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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:39 AM Original message |
In Defense of Referencing Hitler |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. I see no reason not to "reference hitler" |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. Well apparently since hitler killed million & bush only 150,000 so far, |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. Godwin Is A Nazi! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You lose! |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. And The Reference Cam Up So Very Early In The Thread Too. |
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mestup (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. Interesting! |
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afdip (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. read the link. for norquist to liken the morality of the estate tax |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. The problem with Referencing Hitler |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Same can be said about guns. Except the word "Hitler" doesnt kill. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Then the problem isn't referencing Hitler, |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
6. When someone complains about comparing bu$h to Hitler |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. I don't think anyone's forgetting Hitler or saying that it could never |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. A comparison to Hitler would never be appropriate? |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. When appropriate it would be. Now it is not. |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I Do Not Think Nazi Or Hitler Are Great Analogies (Too Specific). |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Better, Closer, Warmer - as Jack Black would say! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. The appropriate time is before it is too late |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Apparently we have to wait for more atrocities and a higher body count and |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
77. please read some books about Weimar Germany, |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 11:16 AM Response to Reply #77 |
95. Yes people are completely different now |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. the historical context is not the same |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Chavez, I love you man, but.... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Come on - 6,000,000 Jews alone? |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Hmmm. |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. See, that's the thing |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #70 |
96. 'There just won't be another situation like that' |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Even Hitler did not start out being Hitler. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Once upon a time he was a cute, cuddly O'Reilly-type fascist |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Once upon a time there was a time before Hitler - now we know about him |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. This is ridiculous. The American people would never let a Hitler come to |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No, it was something like 80 million (compared to our 135 million |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Thgere are definately parallels, no doubt. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. What do you call Gitmo? |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I knew you were going to say that. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Well, I can't claim to be able to see into the shrivled, black hearts |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
89. Sorry Chavez, I disagree... I think all of it is possible again. Slavery, |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. It can't happen here, eh? |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I never said it couldn't happen here. I said that comparing Bush to Hitler |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 09:15 AM Response to Reply #62 |
93. That actually isnt what you said. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. "God bless America" |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Are you saying that I'm a Nationalist by saying that the make up of the US |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. no... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Agreed. Do you think that it's happening the same way? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Patriot Act |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. It certainly is. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. what is the difference? n/t |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. You and your family aren't put in front of a firing squad |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 01:10 AM Response to Reply #75 |
91. You see no difference? |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
80. the level of American support for what the population feels |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Ha! Drink some more kool-aid, lady! |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. well |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
79. my husband has been listening to a lot or recorded history books |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
92. The Nazi Party was not Right Wing, |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Yes it was right wing, it just LIED. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. The Nazis were pro-labor the way * is pro-education. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. when in Hitlers reign would it have been appropriate to point out his ways |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. way to try and stifle dissent, Hitler |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Ja, das ist korre...HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. I don't think the left referencing Hitler is too over the top.... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Come on! |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. Referencing Hitler is fighting words now. "Fascist" is the word ... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. That's a misstatement of Godwin's Law |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Good pt |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Exactly. It's been clear to me for years that many wish to inhibit ... |
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Very true. |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. I always say that "They may not be Nazi's but they are just....... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
21. Maybe if this administraiton would stop drawing such obvious parallels |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. It's a deal...* stops acting like Hitler, we'll stop calling him that |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
23. Shit, I frequently re to Hitler.... |
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Sweet Freedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
27. When faced with the dilemma |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. If there is no lesson to be learned from WWII, school is out! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Agree, and erring on the side of caution when the stakes are so high |
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radar (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. Billmon wrote about the method of getting generals compliant... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
40. Godwin sounds like a Hitler wanna-be dick. Or a school marm. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
45. To reference Hitler as the extreme is fair |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
48. People who cry foul at the mention of Hitler never cease to amaze me. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. "America is the new Nazi Germany" |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. educate yourself |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Ok I'll "educate" myself |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Educate YOURSELF |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. and what would a holocost survivor say? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. "Holograms are horribly expensive. Don't buy them." (nt) |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. I imagine they would say "until you've seen 100 people |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. It's in times like these that I love my sig. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
83. Even better is Klemperer's I Will Bear Witness..... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Why, what are you planning? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. I don't think there were too many peace protests in Berlin back in 37 |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
60. Okay... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Educate yourself |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. . |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. It's just gettin' too serious in here! |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Indeed! |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Sorry - I meant Sirius |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
84. Hitler on Ice! (nt) |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
78. I agree completely with everything you just said. n/m |
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next93 (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
98. A civil word from the "other side". |
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