Anyone else personally witnessing bush supporters jumping ship?

During the last few months I have personally talked to people I know who have turned against georgie. A lot of it came when it started hitting their wallets and one because her son is being deployed to Iraq.

I also know a handful that just aren't as loud as a supporter as they were last year. Are a lot of you experiencing the same thing? I am guessing that with approvals at 37-38% that many of you are.

Another is apparently still a supporter but he isn't going around pushing people's face in it anymore.

They're digging in. Harri Miers is a good Xian lady who deserves an "Upperdownvote", Homos will destroy Murka, Steve Buyer doesn't need to give back Tom DeLay's money, and besides, it was only $800, Count Chocola got 3 Grand...And Slikwilli Klintoon raped that little girl on his desktop until she bled all over that blue dress...

No Reason, please, we're Hoosiers.....

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Huh?

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Sorry not enough time for every website.

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Indiana Third District
ReTHUG.
Fundy.
Neo-Con.
Here's his latest "Claim to Fame":
Washington, DC, Oct 7 - U.S. Rep. Chris Chocola (R-Ind.) believes we can -and should-develop sound strategies that will ensure our nation is ready to meet its growing energy demands. On Friday, the U.S. House of Representatives took a big step toward energy independence by passing H.R. 3893, the "Gasoline for America's Safety Act (GAS Act)." Chocola supported the GAS Act, which passed the House by a vote of 212-210.



The happy Chocola fambly...

here's a pix of the Congressman's uncle from Transylvania:

thanks

GAS is right

a lot of Libertarians coming out of the woodwork these days! I usually stop that conversation by asking who they voted for in the last election, and who was the Libertarian candidate...They mutter under their breath and walk off.

Good tactic! I may just have to try that. I've suddenly noticed a slew of "libertarians" that I strongly suspect couldn't name the libertarian candidate. :hi:

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I always wonder what they took off, but I have a good idea.

Over the course of the last 6 months everyone in my community have scraped the * stickers off their bumpers. And someone has been going around to all of the stop signs and spray painting * under the stop. So when you roll up on the stop signs they read Stop Bush. It really is quite funny considering what a conservative area I live in. I laugh every time I pull up to those stop signs. I honestly don't know wrote it, but it's nice to know someone in the community dislikes him as much as I do.

their complete joy of Bush instaed of Clinton. Now they are mum.

every morning and eats breakfast with the town's men. He and his buddies have done this for years and during the election they all thought he was crazy for not voting and backing Bush.

Now they all deny that they were for Bush. He said it's wonderful watching them all deny it. Warms my heart.

our area is dark dark red. We are one of 3 dems on our street of 50 houses. Our immediate neighbor sported W '04 stickers for months. The kid across the street was going to dress as Kerry for last year halloween by wearing flip-flops around his neck.

we had a neighborhood rummage sale recently and our W '04 neighbor and the father of the kid across the street came over to talk. Started with a discussion (initiated by them) about outsourcing and how horrible it is. How our kids have no future and then ambled into deficit (spurred on by us)

then W '04 guy says how sick he is of * and how Delay is disgusting and how re: Frist Blind trust means not being able to see it.

then he said "I want Clinton back. Things were good under Clinton."

Then the guy across the street feigned shock and said Clinton? what about Monica?

W'04 guy says I don't care what he does on the side he ran the country better than these guys.

Then across the street guy says I care that he did that in the WH -

so I said "What about Gannon? don't you care about that?"

them: "who?" (both are avid fox watcers)

me: Gannon the male prostitute they allowed in the press corps to throw softball questions at the Pres without any background check."

them: with look of horror/disbelief "we didn't know about that"

The conversation continued into more issues but bottom line is both said they would vote for a democrat after seeing this if "the dems put up someone I could vote for."

Big issues for them were deficit (huge) outsourcing (huge) and energy (moderate) both hate that China owns so much of us.

They are both angry about what they see as a horrible future for our kids. W'04 guy said voting for him was worst mistake of my life.

(my repub dad said same thing a month or so ago, both these guys are repubs for economic reasons. My dad told me he voted for * for second term for econ reasons and I laughed in his face - rude I know but couldn't be helped- and said "what economic reasons? - worst spender in history" to which he replied "I know.")

I think our neighbors started the conversation because after Katrina, we put a sticker on our car it says: "Proud to be American, Ashamed of our Government" They didn't mention it in the conversation, but I think it is why they wanted to bounce things off of us.

However, on the further into denial side: My mom and her husband and my husband's family are just further into the denial stage. Only watch fox and refuse to admit what can be seen. My husband's family are Christian (actually are but are misguided by the churches they've been going to) and my mom likes to live in a bubble. If she can ignore bad stuff she does. She has always lived a very sheltered life and thinks everyone has it good. She does understand there are those who are disadvantaged and tries to help them, but won't admit what really is going on.

Anyway, yes people are changing. Our dark red neighborhood was filled with W stickers and now I am seeing very few of them.

And is now frantically gulping down the kool aid as THINGS FALL APART because of Republican Incompetence and their Culture of Corruption.

But Big Bro won't budge an inch. It may seem a cliche to report this, but it's true: his fall back position on everything is Bill Clinton did this or that or whatever (and also got a blow job). When Big Bro does that, at least once or twice a week, I feel a sense of pity for him. He is so stuck, but so unable to deal with the truth.

Over the last two weeks I have been trying to get him to watch video footage of Bush at the Booker Elementary school in Florida on 9/11 -- the classic footage of him freezing, fumbling, and stalling while America was under attack.

But Big Bro refuses to watch. He will only repeat Talking Points -- but is (in my view) terrified of what he will learn and have to admit to himself if he sees the video: Bush failed. He went AWOL on America at the hour of its crisis. Bush panicked and froze.

the truth of 9/11 is so ugly that my Big Bro, and many other citizens, are absolutely terrified of it.

That keeps them frozen in "support" of the Republican Culture of Corruption and BushCo's failed White House.

- eom -

Before the election, I was discussing the merits of Kerry vs. Bush to someone. He professes to be "more of an independant", though in reality he's more of a Libertarian. His dad had already told me a few weeks earlier that Bush is a disaster (and he's the a Republican from days long past). Anyhow...

He (the son) was still supposedly undecided a month or two prior to the election. His biggest "fear" about voting for Kerry was that his taxes would go up, by his calculations something like $1200. This was stunning to me that he thought this would be so. He insisted he'd read it right there in Kerry's plan. :crazy: So, either he's making a whole lot more than I thought, or he was just flat out wrong. It's hard to argue about that with someone without asking flat out what they make (which, IMO, would be highly intrusive and rude).

Fast forward to today...we don't talk about it much at all. LOL!

I work with two people who voted for georgie because they just knew he would put people in that would abort abortions. Now they don't seem to give a shit about that anymore, they want their gas prices to come down..LOL

Not so much flipping from "for" to "against", but more from "he's not so bad, why the anger", to "I get it now. These guys are crooks, liars and incompetent."
The Professor

The ones who know me and my politics know better than to discuss such things with me anyway. At best, some of them are very quiet about the whole thing; its as if they think, "maybe if I just ignore it, this mess will all just go away."

But I know just as many that are blissfully ignorant of anything wrong. In their little Pollyanna worlds, * is just the greatest president ever, and doing a wonderful job; they still can't understand why there is so much criticism of such a great leader. That's okay with me, though; I think I'm close to selling a bridge to a couple of them.

I'm still seeing tons of "W"astikas and pro-repuke, pro-fundie stupidity bumper stickers. We're talking "kicking and screaming" to the nth degree. It seems they'll jump in a lake of fire rather than admit they were wrong about this asshole.

I live here too and don't see that many. Of course I am right in Cleveland so maybe your part is a bit more red.

I still see them because in Avon Lake/Westlake/Bay Village, there are more than a handful of morans who have the Kool-aid IV drip going on. These are truly the pseudo-affluent NASCAR Dad/Security Mom single-issue idiots that were talked about so much in the media last election; they just make me cringe. Remember, Westflake drew 23,000 for Bewsh when he visited, and this was during the day (too bad I was working, would have lended my voice).

Have you ever seen the guy that drives around the Westlake/NO/Bay Village area with BUSH in big masking taped letters on his back window? This is what I mean by "kicking and screaming" . . . believing everything Daddy Rove feeds them. At least in other areas they're admitting they were wrong in handfuls. Not here.

I tend to stay out of those areas. There isn't much for me to do out that way. I'm in Old Brooklyn and I don't see many bush stickers and such.
Actually i did see a pretty good looking woman in the store yesterday and we both walked out at the same time. I noticed a bush sticker on her car and she wasn't so pretty after that..LOL. She took off to 480 so I figured she must have been an out of towner.

that have re-registered as either Independents or (gasp) Democrats. I might also mention that we know ONE rabid *ie that is still "supporting the President." The rest are distancing themselves from him and his policies as fast as they can abandon the Republican party.

The upcoming election may be interesting for Republicans around the country. Of course, they have Diebold.

Julie

3 if you count me. :P

Something is very very wrong in this country, and I cannot believe the people who sleeping through it.

:hi:

I think more and more people are waking up from their sleep.

Much more so than normal. So I don't know what's going on in their mind. Hoping at least a few are not going to vote or will vote Dem.

Next two are not political at all. I think he has jumped the administration ship.

in the first place. His attempts to curry favor would have halted anyway. He is better off talking about how bad TV shows are.

He's a friend of my husband's since childhood, and for the first four years, we listened to him boasting, bragging, swaggering, and crowing about how great the mighty Bushler was, how moral, especially compared to Clinton, yadda, yadda, yadda. Now, he's blubbering and pleading, and whining that the 'liberal' press has been AGAINST Bush from the beginning, they have NEVER, EVER, given him a chance, and they aren't giving him a chance now, Bush is really a great guy, just misunderstood.

My husband just shakes his head, but since they've been friends for 50 years, forbids me from offering his friend the name of a good shrink, and a suggestion that anti-psychotic drugs might just help.

but he will never go Dem - others are very quiet these days. I still see a shitload of Bush stickers here in my red state.

indicted. And the forecast for next week is a cold snap in Hell. So I am hopeful for an indictment of Rove.

I had told everyone that if someone recanted their Bush support I would just say, "Eat shit." He and I had some good natured discussions, but one day he just hung his head and said he felt betrayed by Bush and that he was as bad as I had been saying all along. He even apologized to me and teared up. I couldn't even say, "I told you so."