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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:42 PM
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Fitz Leaves Court ---pix->>>
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 01:57 PM by Stephanie
:loveya:

How's he feeling?




Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald leaves the U.S. District Court after Karl Rove testified before the grand jury on Friday, Oct. 14, 2005, in Washington. Rove testified for the fourth time Friday before the grand jury in the CIA leak probe, following public disclosure of his conversations with two reporters about the identity of a covert officer at the spy agency. (AP Photo/Kevin Wolf)

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/051014/480/dckw10510141803

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*edit* Another one:



Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald walks past protestors as he leaves the U.S. Federal Courthouse in Washington, DC, October 14, 2005. U.S. President George W. Bush's political adviser, Karl Rove, made a fourth appearance before a federal grand jury investigating the leak of a CIA operative's identity. REUTERS/Jim Young

http: //news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/051014/ids_photos_ts/r1344045850.jpg

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:42 PM
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1. He looks serious but confident. n/t
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:43 PM
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2. He looks....determined?
I was going to say mad, but determined might be the right word.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:52 PM
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8. Determined...yes, that is it! nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:57 PM
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15. I think so too
And confident. Mean while Karl Rove is off smiling and trying to compose himself.
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NCPatriot Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:43 PM
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3. I hope he is careful on the drive home... N/T
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:45 PM
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4. He doesn't look nearly as smug as Rove.
But then he's not playing to the cameras either.

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:02 PM
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20. You are right, Rove looks much happier than Fitz does in the pics
God help us.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:45 PM
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5. How would you look with the fate of a nation and your own party in
your hands?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:07 PM
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24. Who said he's a republican???
:shrug: He's listed as an independent and I don't recall him ever stating he's a republican himself.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:27 PM
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36. He's registered independent
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:28 PM by Stephanie
But he grew up in Brooklyn and his parents were Irish immigrants and his dad was a doorman and he worked his way through school as a doorman himself. Hardly an elitist entitled Republican.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:07 PM
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62. Here FreedomAngel82 - keep handy for when you need it
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55560-2005Feb1?language=printer

<snip>

Fitzgerald is careful to be apolitical in his targets and his public life alike. He registered to vote as an Independent in New York, only to discover, when he began receiving fundraising calls, that Independent was a political party. He re-registered with no affiliation, as he did later in Chicago.

He spit fire last year when reporters asked whether the racketeering indictment of Muhammad Hamid Khalil Salah, a fundraiser for the Islamic militant group Hamas, was timed to boost President Bush's reelection campaign. The case was trumpeted first by Attorney General John Ashcroft.

"I am not running for an election. I'm not part of a political party," Fitzgerald said at the time. "The election is irrelevant to this case. The reason we brought this case now is we're ready to proceed."

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:36 PM
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65. Ooops. I had read somewhere, I thought here, that he was a Republican.
My bad. Glad to hear it.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:06 PM
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70. It's because he prosecuted some Democrats in Chicago
Which is a good thing!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:02 PM
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67. He looks like he is carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders n/t
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:47 PM
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6. Confident. That looks like a purposeful stride to me.
He also looks a tad bit disgusted, as if whatever KKKarl said was BS.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:52 PM
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7. Yup
Determined but disgusted. That is the walk of a man who knows he's locked and loaded.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:37 PM
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41. Bingo I agree He looks like a man who is disgusted with
a traitor who thinks he has nothing to worry about!!! Karl feels like godlike and Karl hasn't got a clue!!!
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:53 PM
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9. He looks way too...out in the open.
Shouldn't he be wearing a bullet-proof vest or something? :o
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:57 PM
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16. If he is and the shirt and jacket are tailored for it
(incidentally some of George's are not) you'd never know
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:08 PM
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25. He has people around him though
Cameras and people behind him. I think he'll be okay. :hug:
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6th Borough Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:04 PM
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61. Tell that to Lee Harvey Oswald. /NT
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:54 PM
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10. Determined but disgusted
I suspect KKKarl is in for a shock, aka indictment

Sir you are not above the law...
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:56 PM
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11. He looks like he's on the way from an ass kicking contest. nt
:)
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:56 PM
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12. And that briefcase looks packed!
There's alot of stuff in there...Wonder what it is? :P
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:07 PM
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23. It's somebody's lard-laden ass.
Gonna be a bad day in Freeperville soon.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:09 PM
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26. Hehe
Probably important papers. Or maybe he has a kinky side. :shrug: ;) J/k.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:56 PM
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13. He looks like he is deep in thought
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:57 PM
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14. Aw
He's so sweet. *sigh*
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:59 PM
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17. He looks like
he needs to run home and clean the shit out of his ears.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:00 PM
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18. Two things strike me
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:02 PM by ewagner
One, I noticed a picture of him a few days ago where he very carefully tucked his nametag into his shirt pocket after leaving the court house. In the first pic it's still on the outside which means to me that he was distracted from putting it away.

Two, The look on his face tells me that he is in deep thought. Not confused. Not determined. Just thinking.

Because I enjoy a good mystery as much as anybody else, I'll add my pure speculation....

Fitz is wondering if the conspiracy doesn't go much, much farther than he ever imagined. If maybe the whole war was for some nefarious purpose....(hey Fitz..tune into DU...)He's wondering if he should extend the GJ to try to get to the bottom of the barrel of rotten apples.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:05 PM
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22. I agree - deep in thought
Contemplating his next step. HUGE responsibility.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:10 PM
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27. I hope he does
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:10 PM by FreedomAngel82
And yes. I noticed that too about the tag. :shrug: Maybe he doesn't like dangly stuff. Dunno. But he does look super serious and I bet his brain is running a thousand miles a minute. He probably has all sorts of plans and things like that running around in his head.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:11 PM
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28. That's it! I was trying to place it.
He is deep in thought. The badge thing is a good sign. I often do the same thing when I'm deep in thought, and go off to lunch with it hanging out.

He is connecting dots in his head, 24/7.

The weather is gloomy and ominous in DC today. I expect thunder and lightning when he finally releases the indictments. :nuke:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:10 PM
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72. Another DUer says it's a jump drive or something not a name tag
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 10:11 PM by cat_girl25
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:00 PM
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19. I don't like how he looks, markedly different from yesterday.
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:24 PM by cassiepriam
Looks disappointed almost angry, a bit confused, thoughtful in pic 1.
Looks like he is going to cry in pic 2. And his hand with fingers splayed over his heart. People can do that when they have heard bad news. Or he is feeling some pain.

Rove pics and pics of people behind him look smug, in another thread.
I hope to God I am wrong on my read of the pics.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:12 PM
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29. agree, the kind of body language
where he needs to cry to let emotions out. He has come up against some hardcore characters, not dumb mobsters, but smart Washington elitists that can play hardball.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:13 PM
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30. I'm sure he's used to playing hardball though
Who knows what information he has. What he has is enough to make any man cry I'm sure.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:13 PM
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31. I agree
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:15 PM
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32. I think Rove's smugness is a show, or self-deception
Fitzgerald... I think it's thoughtfulness. He may be trying to decide whether or not to extend the Grand Jury... whether or not he should offer some deals and if so, how much and to whom... or he may simply be thinking of the shit-storm that will start when the real prosecuting begins. He's planning, not giving up, IMHO.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:20 PM
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33. No, my read is not that Fitz has given up, but he is perplexed,
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:47 PM by cassiepriam
perhaps had a set back or he is having trouble connecting some dots.
He is sorting out where he goes from here, because things did not work out the way he thought from yesterday. His look is entirely different. Perhaps Rove threw out a real curve ball and hit Fitz hard.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:25 PM
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34. How about this?
"Do I have them completely buttoned up? Where are the loopholes they could skitter through? Is it watertight? If it's not, how do I seal all the exits? What other ways are there to read the facts? How will they try to spin the facts on the stand?"

I think it's more like that. Of course, you really can't tell, and we're all just projecting like crazy. Could be he's thinking "God that was a shitty burrito I just ate..."
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:29 PM
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38. The man is thinking deep thoughts. That's what he does.
He's a thinker. A puzzle solver. A strategist. A bulldog.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:44 PM
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43. Yes but a bit more than that. Some angst too. Something not
fitting the way he thought it would perhaps? Or going as planned.
There is upset with his thinking hard.

And pic 2, agh. I wish I had more pics to look at.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:57 PM
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54. LOL
Yeah. In the last picture for all we know he could have gas from that burrito.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:47 PM
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47. Maybe he's hungry and thinking about what
he wants for dinner? :shrug:

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:43 PM
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42. Excuse Me this man is ruthless when faced with Lying sac of poop
He Doesn't Cry!!! There is no Crying in Court!!! He has played with Mafia types This man Isn't going to CRY but Kick Butt!!!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:45 PM
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45. Hey He's Irish. We Irish feel things to our souls and can cry big time.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:50 PM
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49. true dat
We still kick butt, though, even with the tears running down our cheeks. :7
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:51 PM
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51. Oh that goes without saying! Cry and kick butt at the same time.
And say a Hail Mary while we do it.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:53 PM
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53. Don't read too much into ethnic surnames. "Fitz" is English naming too.
Don't place much faith in bloodlines. I doubt if you know his genealogy or what percentage of "Irish blood" he has. It is about as useless as astrology and so-called intelligent design.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:01 PM
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58. His parents were Irish immigrants to NYC
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 03:01 PM by Stephanie
Not that that has anything to do with his deep feelings or kicking ass, but he is in fact Irish-American.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:01 PM
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59. he is the son of irish immigrants
that is in his bio.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:12 PM
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63. Here's an article about his background >




Investigator of CIA leak seen as relentless
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-10-fitzgerald_x.htm



<snip>

Fitzgerald, 44, was born in Brooklyn. His Irish immigrant father, Patrick Sr., worked as a doorman at a building in Manhattan's Upper East Side. Fitzgerald went to Regis High School, a Jesuit preparatory school, then worked on its maintenance crew to pay his way through Amherst College. He majored in math and economics, then went to Harvard Law School.

He worked in a New York law firm before joining the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan in 1988. He stayed for 13 years, convicting Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and indicting bin Laden in a conspiracy that included the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

In Chicago, Fitzgerald has indicted two aides to Mayor Richard Daley on mail-fraud charges after an investigation into bribery and hiring abuses. Ryan is on trial on charges of racketeering conspiracy, mail and tax fraud and false statements during his terms as governor and Illinois secretary of State.

Dick Simpson, a former Chicago alderman who teaches political science at the University of Illinois-Chicago, says Fitzgerald is "almost universally admired ... for telling the truth and prosecuting these cases." He isn't suspected of political motives, Simpson says, because he came to Chicago with no ties to its top politicians and keeps a low profile. "He's doesn't do lunches at the important clubs or make rah-rah speeches," Simpson says.

Even lawyers who question Fitzgerald's tactics say they don't doubt his character. "Pat is driven by iron-tight integrity and a tireless work ethic," Mendeloff says.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:57 PM
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55. Aw
I love sensitive men.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:03 PM
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69. me too........
This guy is a real man....anyone know if he is married?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:07 PM
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71. Stand aside!
I saw him first!
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:18 PM
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73. Honey......
Sumpin tells me there's a line forming for that sweetie!;)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:25 PM
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74. LOL!
Yeah, Stephanie saw him first. :-)
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:59 PM
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57. hear hear
crying is just expression, not weakness. It is an overflowing of the emotions.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:49 PM
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48. It is never fun prosecuting a corrupt regime, however necessary it is
It is no fun to be more aware of the extent corruption at the heart of the U.S.A. government than any one else, except for the perpetrators. He may also be thinking of how the regime will lash out and hurt people when it is exposed. Unfortunately, there will also be some angry zealots who, no matter how many are indicted, will say it is not enough, but I'm sure he's not thinking of that at all.

It's kind of like cleaning up dog vomit. It's a dirty job and somebody's got to do it. Thank goodness for dedicated public servants like Fitzgerald.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:52 PM
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52. Agreed. For us, it's almost entertainment, but he's had to
wade chest-deep in the sordid details of the lying and the bullshit for two long years 24/7 in a way that we have not. He may derive grim satisfaction from prosecuting these bastards but that doesn't make it a happy task.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 03:02 PM
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60. It's a heavy weight on his shoulders
That's why he's not flippant like Rove walking out of there. He's serious, thoughtful, he's working while he walks.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:03 PM
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21. Could any deals have been cut today, or was it just testimony?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:27 PM
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35. I agree with the other posters, he looks determined
as he has in all his other pictures. I would not want to play poker with this guy, you can't read him at ALL. Four hours of Karl would also make anyone feal queasy, it certainly would me, lol.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:28 PM
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37. sorry, but he doesn't look happy at all. He lookes shell shocked to me
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:30 PM
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39. So would you if you were about to bring down a corrupt govt
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:45 PM
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46. He's thinking how he is going to Barbecue Rove or rotisserie rise him
this man is gonna cook Rove's butt!!!
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:36 PM
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40. He looks like he's channeling Eliot Ness
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:38 PM by GliderGuider
on edit: better quip...
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:19 PM
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64. He does have an Aura around him!!! He's untouchable alright!!!
:bounce: He's whispering to Fitz " the Bigger they are the harder they fall!!!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:44 PM
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44. Y'all are funny. Some of these posts are like hearing someone read
a palm.

My take - Rove is used to being in front of the camera, Fitz isn't.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:50 PM
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50. That's true - Rove is playing to the cameras
Fitz is just walking back to the office. Not interested in posing for reporters. No interest in celebrity, or spin.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:57 PM
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56. probably not even aware that his picture was taken. n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:51 PM
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66. funny - now we have a quote for him and that's all he says
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 08:51 PM by Stephanie
"going back to the office" - the man works hard. Bush is on vacation again.

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:55 PM
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68. Very tired from long, long days and nights at work. (eom)
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