel Ornitz , screenwriter
Adrian Scott, screenwriter, film producer
Dalton Trumbo, screenwriter, novelist

Most estimates indicate that the blacklist involved approximately 325 employees in film and related industries. However, according to Carl Foreman's son, Jonathan Foreman, a lawyer, historian, and editorial writer and senior film critic for the New York Post, there were 500 or so victims of the Hollywood blacklist. Dalton Trumbo said of it: "the blacklist was a time of such evil, no one survived untouched."

Blacklisted Film Artists:

Allen Adler, screenwriter
Larry Adler, actor, musician
Orson Bean, actor
Barbara Bel Geddes, actress
Herschel Bernardi, actor
Walter Bernstein, screenwriter
John Berry, actor, screenwriter, director
Marc Blitzstein, composer
Allen Boretz, songwriter
Phoebe Brand, actress
Bertolt Brecht, screenwriter
J. Edward Bromberg, actor
Sidney Buchman, screenwriter
Hugo Butler, screenwriter
Morris Carnovsky, actor
Jerome Chodorov, writer
Aaron Copland, composer
Jeff Corey, actor
John Cromwell director
Jules Dassin, director
Roger De Koven, actor
Paul Draper, actor, dancer
Hanns Eisler, composer
Cy Endfield, screenwriter, director
John Henry Faulk, radio personality
Jerry Fielding, composer
Carl Foreman, producer, screenwriter
John Garfield, actor
Betty Garrett, actress
Will Geer, actor
Jack Gilford, actor
Bernard Gordon, screenwriter
Lloyd Gough, actor
Lee Grant, actress
Dashiell Hammett, writer
Sterling Hayden, actor
Lillian Hellman, playwright
Marsha Hunt, actress
Sidney Kingsley, playwright
Sam Jaffe, actor
Paul Jarrico, producer, screenwriter
Gordon Kahn, screenwriter
Pert Kelton, actress
Victor Kilian, actor
Howard Koch, screenwriter, actor
Alexander Knox, actor
Arthur Laurents, writer
Marc Lawrence, actor
John Howard Lawson, writer
Canada Lee, actor
Robert Lees, screenwriter
Louise Lewis, actress
Philip Loeb, actor
Joseph Losey, director
Arnold Manoff, screenwriter
Robert A. McGowan, screenwriter, director
Burgess Meredith, actor
Arthur Miller, playwright
Karen Morley, actress
Zero Mostel, actor
Jean Muir, actress
Clifford Odets, writer
Dorothy Parker, writer
Larry Parks, actor
Leo Penn, actor
Abraham Polonsky, screenwriter, director
John Randolph, actor
Maurice Rapf, screenwriter
Anne Revere, actress
Rosaura Revueltas, actress
Frederic I. Rinaldo, screenwriter
Martin Ritt, actor, director
Paul Robeson, actor, singer
Edwin Rolfe, poet
Robert Rossen, screenwriter
Jean Rouverol, actress, writer
Waldo Salt, screenwriter
Pete Seeger, folk singer
Irwin Shaw, writer
Joshua Shelley, actor
Howard Da Silva, actor
Gale Sondergaard, actress
Lionel Stander, actor
Frank Tarloff, screenwriter
Dorothy Tree, actress
Louis Untermeyer, poet
Michael Wilson, screenwriter
Richard N. Wright, writer
Nedrick Young, actor, screenwriter

Source: Blacklisted Artists
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:37 AM
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12. That's quite a list were they all "communists" ? nm
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:53 AM
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17. Some were alleged to be communists & others admitted it.
The Hollywood blacklist stemmed from events dating back to the 1930s, when political ideology was being shaped by the rise of fascism abroad, and domestically by the business tactics of many capitalists, who were considered ruthless by some. Another factor was the suffering of the unemployed and working poor during the Great Depression. At this time, communist ideals of equality for all citizens were being falsely promoted as how life was in the Soviet Union by Josef Stalin's government. Given the desperate unemployment conditions and lengthy soup lines in every city in America, the popularity of communism grew. During World War II, this would be aided, and even legitimized, because the communist Soviet Union was part of the Allied forces fighting against Nazi Germany.

more
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:38 AM
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13. Link to the site
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 12:40 AM by texpatriot2004
http://wip.warnerbros.com/goodnightgoodluck/

Yeah. I can see it in Houston on 10/14/05
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:48 AM
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15. Local Release Dates


OCTOBER 7, 2005
Boston
Los Angeles
New York
San Francisco
Washington D.C.

OCTOBER 14, 2005
Atlanta
Baltimore
Dallas
Denver
Detroit
Ft. Lauderdale
Houston
Miami
Minneapolis
Philadelphia
Phoenix
Portland
Seattle
West Palm Beach

OCTOBER 21, 2005
Albuquerque
Anchorage
Austin
Charlotte
Chicago
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Columbus
Fresno
Ft. Meyers
Honolulu
Indianapolis
Jacksonville
Kansas City
Las Vegas
Monterey
Orlando
Pittsburg
Reno
Sacramento
Salt Lake City
San Antonio
San Diego
Santa Barbara
St. Louis
Tallahassee

OCTOBER 28, 2005
Montreal
Nashville
Toronto
Tucson
Vancouver


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:44 PM
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27. It's playing in NYC now but not in this burb.......
:-(
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:50 AM
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16. Murrow's role in this is somewhat overblown ...
I know most of the people here are way, way too young to remember, but there had been stories about McCarthy's tactics written in the New York Times and in other papers for more than a year before the famous "See It Now" broadcast. And, contrary to popular opinion, it was NOT Murrow's expose that put the nail in McCarthy's coffin: that came about a year later during the Army McCarthy hearings; that's the one in which the witness asked him "Have you no shame ... at long last."

To Murrow's everlasting credit, however, he was the first TV broadcaster to take a serious look at McCarthy. This is very significant when you think about who the TV audience was in the 1950s - middle class Americans, war veterans, who were accustomed to think well of their country and their leaders. Murrow carefully took them into the cobweb-filled mind of McCarthy in a series of shows that looked at people whose lives had been ruined by McCarthy's scare tactics, finally culminating in the direct examination of McCarthy that I think this movie concentrates upon.

Murrow also deserves credit for the gamble he forced his network to take, since it was well and truly thought that TV should be an entertainment and not a news medium. Unlike print journalists, who had an established string of court precedent protecting their freedom of speech, there was no such foundation for TV reporting. Yet the network's cojones quickly retracted after the broadcast, and CBS' main rival, NBC, never picked up its gauntlet. In fact, when McCarthy started his new witchhunt against the Army, both CBS and NBC turned complete chicken and did not report on the hearings.

However, ABC - then a brand new network - took a gamble. They knew that American's eyes had been opened due to Murrow's broadcast and that, despite what the other networks thought, there WAS an audience among the middle class for political and news content on TV. ABC's hunch was justified when millions of Americans abandoned the game shows and soap operas being shown on the other two networks and tuned in to ABC for its gavel-to-gavel coverage. It was when Americans saw with their own eyes what kind of person McCarthy was - instead of reading about it in print or catching edited glimpses - that McCarthy's reign of terror came to an end.

So, even though Murrow didn't bring down McCarthy, he deserves all the credit in the world for giving the American public a gentle shove that turned into a momentum of public opinion that eventually brought the monster down. Had Murrow not taken the chance and woken the sleeping American middle class to the danger - well, who knows what we would have today. Perhaps a government that rules by fear and making scapegoats?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:03 AM
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18. Excellent perception.
Edited on Wed Oct-12-05 01:03 AM by 8_year_nightmare
Something tells me you're a writer. A very educated one. :)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 06:40 AM
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23. Thanks, Gary
Excellent background info, and a good read. Some stuff I hadn't heard before!
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:40 PM
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26. It's much better to see the original programs
than some cinematic re-enactment.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:39 PM
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29. I blame Eisenhower for allowing his party to do this.....
However, I've read some say Ike really undercut McCarthy behind the scenes. Maybe.... but it seems like Ike should have got his party to moderate or stop this asshole.

And if you don't know it yet.... The Rethug Party is making an effort to rehabilitate Joe McCarthy and his form of Republicanism. We're hearing more and more that McCarty was right and shouldn't be vilified.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:09 AM
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19. McCarthy hearings were like the OJ trial--everybody was glued to their TVs
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:27 AM
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21. hat parrallels between McCarthy era hearings and today's
politics do you see?
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 06:47 AM
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24. compilation of reviews
Only 70 reviews so far at IMDb because GNGL has been in limited release. Nationwide release is October 14.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433383/externalreviews
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 12:59 PM
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28. Have you seen this article in Newsweek?
Curious George:
Everything you thought you knew about Clooney—the roguish guy's guy and lady-killer—is true. So how'd he direct one of the best and smartest movies of the year?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9555148/site/newsweek/

I haven't seen it yet but it sounds like a winner to me.
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